Battlefield 3 Patch out now

Looking over the changelog, I was excited for this day to come. How do you guys feel about the changes?

Unfortunately, I'm really disappointed. I can't even tell what the changes are because the hit detection was awful for me and I actually couldn't stand the game for more than 5 minutes at a time because of it. This is coming from an everyday player (and avid battlefield fan), so inb4trollaccusations. On a brighter note, I do anticipate Armored Kill and will probably just stick to vehicles from now on until hit detection is actually bearable.

The hit detection is actually fine once you get your network smoothing settings correct and play on servers within your area. While it can be a little laggy, it completely ruining the game for people doesn't make sense to me at all.

The changes were pure balancing changes, since I don't really get into BF3 that competitivly I don't really care.

At this point, if you're letting the hit detection ruin your experiance (which it's still better than in BC2 and BF2), then you're doing something wrong on your end. It's really that simple.

I can't wait to get my hands on Premium. Armored Kill maps and vehicles look awesome.

Ah, this will fix those silly looking slow moving jets. Oh, wait...

Ah, this will fix those silly looking slow moving jets. Oh, wait...

Starshine_M2A2

Yeah so they can streak across the level in 2 seconds and completely dominate everything on the battlefield without any counters?

The jets didn't make sense in BF2 and they sure as hell don't in BF3. The maps need to be 500+ KMs large for them to make any sense. Otherwise they are going to be extremely gamey no matter what.

The hit detection is actually fine once you get your network smoothing settings correct and play on servers within your area. While it can be a little laggy, it completely ruining the game for people doesn't make sense to me at all.

The changes were pure balancing changes, since I don't really get into BF3 that competitivly I don't really care.

At this point, if you're letting the hit detection ruin your experiance (which it's still better than in BC2 and BF2), then you're doing something wrong on your end. It's really that simple.

Wasdie

What are the ideal network smoothing settings? I still get shot behind walls

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The hit detection is actually fine once you get your network smoothing settings correct and play on servers within your area. While it can be a little laggy, it completely ruining the game for people doesn't make sense to me at all.

The changes were pure balancing changes, since I don't really get into BF3 that competitivly I don't really care.

At this point, if you're letting the hit detection ruin your experiance (which it's still better than in BC2 and BF2), then you're doing something wrong on your end. It's really that simple.

lostrib

What are the ideal network smoothing settings? I still get shot behind walls

They are different for every person. You gotta keep tweaking them.

You'll always get killed a little behind a wall. No match is going to be 100% flawless, way too many factors. The game has too much going on to have Quake and CS like latency.

If you're letting that get in your way, then you'll be disappointed.

CS, Quake, Unreal, all have about 1/100th of the calculations going on. CS uses 100% hitscan weapons and all of the rapid fire weapons in Quake/Unreal are hitscan as well, unlike having each round tracked in real time like in BF3. There is also no destruction and very little calculations to do with vehicles in those arena shooters. The animations are also extremely simple compared to BF3.

It's just never going to be perfect.

I haven't been able to tell for sure yet, is the UMP-45 a 3 shot kill or not? The M5K is like a whole new weapon though (It's a CQB BEAST now!)

I haven't been able to tell for sure yet, is the UMP-45 a 3 shot kill or not? The M5K is like a whole new weapon though (It's a CQB BEAST now!)

DoomZaW

I think it is at close range. They buffed the close range damage but I think it drops off faster

I wish they would make a patch to make the shooting more like Bad Company 2. I think I would actually play the game a lot more if that happended.

The hit detection is actually fine once you get your network smoothing settings correct and play on servers within your area. While it can be a little laggy, it completely ruining the game for people doesn't make sense to me at all.

The changes were pure balancing changes, since I don't really get into BF3 that competitivly I don't really care.

At this point, if you're letting the hit detection ruin your experiance (which it's still better than in BC2 and BF2), then you're doing something wrong on your end. It's really that simple.

Wasdie

Heck no, go play 64 player CQ. I dare ya.

The game just recently had an overhaul for "balancing" weapons like m16 are nerfed and so on. Though the glitches are still apparent, kind of sad that is not higher up in their priority.

Did they finally fix the stringers against air not working properly? I kinda quit a while ago.bonafidetk

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]Did they finally fix the stringers against air not working properly? I kinda quit a while ago.Wasdie

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

People are still playing BF3? Wow, that's.... dedication.SKaREO

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[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]Did they finally fix the stringers against air not working properly? I kinda quit a while ago.SKaREO

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

That was a very dickish comment to write.

At this point, if you're letting the hit detection ruin your experiance (which it's still better than in BC2 and BF2), then you're doing something wrong on your end. It's really that simple.Wasdie

I don't think they're mad because you're better than them. Not exactly glorious to point a lock-on weapon at a skilled pilot and click the "I WIN" button. Sounds like you enjoy reading people's complaints. Explains why you wanted to be a mod too, because you like the feeling of superiority where it isn't earned, and you like to deal with other's complaints in a callous way. Sounds like schadenfreude to me.SKaREO

Contact me directly if you wish to schedule an appointment with this years finest psychoanalysis. Free lollipops with every visit!

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]Did they finally fix the stringers against air not working properly? I kinda quit a while ago.SKaREO

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

So... let me get this straight, you're better than me because you're pull crap out of your ass then attacking me for it?

Is that the general idea you're trying to convey here?

Great the patch broke the game. I can't even play anymore, and on a side note the low level nubs are frying me with their MGs lammmeee. Getting 2:1 kd games is pure suckage :\

The hit detection is actually fine once you get your network smoothing settings correct and play on servers within your area. While it can be a little laggy, it completely ruining the game for people doesn't make sense to me at all.

The changes were pure balancing changes, since I don't really get into BF3 that competitivly I don't really care.

At this point, if you're letting the hit detection ruin your experiance (which it's still better than in BC2 and BF2), then you're doing something wrong on your end. It's really that simple.

Wasdie

The hit detection in BF3 and BF games has always been badddddddddddd.

Games based on Carmack's engines usually have amazing hit detection, like CS 1.6 and Quake 3. Where say Source games have always been bad like TF2 and CS:GO.

Just hate BF3 where if someone is running then aim behind them because that's where their hit box will be.

[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]Did they finally fix the stringers against air not working properly? I kinda quit a while ago.Wasdie

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

Anyone have any tips on adjusting the network smoothing factor? My ping is always around 24ms but the ragdolls are like watching a slideshow, everything else is smooth. I have fiddled with it and it's better but still not great.

[QUOTE="SKaREO"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

Wasdie

So... let me get this straight, you're better than me because you're pull crap out of your ass then attacking me for it?

Is that the general idea you're trying to convey here?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="SKaREO"] I don't think they're mad because you're better than them. Not exactly glorious to point a lock-on weapon at a skilled pilot and click the "I WIN" button. Sounds like you enjoy reading people's complaints. Explains why you wanted to be a mod too, because you like the feeling of superiority where it isn't earned, and you like to deal with other's complaints in a callous way. Sounds like schadenfreude to me.trastamad03

So... let me get this straight, you're better than me because you're pull crap out of your ass then attacking me for it?

Is that the general idea you're trying to convey here?

Well, voicing your viewpoints, and disagreeing should never be a reason for a ban. Altho that sentence up there is pretty much bordering on a warning atleast, going out against specific people bcause you do not agree with them while not making any constructive reflections is a pretty low thing to do. But hey doing it against a mod? maybe he himself is asking for a ban? :S

Is there a problem with the new patch? Did it make hit detection worse or is it just how it was before?Gamesterpheonix

Not really. I actually felt that everything was a bit smoother. The UI looked crisper, the game had a better response time, the animations were much better in sync.

The "issue" with the patch is the helis and how they got a pretty big nerf. I actually shot one down with a stinger yesterday. It was quite amazing.

[QUOTE="SKaREO"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yes. Lots of rage from the pilots. Glorious rage.

Wasdie

So... let me get this straight, you're better than me because you're pull crap out of your ass then attacking me for it?

Is that the general idea you're trying to convey here?

People are still playing BF3? Wow, that's.... dedication.SKaREO

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="SKaREO"] I don't think they're mad because you're better than them. Not exactly glorious to point a lock-on weapon at a skilled pilot and click the "I WIN" button. Sounds like you enjoy reading people's complaints. Explains why you wanted to be a mod too, because you like the feeling of superiority where it isn't earned, and you like to deal with other's complaints in a callous way. Sounds like schadenfreude to me.SKaREO

So... let me get this straight, you're better than me because you're pull crap out of your ass then attacking me for it?

Is that the general idea you're trying to convey here?

damn i havent played bf3 since the start if summer but i wont play until armored kill comes out so i cant play both map packs for the first time at once

Did they add offline bot matches?

Did they add offline bot matches?

xLittlekillx

No. Not happening. Never will. Stop asking. Just give up on the series.

[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Is there a problem with the new patch? Did it make hit detection worse or is it just how it was before?Wasdie

Not really. I actually felt that everything was a bit smoother. The UI looked crisper, the game had a better response time, the animations were much better in sync.

The "issue" with the patch is the helis and how they got a pretty big nerf. I actually shot one down with a stinger yesterday. It was quite amazing.

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

Did they add offline bot matches?

Wasdie

No. Not happening. Never will. Stop asking. Just give up on the series.

Never!

damn i havent played bf3 since the start if summer but i wont play until armored kill comes out so i cant play both map packs for the first time at once

G-O-A-T

Why is it that every time I update I can't run BF3? 'The game must be installed', it is **** installed!couly

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[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Is there a problem with the new patch? Did it make hit detection worse or is it just how it was before?Gamesterpheonix

Not really. I actually felt that everything was a bit smoother. The UI looked crisper, the game had a better response time, the animations were much better in sync.

The "issue" with the patch is the helis and how they got a pretty big nerf. I actually shot one down with a stinger yesterday. It was quite amazing.

What I noticed is that heli pilots and jet pilots don't pop their flares soon enough. They got used to the flares having an instant effect. Really they need to pop the flares either the second the missile is launched, or if a lock has been sustained for awhile and then they need to bolt out of there.

People will adjust.

I was playing a bit the game the last week the game in my new rig until my GTX 690 failed (again) and I was forced to call for a RMA. I didn't like BF3 at all but is still better than the other competitive fps; sadly overheating in the GPU is making muy progress towards rank 45 a bit slower, but I have plans to reach it and maybe even buying the premium map pack if my graphic card finally stops annoying my gaming sessions.