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#1 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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You might want to keep track of forums for when ID gets this game patched first. It's pretty buggy right now and the texture pop-in makes it unplayable for me. There are reports of CTDs too, but I haven't personally experienced that. To compound this, there are no graphical options to change the quality.

I have a Q6600, 4GB of ram, and a 460GTX Hawk Talon Attack so I should be breezing through the game.

Take a look at these screens to show the texture pop in from just turning a little. The second screen was after a little less than a 10 degree turn. The third was more like 180. Watch the counter to the right.

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video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I91AG2BhcI

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#3 Elann2008
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Yeah, canceled my pre-order several days ago. I saw this coming after I read interviews and auto-detect graphics sealed the deal for me. My major concern is the texture-streaming. I'll buy it but not until it's patched.

It's really too bad because I want this game, so bad... hehe

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#4 C_Rule
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Wow, what a mess. And no graphical options? Shame.
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#5 spittis
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Really sad that a developer I think many PC gamers "trust" would have a launch like this...on a game that has been in developement for so long :/
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#6 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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Wow, what a mess. And no graphical options? Shame.C_Rule
The only ones are resolution, AA, and brightness. No texture quality switching or anything.
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#7 mitu123
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]Wow, what a mess. And no graphical options? Shame.guynamedbilly
The only ones are resolution, AA, and brightness. No texture quality switching or anything.

Coming from ID that doesn't make sense of them to do that.

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#8 John_Read
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inspite of such long development time and programming god carmack ID failed badly
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#9 C_Rule
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I don't understand how they would have missed this, during testing. They must have known it was there, and were just too lazy to fix it.
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#10 GeneralShowzer
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Locked FOV of 60 and Mouse Acceleration..

id game

WTF man...

inspite of such long development time and programming god carmack ID failed badly John_Read
They are a small team and they didn't fail, it's really something for consoles.

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#11 mitu123
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60 FOV is low, would prefer 90 at least.

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#12 Elann2008
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Locked FOV of 60 and Mouse Acceleration..

id game

WTF man...[QUOTE="John_Read"]inspite of such long development time and programming god carmack ID failed badly GeneralShowzer

They are a small team and they didn't fail, it's really something for consoles.

Yeah, wtf... thanks for the heads up... now i feel worse about it. See, I don't know if FOV 60 will make me nauseous or not. And being able to change it means, from unplayable to playable for some people. Also, change FOV to 80 really gives you a nice view and angle of scenery.. and that would have made the experience so much better for this kind of game. Damn.. and I really hate mouse acceleration. Mouse acceleration for a first-person shooter? Damn..
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#13 Jane_22
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Why i have the feeling that we will have the patch when no one will care anymore....

Like it happend with Crysis 2.........

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#14 John_Read
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Locked FOV of 60 and Mouse Acceleration..

id game

WTF man...[QUOTE="John_Read"]inspite of such long development time and programming god carmack ID failed badly GeneralShowzer

They are a small team and they didn't fail, it's really something for consoles.

u expect such thing from carmack ?
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#15 sleepingzzz
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That's such a bummer. Was hoping this game would be good. Looks like the reviews are saying the game is just average. Combine that with the bugs for PC and that = a no buy for me.

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Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess.
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Locked FOV of 60 and Mouse Acceleration..

id game

WTF man...[QUOTE="John_Read"]inspite of such long development time and programming god carmack ID failed badly GeneralShowzer

They are a small team and they didn't fail, it's really something for consoles.

I think I'll never understand why developers keep using mouse acceleration...

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#18 Lox_Cropek
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Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. nutcrackr
Because of the texture loading or do you have other problems with it?

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#19 Gamemovies
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Well im sure they patch it so its still a instant buy for me!
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. Lox_Cropek

Because of the texture loading or do you have other problems with it?

Framerate problems like the game dropping to 20fps when I just move around. Enemies and buggies flashing (going invisible, and lots of corruption type stuff where the environments flash. The texture pop-in is the least of my worries but obviously looks bad. Btw this is with an Radeon card, I don't think the nVidia cards have these problems. If you have ATI though do not buy this game.
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. Lox_Cropek

Because of the texture loading or do you have other problems with it?

The game doesn't even run @ 60 FPS and doesn't have graphics settings. Wait a few months till it gets to $40 or less and be patched to get rid of all those bugs.
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#22 C_Rule
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Well im sure they patch it so its still a instant buy for me!Gamemovies

Seems pretty foolsih, to me.

Yes, it may get patched, and and it may turn out to be a good game.

But, in it's current state, it's not worth $5.


Intentionally paying money for unfinished crap like this, you're just telling the dev, it's ok to give PC gamers half finished console ports.

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#23 Lox_Cropek
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[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. nutcrackr

Because of the texture loading or do you have other problems with it?

Framerate problems like the game dropping to 20fps when I just move around. Enemies and buggies flashing (going invisible, and lots of corruption type stuff where the environments flash. The texture pop-in is the least of my worries but obviously looks bad. Btw this is with an Radeon card, I don't think the nVidia cards have these problems. If you have ATI though do not buy this game.

Wow! Thank you for the warning, I'm going to stay away from it

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#24 abuabed
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I don't think the nVidia cards have these problems. If you have ATI though do not buy this game.nutcrackr
Nope, all GPUs suffer from this problem as far as I know.
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#25 deactivated-5d78b683675c5
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[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. nutcrackr

Because of the texture loading or do you have other problems with it?

Framerate problems like the game dropping to 20fps when I just move around. Enemies and buggies flashing (going invisible, and lots of corruption type stuff where the environments flash. The texture pop-in is the least of my worries but obviously looks bad. Btw this is with an Radeon card, I don't think the nVidia cards have these problems. If you have ATI though do not buy this game.

Agreed, its pretty bad. There are also people who can't even get the game to start, others are constantly getting CTDs or loading a save causes display drivers to crash, audio stuttering, artifacts popping up all over, etc. I almost feel they should offer a refund to those who want it. At least if the major problems aren't sorted out within a few days.

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#26 DanielDust
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Cool, another game with a failed launch :/, well might go and pre-order Batman AC now, maybe get another 2 months of WoW too, first BF 3 being underwhelming, now this.
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#27 Yagnav
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On the Nvidia website it states you need the newest beta driver (the same one for BF3, i think its the 280.36 beta) to see an increase in performance. Could be that in some weird marketing move AMD is getting no love. Anyhoo too late for me. Preloaded it already, waiting for the 7th now to play. Though i did see a 61 MB patch being downloaded via steam auto-update.

Reviews say 8/10 and i'm sure a patch fixing the issues will be out soon. Don't y'all think that its just too soon to hit the panic switch and i'm generally feeling the reactions in this thread are a bit overkill.

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#28 Lox_Cropek
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Cool, another game with a failed launch :/, well might go and pre-order Batman AC now, maybe get another 2 months of WoW too, first BF 3 being underwhelming, now this.DanielDust
Why do you think that BF3 is underwhelming?

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#29 NoodleFighter
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Cool, another game with a failed launch :/, well might go and pre-order Batman AC now, maybe get another 2 months of WoW too, first BF 3 being underwhelming, now this.DanielDust

Q3 and Q4 games aren't living up to their hype

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#30 masterdrat
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I don't understand how they would have missed this, during testing. They must have known it was there, and were just too lazy to fix it. C_Rule
Does this happens to everyone or only some people?
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#31 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I don't think the nVidia cards have these problems. If you have ATI though do not buy this game.abuabed
Nope, all GPUs suffer from this problem as far as I know.

My 460 hasn't had those problems. Game has run perfect for me so far. Yeah, it's a little wierd that John Carmack of all people made a game without graphics options or customizability, but it hasn't stopped me from loving the game.

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#32 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Cool, another game with a failed launch :/, well might go and pre-order Batman AC now, maybe get another 2 months of WoW too, first BF 3 being underwhelming, now this.Lox_Cropek

Why do you think that BF3 is underwhelming?

Because of Battlelog and the gameplay, people just didn't want to believe it'll be made after their recent games "NO u stupid, it gon be tru BF like BF 2", don't like anything about it it also has a lot of problems, that won't be solved before or soon after release, it's not worth more than 20€ for me in the state they're planning to sell it.

@NoodleFigher Well nothing is lost for me :P, wasn't really expecting Rage much, wanted to get it because of the art style and because it's id, will still get it if they fix these problems, as for BF 3, I didn't expect much, but what I saw is less than the little I expected, these two were never games on my "must play list", Batman AC, Saints Row 3, AC Revelations, L.A N (like the concept, will get it even tho most say it's boring), MW 3 which I might get the first month even if I'm not expecting much from the sequel of the worst CoD, MW2, and finally SW TOR, Anno 2070, Trine 2, there're also DLCs like the Dungeon Siege 3 one and Missing Link for Deus Ex HR and about 7 indie games that just got released or will be released in the next few months those I'm waiting for the Steam sale then there are surprises like FIFA 12, I never expected it to be so good.

For me at least, nothing of real value was lost.

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#33 pcgamer_07
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Yikes and I was looking foward to Rage.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. nutcrackr

Because of the texture loading or do you have other problems with it?

Framerate problems like the game dropping to 20fps when I just move around. Enemies and buggies flashing (going invisible, and lots of corruption type stuff where the environments flash. The texture pop-in is the least of my worries but obviously looks bad. Btw this is with an Radeon card, I don't think the nVidia cards have these problems. If you have ATI though do not buy this game.

I hate when that happens.

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#34 slabber44
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I'm not trying to be a troll here. Why do people pre-order games anymore? 80 to 90% of all new releases lately have been failed launches. I learned my lesson, and refuse to pre-order anymore (RO 2). After 2 1/2 weeks I was finally able to play it (love it now). I know you can save a little money, but is it worth not knowing if you will end up liking the game at all or if it will even be playable to your liking? I was looking forward to Rage, and still probably will get it. But it won't be till it's patched and I hear that issues are being resolved ( and a price drop if it's just ok ). Not all developers patch their mistakes as fast as Tripwire has with RO 2 ( and there's still plenty more to be done). Hopefully they will and it works out, but I cannot just constantly be screwed over after being excited for a games release.
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#35 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="slabber44"]I'm not trying to be a troll here. Why do people pre-order games anymore? 80 to 90% of all new releases lately have been failed launches. I learned my lesson, and refuse to pre-order anymore (RO 2). After 2 1/2 weeks I was finally able to play it (love it now). I know you can save a little money, but is it worth not knowing if you will end up liking the game at all or if it will even be playable to your liking? I was looking forward to Rage, and still probably will get it. But it won't be till it's patched and I hear that issues are being resolved ( and a price drop if it's just ok ). Not all developers patch their mistakes as fast as Tripwire has with RO 2 ( and there's still plenty more to be done). Hopefully they will and it works out, but I cannot just constantly be screwed over after being excited for a games release.

I usually wait a week or so, to see what the games reception was like. However, I have pre-ordered BF3, due to my enjoyment in previous Battlefield games. BF3 is my first pre-order since Halo2, lol, long time.
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ID spent over 4 years on this and havent put in basic graphics options? Shame.
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#37 -wildflower-
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ID spent over 4 years on this and havent put in basic graphics options? Shame.bonafidetk

Nah, it's just streamlining. Having graphic options would simply be too confusing for most modern gamers. :lol:

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#38 arsenal262
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It's coming out on the 7th where I live do you think they will have a patch by then? I am buying it regardless.

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#39 RobertBowen
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Well, I just cancelled my preorder of two copies of RAGE, after seeing some of the screenshots and videos posted over on the Steam forums, and hearing about all the problems with this game.

The PC release seems to be really quite poor, from what I've seen and read, and I'm frankly surprised that ID would ship the game in this state. Didn't they test this game at all on PC hardware prior to release? Have they simply forgetten that PC gamers need proper graphical settings (and other) options to tweak a game to run on their hardware? I really have to wonder what's going through their minds.

If they can fix this game up with some major patches, maybe I'll consider getting it on PC in the future, but until then it's dropped right down to the bottom of my wanted list.

I'm still waiting for a decent patch to Dead Island before I pick up that game as well. What is with these shoddy releases, all of a sudden? Is it catching, or something?

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See I undestand the auto-detect graphics, they want 60fps for everybody. That's been their selling point. However it seems that the texture streaming is a major issue.

I'm sure it will see a patch.

I preordered the game for $42 and I'll be getting it in a couply of days in the mail. I still think I'm going to enjoy it.

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#41 HoosTrax
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That does look pretty bad. I have to say though, no game I've personally owned has had more blatant texture pop-in than Borderlands, especially when first loading an area. Looks pretty much like the third screenshot here. The saving grace in that case I guess is that Borderlands's selling point was never cutting edge graphics, but the replay value / gameplay, and it's graphics are intentionally cell shaded instead of realistic.
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#42 C_Rule
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See I undestand the auto-detect graphics, they want 60fps for everybody. That's been their selling point. However it seems that the texture streaming is a major issue.

I'm sure it will see a patch.

I preordered the game for $42 and I'll be getting it in a couply of days in the mail. I still think I'm going to enjoy it.

Wasdie
Yes, but I don't like that they think PC gamers are too stupid to achieve 60 fps, by tweaking the game, themselves.
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#43 HoosTrax
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60 FOV is low, would prefer 90 at least.

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I wasn't aware of that. Excessively narrow default FOVs, like those used in Oblivion and Half-Life 2, are guaranteed to make me nauseous within minutes. Other FPSs that use a proper FOV (~90) I can play for hours on end without the slightest nausea.
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#44 MyopicCanadian
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Wow... I didn't see that one coming AT ALL. I thought for sure a dev like id would take great care in the PC version.. this is seriously disappointing. So ridiculous texture pop-in, inconsistent framerates, locked FOV, mouse acceleration, and no Eyefinity support... that's just awesome.

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#45 morrowindnic
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Console port... Pass.

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#46 Evz0rz
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Looks like Dark Souls will be getting my $60 this week then

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#47 sailor232
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Yeah thats horrid, so the game is only like this on the pc version?? either way it is inexcusable. What happened to ID, all its going to take is a few more unpolished turds and the masses will turn on them.

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#48 MythPro1
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Further proof you never buy games on day one. It doesn't matter how good you think the game is going to be. Just wait.

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Do not buy this game, this is an awful awful mess. nutcrackr
Thanks for the heads-up, I won't be buying this game.
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#50 Artekus
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Well, that's disappointing :\

I guess I'll wait a while before deciding if I buy or not.