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2 year release cycle. It could had been BC3 or BF 2143 instead.:([QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="KABCOOL"]
BF4 already? Seems like BF3 just came out not to long ago.
mitu123
Or, better yet, Bad Company 2143.
It could had been BC3 or BF 2143 instead.:([QUOTE="mitu123"]
[QUOTE="Jebus213"] 2 year release cycle. Phoenix534
Or, better yet, Bad Company 2143.
It would probably only be a sequel to 2142 in theme and not in design(the maps, the nature of infantry combat, gunships, APCs firing launch pods containing infantry onto enemy Titan ships, etc.) in which case I'd only want 2143 for the fact that there would be more flexibility for what technology different factions could use.Its too early for BF4 :)
BF3 is currently my most played game (online), just got last week the CQ pack..
Eh, too early. Should be more of a four year cycle thing. In the meantime, they should release more DLC for BF3 for the next few years.
There's going to be a new BF game every two years. There's going to be a new MoH every two years. BF4 next year then another MoH after that. That's how EA has the cycle of milkage set up. So no it isn't early. It's pretty much on time. The next BF game should be officially announced sometime close before, during, or after MoH:WF's release date.Eh, too early. Should be more of a four year cycle thing. In the meantime, they should release more DLC for BF3 for the next few years.
The_Capitalist
2 year release cycle. It could had been BC3 or BF 2143 instead.:([QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="KABCOOL"]
BF4 already? Seems like BF3 just came out not to long ago.
mitu123
This might just be a placeholder as it was never meant to be put on origin. I'm thinking BC3 or 2143.
as a die hard battlefield fan, i do not approve of this. especially so soon.yellosnolvr
So, you wouldn't approve of any Battlefield games since 2005, considering there has been one made by the same teams every year since Vietnam and DLC content inbetween. Just because they didn't work on a PC version of Bad Comapny and BF1943, doesn't mean they set aside developers to work on the PC version of BF3 for all of those years.
Remember, just because they didn't appear on the PC doesn't mean the team hasn't been putting out yearly release and/or content since 2004. I didn't even mention the DLC for BF2 or BF3. It doesn't matter the label they decide to name their game either. They also sqeezed in Mirror's Edge in 2008.
I don't know how you can be disappointed. This is how DICE operates and has operated since pretty much BF1942.
This is what gaming is now and I like it. No more waiting for 3-4 years for another one, always more content to play. Games only truely had the replayablity that they used to have when we didn't have a new game every few weeks to play. Now we get a game worthy of our time coming out at least monthly. Why keep going back to the old when we constantly have new stuff to play? That, and I finally have a job and money where I can afford more games than when I was a kid, I don't have to milk a game for every ounce of gameplay I can sqeeze out of it.
[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]There's going to be a new BF game every two years. There's going to be a new MoH every two years. BF4 next year then another MoH after that. That's how EA has the cycle of milkage set up. So no it isn't early. It's pretty much on time. The next BF game should be officially announced sometime close before, during, or after MoH:WF's release date. Ea is a corperation, they never try things that failed in the past . In the past moh had annual releases just like cod but failed so they stopped. Now its 2 year releases... on 2 military fps.Eh, too early. Should be more of a four year cycle thing. In the meantime, they should release more DLC for BF3 for the next few years.
Jebus213
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]There's going to be a new BF game every two years. There's going to be a new MoH every two years. BF4 next year then another MoH after that. That's how EA has the cycle of milkage set up. So no it isn't early. It's pretty much on time. The next BF game should be officially announced sometime close before, during, or after MoH:WF's release date. Ea is a corperation, they never try things that failed in the past . In the past moh had annual releases just like cod but failed so they stopped. Now its 2 year releases... on 2 military fps.Eh, too early. Should be more of a four year cycle thing. In the meantime, they should release more DLC for BF3 for the next few years.
dakan45
To be fair, MoH and BF have some major differences. They are both military shooters, but their focus on two completely different styles of shooting and gameplay aimed at two very different audiences. Even with BF3's CQ pack, it's still caters to the big maps and vehicles much more. Next month we get the Armored Kill as well which has 4 very large maps that's the complete opposite of the CQ pack.
CoD, on the other hand, has been more or less the exact same formula since 2007.
Hopefully this is a real return to roots. Im fed up with DICE and their COD chasing. -ArchAngeL-777-
If it is scheduled for late 2013, it will probably appear on the next gen consoles which means they won't have to limit the game to 24 players as the hardware will be much better in the consoles.
I also don't agree with the notion that they are "CoD" chasing. In some aspects, the core gameplay of BF3 is actually more team oriented than BF2 was (no more AI driven artillery, UAV scans have to be done manually). Though it sorely lacked in communication and the game was clearly designed for 24 players. The CQ DLC pack is being offset by the Armored Kill DLC pack that is being released in September. There are much improved features from BF2 in BF3 (like the core shooting mechanics) that I guess you could call "CoD chasing".
If they are going to bump the numbers to 64 across all platforms, they'll have to re-implement features from BF2 like the 6 man squads and squad-leader spawning and they won't be able tomake maps filled with tons of chokepoints and are suited for 24 players.
Ea is a corperation, they never try things that failed in the past . In the past moh had annual releases just like cod but failed so they stopped. Now its 2 year releases... on 2 military fps.[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] There's going to be a new BF game every two years. There's going to be a new MoH every two years. BF4 next year then another MoH after that. That's how EA has the cycle of milkage set up. So no it isn't early. It's pretty much on time. The next BF game should be officially announced sometime close before, during, or after MoH:WF's release date.Wasdie
To be fair, MoH and BF have some major differences. They are both military shooters, but their focus on two completely different styles of shooting and gameplay aimed at two very different audiences. Even with BF3's CQ pack, it's still caters to the big maps and vehicles much more. Next month we get the Armored Kill as well which has 4 very large maps that's the complete opposite of the CQ pack.
CoD, on the other hand, has been more or less the exact same formula since 2007.
Their singleplayer campaigns are made to catch some of cod's sucess and the multiplayer is arguably changed to cater cod players. What i am saying basicly comes down to this, bad company 1, open ended singleplayer. medal of honor airborne, also nonlinear. Frontlines, the same. The sequels of those games however. Its just that the industry copies cod so much instead of doing their on thing. As for me, gotham city imposters, better than both of em.Ea is a corperation, they never try things that failed in the past . In the past moh had annual releases just like cod but failed so they stopped. Now its 2 year releases... on 2 military fps.[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] There's going to be a new BF game every two years. There's going to be a new MoH every two years. BF4 next year then another MoH after that. That's how EA has the cycle of milkage set up. So no it isn't early. It's pretty much on time. The next BF game should be officially announced sometime close before, during, or after MoH:WF's release date.Wasdie
To be fair, MoH and BF have some major differences. They are both military shooters, but their focus on two completely different styles of shooting and gameplay aimed at two very different audiences. Even with BF3's CQ pack, it's still caters to the big maps and vehicles much more. Next month we get the Armored Kill as well which has 4 very large maps that's the complete opposite of the CQ pack.
CoD, on the other hand, has been more or less the exact same formula since 2007.
There SP's have the exact same focus. That's for sure....There SP's have the exact same focus. That's for sure....Jebus213
That I won't disagree with. From reading the reviews and what people thought of it, I would say the majority of people were very disappointed by BF3's single player for that exact reason.
They did it really well in BC1. It had a slightly open feel despite being linear. It felt more like a Battlefield game during its single player unlike BC2 and BF3 did.
[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Hopefully this is a real return to roots. Im fed up with DICE and their COD chasing. Wasdie
If it is scheduled for late 2013, it will probably appear on the next gen consoles which means they won't have to limit the game to 24 players as the hardware will be much better in the consoles.
I also don't agree with the notion that they are "CoD" chasing. In some aspects, the core gameplay of BF3 is actually more team oriented than BF2 was (no more AI driven artillery, UAV scans have to be done manually). Though it sorely lacked in communication and the game was clearly designed for 24 players. The CQ DLC pack is being offset by the Armored Kill DLC pack that is being released in September. There are much improved features from BF2 in BF3 (like the core shooting mechanics) that I guess you could call "CoD chasing".
If they are going to bump the numbers to 64 across all platforms, they'll have to re-implement features from BF2 like the 6 man squads and squad-leader spawning and they won't be able tomake maps filled with tons of chokepoints and are suited for 24 players.
Somewhat but it has much more cod like stuff, than bc2 did. I would love to see a jump in player count. Its been proven possible by reality and the hacked servers during the beta.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"]There SP's have the exact same focus. That's for sure....Wasdie
That I won't disagree with. From reading the reviews and what people thought of it, I would say the majority of people were very disappointed by BF3's single player for that exact reason.
They did it really well in BC1. It had a slightly open feel despite being linear. It felt more like a Battlefield game during its single player unlike BC2 and BF3 did.
A BC1 style campaign will never happen again. Why? The target audience want's "press X to win". Sandboxish games are too hardcore and boring according to the developers telemetry. The average bro gamer can't handle 20 seconds of no repetitive non-stop action. You need a generic plot with piss poor set pieces to make it in the modern military shooter world. Teh evil Russians and middle eastern terrorists are required no matter what. We must stop all gameplay for 2-4 scripted events in every level. Just wait, we're going to be invading Syria in an upcoming shooter soon.[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]as a die hard battlefield fan, i do not approve of this. especially so soon.Wasdie
So, you wouldn't approve of any Battlefield games since 2005, considering there has been one made by the same teams every year since Vietnam and DLC content inbetween. Just because they didn't work on a PC version of Bad Comapny and BF1943, doesn't mean they set aside developers to work on the PC version of BF3 for all of those years.
Remember, just because they didn't appear on the PC doesn't mean the team hasn't been putting out yearly release and/or content since 2004. I didn't even mention the DLC for BF2 or BF3. It doesn't matter the label they decide to name their game either. They also sqeezed in Mirror's Edge in 2008.
I don't know how you can be disappointed. This is how DICE operates and has operated since pretty much BF1942.
This is what gaming is now and I like it. No more waiting for 3-4 years for another one, always more content to play. Games only truely had the replayablity that they used to have when we didn't have a new game every few weeks to play. Now we get a game worthy of our time coming out at least monthly. Why keep going back to the old when we constantly have new stuff to play? That, and I finally have a job and money where I can afford more games than when I was a kid, I don't have to milk a game for every ounce of gameplay I can sqeeze out of it.
i wasn't really referring to the release date; i actually enjoy the fact its being released in 2013. i just think its a little too early to talk about it when it feels like bf3 hasn't fully matured and the fact that bf3 needs many things patched, but they rather go on developing a new title instead of supporting one that isn't even a year old (and that has 15 million+ sales). if they rolled out more patches, i'd feel a lot differently. they insisted mandatory origin support for the ability to patch whenever they could (in addition to making more money off of it), but this game has been patched 4 or 5 times since release, none of them being extremely effective on fixing bugs and other problems. don't get me wrong. i truly enjoy battlefield 3 - in fact, i have the game running as i type this - but they need more post-release support on a game this big. bf2 and 2142 definitely had their problems, too, but those didn't stop me from playing all day everyday because the standards battlefield has to meet weren't nearly as high as they are now, with EA/DICE aiming to take call of duty down. anyways. i have high hopes for battlefield 4. as long as the whole class-based and teamwork-oriented formula as well as the diverse combat make a return, i should be happy. i dont have a particular wishlist for the game, but all i really want out of the next battlefield is that it isn't modern. a return to the future would be amazing on the frostbite 2 engine.[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]There SP's have the exact same focus. That's for sure....Jebus213
That I won't disagree with. From reading the reviews and what people thought of it, I would say the majority of people were very disappointed by BF3's single player for that exact reason.
They did it really well in BC1. It had a slightly open feel despite being linear. It felt more like a Battlefield game during its single player unlike BC2 and BF3 did.
A BC1 style campaign will never happen again. Why? The target audience want's "press X to win". Sandboxish games are too hardcore and boring according to the developers telemetry. The average bro gamer can't handle 20 seconds of no repetitive non-stop action. You need a generic plot with piss poor set pieces to make it in the modern military shooter world. Teh evil Russians and middle eastern terrorists are required no matter what. We must stop all gameplay for 2-4 scripted events in every level. Just wait, we're going to be invading Syria in an upcoming shooter soon. I still think thi is WRONG and that game studios are just wrong, they think thats the case, but no, they have been obvious issues in the previous games that lead to them being inferior. I think the problem is that just because cod is linear, everyone thinks that has to go that way. To which i point out, assasin creed and skyrim and borderlands. Or even more into topic, black ops. it had a helicopter that you could fly, pretty simplistic but better tham moh and bf3 that had only shooting from pilots view. If cod can go more nonlinear, things might open up since everyone is copying the, Black ops 2 will have nonlinear missions and sandboxy strike force missions. I just cant get why they think sp has to be done very simplisticated and specific on your goals and options. If mp has choices and so does spec ops, then why not sp? I think thats the issue here, everyone copies cod way of doing sp without ever thinking that mp might be the part that most people focus. Its easier to do a linear game with solid mechanics than an open world with bad mechanics and repetition, thats why most open world gmaes failed in favor of linear ones, also the main story campaign was not as impressive and captivating, mainly due to action like you said.[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]as a die hard battlefield fan, i do not approve of this. especially so soon.Wasdie
So, you wouldn't approve of any Battlefield games since 2005, considering there has been one made by the same teams every year since Vietnam and DLC content inbetween. Just because they didn't work on a PC version of Bad Comapny and BF1943, doesn't mean they set aside developers to work on the PC version of BF3 for all of those years.
Remember, just because they didn't appear on the PC doesn't mean the team hasn't been putting out yearly release and/or content since 2004. I didn't even mention the DLC for BF2 or BF3. It doesn't matter the label they decide to name their game either. They also sqeezed in Mirror's Edge in 2008.
I don't know how you can be disappointed. This is how DICE operates and has operated since pretty much BF1942.
This is what gaming is now and I like it. No more waiting for 3-4 years for another one, always more content to play. Games only truely had the replayablity that they used to have when we didn't have a new game every few weeks to play. Now we get a game worthy of our time coming out at least monthly. Why keep going back to the old when we constantly have new stuff to play? That, and I finally have a job and money where I can afford more games than when I was a kid, I don't have to milk a game for every ounce of gameplay I can sqeeze out of it.
You are one delusional fellow. Happy to see you like spending your money on poorly constructed military shooters that were made for the purpose of suckering people like you into believing they are worthy of a full-price purchase. Now we know who has been funding this mentality in the industry as of late. Thanks bud.
Hopefully this is a real return to roots. Im fed up with DICE and their COD chasing. -ArchAngeL-777-With CQ DLC, sure, but on the PC version that also grabbed CSS players as well. The next DLC seems a bit different though: http://blogscdn.battlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BF3_AK_BandarDesert_07.jpghttp://blogscdn.battlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BF3_AK_BandarDesert_05.jpg If you don't enjoy playing something, then look for something else to play, it's that simple, nobody is forcing you to buy or play anything.
If they were to make a Bad Company 3, how would they change it to make it different from BF3 to warrant the name Bad Company? BF3 already seems like the next evolution of the BC franchise. If they had named BF3 BC3 I don't think anyone would of questioned DICE about it.
[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Hopefully this is a real return to roots. Im fed up with DICE and their COD chasing. ZubinenWith CQ DLC, sure, but on the PC version that also grabbed CSS players as well. The next DLC seems a bit different though: http://blogscdn.battlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BF3_AK_BandarDesert_07.jpghttp://blogscdn.battlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BF3_AK_BandarDesert_05.jpg If you don't enjoy playing something, then look for something else to play, it's that simple, nobody is forcing you to buy or play anything. You bet I found something else. Look this isnt some new title they came along with, so spare everyone the "no one's forcing you to play" rhetoric. This was billed as a sequel to BF2. That's what I thought I was buying, and its not even in the same area code. If you think so, you need to go back and play some BF2 or even 2142. You'll quickly realize how much they softened the series up for this game. "Above and Beyond the Call"...does that line ring a bell? Its DICE's marketing pitch for BF3. They have COD on the brain, and every move they make is affected by it.
[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Hopefully this is a real return to roots. Im fed up with DICE and their COD chasing. Wasdie
If it is scheduled for late 2013, it will probably appear on the next gen consoles which means they won't have to limit the game to 24 players as the hardware will be much better in the consoles.
I also don't agree with the notion that they are "CoD" chasing. In some aspects, the core gameplay of BF3 is actually more team oriented than BF2 was (no more AI driven artillery, UAV scans have to be done manually). Though it sorely lacked in communication and the game was clearly designed for 24 players. The CQ DLC pack is being offset by the Armored Kill DLC pack that is being released in September. There are much improved features from BF2 in BF3 (like the core shooting mechanics) that I guess you could call "CoD chasing".
If they are going to bump the numbers to 64 across all platforms, they'll have to re-implement features from BF2 like the 6 man squads and squad-leader spawning and they won't be able tomake maps filled with tons of chokepoints and are suited for 24 players.
"Above and Beyond the Call" :lol: That should tell you all you need to know about DICE's focus for the Battlefield series. I'll take the weapons over BF2 which isnt saying a whole lot since BF2 hit detection was legendary awful. The cleaned that up a lot for 2142 actually which had some solid hit detection. I heavily disagree with the idea that BF3 is more team oriented. Half the people dont even know how to squad up. Even when they do, they mostly run around like they are in a COD match. There is almost no mechanism to coordinate the squad and people rarely use what is there. The BF2/2142 command structure is a lot better for that. Even if you didnt have a commander worth a grain of salt, you usually had squad leaders that were good at vectoring the squad appropriately. Plus 2142, like MAG, offered teamwork incentives to be at the objective. They definitely need to re-implement features for 64 players. They need to do something that will aid squad cohesion which right now is barely existing in BF3. Everyone is more interested in their stats than teamwork.This is what I am talking about. What makes Bad Company 3 any different from Battlefield 4. Either DICE/EA has decided that Battlelog is a bad idea or it will be in all future games.Bad Company 3: I'm interested in.
Battlefield 2143: sort of want.
Battlefield 4: I don't care a s***, specailly if uses battlelog. I didn't buy the Karkand Pack for BF3 and don't mind to spent a cent in the other 3 map packs.
Ondoval
In BC2 armor strictly plays a supporting role, no jets and helicopters are much easier to harass, maps focused around rush mode, and a big thing is that the class with medkits + defibs does not get the most accurate + lowest TTK automatic weapons. Look up competitive infantry matches for BC2 and then look up competitive infantry matches for BF3, it's like night and day. [QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"] You bet I found something else. Look this isnt some new title they came along with, so spare everyone the "no one's forcing you to play" rhetoric. This was billed as a sequel to BF2. That's what I thought I was buying, and its not even in the same area code. If you think so, you need to go back and play some BF2 or even 2142. You'll quickly realize how much they softened the series up for this game. "Above and Beyond the Call"...does that line ring a bell? Its DICE's marketing pitch for BF3. They have COD on the brain, and every move they make is affected by it. It seems more like people with CODphobia have COD on the brain more so than DICE. BF2 game balance is awful, 2142 I actually wouldn't mind seeing literally ported to the Frostbite 2.0 engine or perhaps a re-release for like console gamers had with 1943. I much prefer BF3 over BF2 almost entirely(BF3 flight was inferior until the 1.04 patch which put it not only on par but above BF2 flight in terms of 1 v 1 dogfighting), 2142 I did like better in some ways for how it handled infantry which is why I'd like to see it in the FB 2.0 engine, I'd love to see a game with BF3 mechanics + BF 2142 design.If they were to make a Bad Company 3, how would they change it to make it different from BF3 to warrant the name Bad Company? BF3 already seems like the next evolution of the BC franchise. If they had named BF3 BC3 I don't think anyone would of questioned DICE about it.
MacBoomStick
I know already how it's going to be. It's going to be extremely flawed, console oriented, alot of wasted potential will be present, and I will criticize it at message boards all the effing time, but I will still buy a new GPU for it and spent over 100 hours in it. It's sorta like Pokemon at this point, I know I shouldn't be supporting this dev/publisher for not innovating and not supporting, but I can't imagine NOT buying it because the game is so much fun, despite the flaws.
Kinda wish they would just spend time fixing BF3 and releasing more maps. And removing that Blue tint that I still dont know why they added. Alpha looked 100 times better.
Yeah, does anyone know when Battlefield 3 is going to be out of Beta? I reinstalled it yesterday but it still plays like a pig and the alpha was much much better. Hit detection in Battlefied is the worst I've ever seen before in any shooter, even War Rock.Kinda wish they would just spend time fixing BF3 and releasing more maps. And removing that Blue tint that I still dont know why they added. Alpha looked 100 times better.
SaviorXavi3r
[QUOTE="SaviorXavi3r"]Yeah, does anyone know when Battlefield 3 is going to be out of Beta? I reinstalled it yesterday but it still plays like a pig and the alpha was much much better. Hit detection in Battlefied is the worst I've ever seen before in any shooter, even War Rock.Kinda wish they would just spend time fixing BF3 and releasing more maps. And removing that Blue tint that I still dont know why they added. Alpha looked 100 times better.
SKaREO
It's been 6 months. Beating that dead horse over and over makes you look like a fool.
They trying to sell me DLC fo BF3, probably shouldn't mention BF4 beta is only a year away. Fail business model is fail.SKaREOYeah, because the beta = full game release.
[QUOTE="SKaREO"]They trying to sell me DLC fo BF3, probably shouldn't mention BF4 beta is only a year away. Fail business model is fail.kris9031998Yeah, because the beta = full game release. Apparently, haven't you played BF3? It's still in Beta and people are paying an additional $50 for "Premium" DLC content (or lack of content if you want to be precise.) No VOIP for PC, no Battle Recorder, nothing that the community asked DICE to provide. Thanks to the bottom feeding cheaters of the gaming community who want a "fast track to the unlocks and early access to betas" there is little hope that games will ever be released complete and without multiple day 1 DLC's to purchase before you even get a full game. Anyway, if you like being crapped all over by a giant corporation, have at it. But if you have any common sense and decency, you'll avoid giving EA any more money for their garbage games. Now BF4 is announced while BF3 is still a bugged piece of crap. All the pay to win scrubs are going to eat it up while legit gamers will just move on and find something worth playing.
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