Best custom specs possible for a 2200$ computer. (Requesting part list)

Generally, I'm new to hardware. Not software. But I'm examining buying an efficent PC. And what's the best I can get custom built specs wise for 2200.

Also will I be able to absolutely max out BF3 at a consistant 60 FPS?

Edit: If I could get some specs, that'd be nice of you guys.

You could max out BF3 for $1000. You don't need to spend anywhere near $2000 in order to get an excellant rig.

You could max out BF3 for $1000. You don't need to spend anywhere near $2000 in order to get an excellant rig.

xxLordDavidxx

I know, but I'm just making it top, top notch. And I mean best of the best.

Also, updated OP. Could I get some specs plox?

Do you need a monitor, keyboard+mouse or speakers?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146067 (Case suggestion, there are tons of others you can get, I just like this one)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125384 (two of these, you can overclock them to about 580 speeds)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018 (known as probably the best air cpu cooler)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820249010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.735488

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723933

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.700140

Total after shipping and taxes(depending on where you live): $2186.40

Rebates: $90

Top-top notch eh? $7000 is about as top notch as you can get without being the air force. Lets be reasonable though. $2200 is a nice wad to build with.

GPU: GTX 580 x2

Around $1000

CPU: I7 2600k

Around $300

MOBO: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

Around $300

CASE: HAF 932

Around $160

PSU: Corsair AX850

Around $190

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB 1600

Around $50

OD: Any old burner for $20 and ASUS Black Blu-ray

Around $90

SSD/boot: OCZ agility 60GB

Around $110

HDD: WDCB 1TB 7200

Around $80

TOTAL: $2280

Should last you quite a while, and you can throw in/raid another SSD or HDD for long lasting computing :)

Top-top notch eh? $7000 is about as top notch as you can get without being the air force. Lets be reasonable though. $2200 is a nice wad to build with.

GPU: GTX 580 x2

Around $1000

CPU: I7 2600k

Around $300

MOBO: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

Around $300

CASE: HAF 932

Around $160

PSU: Corsair AX850

Around $190

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB 1600

Around $50

OD: Any old burner for $20 and ASUS Black Blu-ray

Around $90

SSD/boot: OCZ agility 60GB

Around $110

HDD: WDCB 1TB 7200

Around $80

TOTAL: $2280

Should last you quite a while, and you can throw in/raid another SSD or HDD for long lasting computing :)

Zevante101

Wait, if some thing like this can easily max out BF3 at 60 FPS for about half of my 2200$ investment. What's the point of getting a 7000$? I mean, it already runs all.

Top-top notch eh? $7000 is about as top notch as you can get without being the air force. Lets be reasonable though. $2200 is a nice wad to build with.

GPU: GTX 580 x2

Around $1000

CPU: I7 2600k

Around $300

MOBO: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

Around $300

CASE: HAF 932

Around $160

PSU: Corsair AX850

Around $190

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB 1600

Around $50

OD: Any old burner for $20 and ASUS Black Blu-ray

Around $90

SSD/boot: OCZ agility 60GB

Around $110

HDD: WDCB 1TB 7200

Around $80

TOTAL: $2280

Should last you quite a while, and you can throw in/raid another SSD or HDD for long lasting computing :)

Zevante101

[QUOTE="Zevante101"]

Top-top notch eh? $7000 is about as top notch as you can get without being the air force. Lets be reasonable though. $2200 is a nice wad to build with.

GPU: GTX 580 x2

Around $1000

CPU: I7 2600k

Around $300

MOBO: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

Around $300

CASE: HAF 932

Around $160

PSU: Corsair AX850

Around $190

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB 1600

Around $50

OD: Any old burner for $20 and ASUS Black Blu-ray

Around $90

SSD/boot: OCZ agility 60GB

Around $110

HDD: WDCB 1TB 7200

Around $80

TOTAL: $2280

Should last you quite a while, and you can throw in/raid another SSD or HDD for long lasting computing :)

evildead6789

two GTX 580s take around 720W from the wall in stress, and the other components excluding the CPU or OD around low-power consumption, so 850 is on the verge. A 1000W would be unnecessary but more safe/futureproof I suppose.

The i7 has 2 extra MBs of cache which is helpful on a top notch build

I believe any big-budget computer should have some sort of SSD, but it certainly is optional.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="Zevante101"]

Top-top notch eh? $7000 is about as top notch as you can get without being the air force. Lets be reasonable though. $2200 is a nice wad to build with.

GPU: GTX 580 x2

Around $1000

CPU: I7 2600k

Around $300

MOBO: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

Around $300

CASE: HAF 932

Around $160

PSU: Corsair AX850

Around $190

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB 1600

Around $50

OD: Any old burner for $20 and ASUS Black Blu-ray

Around $90

SSD/boot: OCZ agility 60GB

Around $110

HDD: WDCB 1TB 7200

Around $80

TOTAL: $2280

Should last you quite a while, and you can throw in/raid another SSD or HDD for long lasting computing :)

Zevante101

two GTX 580s take around 720W from the wall in stress, and the other components excluding the CPU or OD around low-power consumption, so 850 is on the verge. A 1000W would be unnecessary but more safe/futureproof I suppose.

The i7 has 2 extra MBs of cache which is helpful on a top notch build

I believe any big-budget computer should have some sort of SSD, but it certainly is optional.

Especially because when the capacitors age, the system will draw more W. The gtx 580 takes 363 W under load, so 720 W for the two is about correct. That doesn't leave much headroom with a 850 W psu, a cpu is already 95W. So 850 W is a bad idea. The i7 may have 2mb extra cache , it isn't all that helpfull, especially not for that price. If you have money to spend ok , but it would be the first thing i ditch to lower the price or buy something else with that money. I would spend the money on an ssd first. But it doesn't matter, quality vga cards are still a lot more important especally at that price. sound is an issue here, speed, durability and cooling too. What's too like at a big budget system if it makes the sound of an airplane. evildead6789

You my friend are a tough critic. Revised list (for OP to mix and match):

CPU:I7 2600k OR cheaper I5 2500K

$200-$300

CPU COOL: Corsair H60 liquid OR cheaper Cooler Master 212

$30-$70

GPU: MSI twin frorzr GTX580 x2 OR cheaper Sapphire Radeon 6990

$730-$1000

MOBO:Asus Maximus IV Extreme OR cheaper EVGA P67 FTW

$250-$300

CASE: HAF X OR cheaper XCLIO Windtunnel (may not be your style, you can pick whatever case you want)

$85-$200

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 2133 8GB OR cheaper G.SKILL Ripjaws 2133 4GB (Very speedy)

$50-$100

PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W OR cheaper Antec High Current Gamer 900W (a bit risky)

$130-$200

SSD: Crucial RealSSD 128GB OR cheaper Crucial M4 64GB

$115-$250

HDD: Velocidrive 300GB OR cheaper WDCB 640GB

$60-$150

OD: Anything for $20

$1685 For all the cheapest, $2600 for all the most expensive. Mix and match whichever you want. If you have extra left over consider these-

Optionals:

LCD Fan controller - $25

Blu-ray drive - $70

Especially because when the capacitors age, the system will draw more W. The gtx 580 takes 363 W under load, so 720 W for the two is about correct. That doesn't leave much headroom with a 850 W psu, a cpu is already 95W. So 850 W is a bad idea. The i7 may have 2mb extra cache , it isn't all that helpfull, especially not for that price. If you have money to spend ok , but it would be the first thing i ditch to lower the price or buy something else with that money. I would spend the money on an ssd first. But it doesn't matter, quality vga cards are still a lot more important especally at that price. sound is an issue here, speed, durability and cooling too. What's too like at a big budget system if it makes the sound of an airplane. evildead6789

FWIW, based on this review, a pair of GTX 580's coupled with a high-end system would pull, at most, 720W. The power supply linked in Zevante101's earlier system should be enough for a system of that caliber.

You could max out BF3 for $1000. You don't need to spend anywhere near $2000 in order to get an excellant rig.

xxLordDavidxx

No he won't max out(1080p, 60fps ultra, everyting max) bf 3 for 1000$. Right now what we know is that two gtx 580's at 1080p (cost 800-1000$) can handle everything maxed out. There is no one card gpu that can handle BF3 on max settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lg0b6ZkW5U&feature=player_embedded

Rumor about vram on nvidia forum:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=209129

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]Especially because when the capacitors age, the system will draw more W. The gtx 580 takes 363 W under load, so 720 W for the two is about correct. That doesn't leave much headroom with a 850 W psu, a cpu is already 95W. So 850 W is a bad idea. The i7 may have 2mb extra cache , it isn't all that helpfull, especially not for that price. If you have money to spend ok , but it would be the first thing i ditch to lower the price or buy something else with that money. I would spend the money on an ssd first. But it doesn't matter, quality vga cards are still a lot more important especally at that price. sound is an issue here, speed, durability and cooling too. What's too like at a big budget system if it makes the sound of an airplane. GS550L

FWIW, based on this review, a pair of GTX 580's coupled with a high-end system would pull, at most, 720W. The power supply linked in Zevante101's earlier system should be enough for a system of that caliber.

What if he overclocks that will draw more power too and psu's have the tendency to get weaker over time. What if there a spikes in the system if something shorts out, or a faulty usb drive, 850 W is not a lot of headroom especially when the system ages. If the capacitators are 50 percent used up the system would use 1075 W.

In a 2000$+ system , i say why take the risk for only 30$ more.

I think guru3d thinks the same about this because they used a 1200W psu to power that test setup in this review.

I mixed up the wattages of the card with that of a full system. So you're right 720 W for everything but it doesn't change the fact that 850W is still a bad idea. 720W with a new system, in two years time because of the aging of the capacitators the system will use more W and 850W will be to close.

evildead6789

I do agree that capacitors age, but they age at a rate such that when it becomes a problem, the system would be generally obsolete.

What if he overclocks that will draw more power too and psu's have the tendency to get weaker over time. What if there a spikes in the system if something shorts out, or a faulty usb drive, 850 W is not a lot of headroom especially when the system ages. If the capacitators are 50 percent used up the system would use 1075 W.

evildead6789

Guru3d's test system was running a substantial overclock.

A difference in power supply wattages shouldn't be detrimental to the system should there be an abnormal spike in power consumption; if that were to happen, the over-current protection would trip and cut power to the system. If anything, a lower wattage unit would be safer to use, as it lowers the OCP trip threshold, thus lowering the chance that a shorted component(s) continues to draw power.

Though TBH, I don't know why I'm debating this. The two power supplies linked in Zevante101's second build are decent enough, and they're rated for a higher wattage while remaining at roughly the same price as the Corsair 850W unit.

[QUOTE="xxLordDavidxx"]

You could max out BF3 for $1000. You don't need to spend anywhere near $2000 in order to get an excellant rig.

seba20007

No he won't max out(1080p, 60fps ultra, everyting max) bf 3 for 1000$. Right now what we know is that two gtx 580's at 1080p (cost 800-1000$) can handle everything maxed out. There is no one card gpu that can handle BF3 on max settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lg0b6ZkW5U&feature=player_embedded

Rumor about vram on nvidia forum:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=209129

werent all of the pc videos 1080p at 60fps and running on a single gtx 580? and that wasnt even the final build, it should be even more optomized when it comes out...

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

I mixed up the wattages of the card with that of a full system. So you're right 720 W for everything but it doesn't change the fact that 850W is still a bad idea. 720W with a new system, in two years time because of the aging of the capacitators the system will use more W and 850W will be to close.

GS550L

I do agree that capacitors age, but they age at a rate such that when it becomes a problem, the system would be generally obsolete.

What if he overclocks that will draw more power too and psu's have the tendency to get weaker over time. What if there a spikes in the system if something shorts out, or a faulty usb drive, 850 W is not a lot of headroom especially when the system ages. If the capacitators are 50 percent used up the system would use 1075 W.

evildead6789

Guru3d's test system was running a substantial overclock.

A difference in power supply wattages shouldn't be detrimental to the system should there be an abnormal spike in power consumption; if that were to happen, the over-current protection would trip and cut power to the system. If anything, a lower wattage unit would be safer to use, as it lowers the OCP trip threshold, thus lowering the chance that a shorted component(s) continues to draw power.

Though TBH, I don't know why I'm debating this. The two power supplies linked in Zevante101's second build are decent enough, and they're rated for a higher wattage while remaining at roughly the same price as the Corsair 850W unit.

You may be saying capacitators age at a slow rate but i for instance never shut down my pc. I still have a working p4 2.8 ghz build in 2003 and it's still used. When i build a system it's build to last. Shutting down for shortouts isn't healthy for a psu and it makes it harder to identify the problem, the first thing you will think is that the psu is dead but this is not that important, what is more important is that a psu that's under constant stress , fails faster.

evildead6789

If your system had a short, you would want the system to lose power as soon as possible. Continuing to deliver power to a shorted component would not only be a fire hazard, it could also damage other components that are dependant to it.

Also important is that his cpu is made for overclocking The vga-cards are also made for overclocking. So guru 3d may have been running a substantial overclock , he will probably overclock too. Not to mention all those little power eaters, like usb devices, leds, card readers, fans. It's not much but it all ads up. evildead6789

Guru3d's test system contains multiple hard drives, an above average amount of fans, CCFL's, and a liquid cooling system, all of which qualify as "little power eaters" and make for an accurate representation of a system that's fairly loaded with extra components. Plus, consider that the power draw was measured off the wall, which means that after taking into account the efficiency of the power supply, the actual power draw from the power supply is lower than the 720W value given by Guru3d.

Even if at a certain point in time he wants to upgrades cards, it could be possible they draw even more power. All in all , too much advantages for only 30$ more. Too much risk for only 30$ less.evildead6789

That's true, but at the same time, the OP should ask himself what kind of power draw he's willing to tolerate. From my point of view, 700W is a very high power draw considering that my humble system (Athlon II x3/twin 4850 512MB), which scarcely pulls 450-500W, is capable of heating up an average sized room to an uncomfortable level. Also, consider that with a power draw above 850W, the OP would likely have to invest into an extravagant cooling system, as most air-cooling solutions would not be able to effectively deal with that kind of heat-dump

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

If your system had a short, you would want the system to lose power as soon as possible. Continuing to deliver power to a shorted component would not only be a fire hazard, it could also damage other components that are dependant to it.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

Also important is that his cpu is made for overclocking The vga-cards are also made for overclocking. So guru 3d may have been running a substantial overclock , he will probably overclock too. Not to mention all those little power eaters, like usb devices, leds, card readers, fans. It's not much but it all ads up. GS550L

Guru3d's test system contains multiple hard drives, an above average amount of fans, CCFL's, and a liquid cooling system, all of which qualify as "little power eaters" and make for an accurate representation of a system that's fairly loaded with extra components. Plus, consider that the power draw was measured off the wall, which means that after taking into account the efficiency of the power supply, the actual power draw from the power supply is lower than the 720W value given by Guru3d.

Even if at a certain point in time he wants to upgrades cards, it could be possible they draw even more power. All in all , too much advantages for only 30$ more. Too much risk for only 30$ less.evildead6789

That's true, but at the same time, the OP should ask himself what kind of power draw he's willing to tolerate. From my point of view, 700W is a very high power draw considering that my humble system (Athlon II x3/twin 4850 512MB), which scarcely pulls 450-500W, is capable of heating up an average sized room to an uncomfortable level. Also, consider that with a power draw above 850W, the OP would likely have to invest into an extravagant cooling system, as most air-cooling solutions would not be able to effectively deal with that kind of heat-dump

I repair pc's every day and the most broken pc's come from broken psu's. The reason is mostly because of low quality and/or low power psu's.

Besides , a fire will not start because of the higher power psu. The 1050 W has over-current protection too.

Who says he won't use extra harddrivers, usb printer, extra fans or whatsoever. When you choose lower power psu's you're cutting away the extra room you have. besides guru 3d used a 1200W not a 1050W.

The review of techpowerup says that two gtx 580 card can go to 627W before the limiter kicks in, that means at a certain point in time, it will draw so much power. and these are just the cards alone. Again headroom is important.

As for future cards power and heat i don't know what power they will use, but if he's willing to pay 2200$ for a gaming system today, i highly doubt the extra heat that the cards and psu produce will stop him from buying newer cards. But this is not the main reason, if the newer cards draw 100W more ok but if it would be 250W more i would advise to buy a 1200W psu. Again for the main reason, durability.

And that's the biggest issue here, durability, i believe in it, you don't. The rest are all extra's , the only downside is the 30$ more. It's up to the OP to choose.

You quote me on the shortouts while i pointed out it wasn't that important, the other argument namely a durable and long lasting system is more important.

I repair pc's every day and the most broken pc's come from broken psu's. The reason is mostly because of low quality and/or low power psu's.

Besides , a fire will not start because of the higher power psu. The 1050 W has over-current protection too.

Who says he won't use extra harddrivers, usb printer, extra fans or whatsoever. When you choose lower power psu's you're cutting away the extra room you have. besides guru 3d used a 1200W not a 1050W.

evildead6789

A higher-wattage power supply will naturally have a higher OCP threshold. Therefor, the chances of it continuing to deliver power to a shorted component is greater than that of a lower-power unit.

Also, Guru3d used a 1200w power supply because it's their test system. They use a 1200W for most of their reviews because it's less of a hassle and gives relatively consistant power consumption results.

The review of techpowerup says that two gtx 580 card can go to 627W before the limiter kicks in, that means at a certain point in time, it will draw so much power. and these are just the cards alone. Again headroom is important.

evildead6789

They also mentioned that they used Furmark to reach that number, and Furmark puts an extremely unrealistic load on GPUs. The peak power consumption they saw for the cards alone in other applications was 444W, which is well within what an 850W unit could handle.

As for future cards power and heat i don't know what power they will use, but if he's willing to pay 2200$ for a gaming system today, i highly doubt the extra heat that the cards and psu produce will stop him from buying newer cards. But this is not the main reason, if the newer cards draw 100W more ok but if it would be 250W more i would advise to buy a 1200W psu. Again for the main reason, durability.

And that's the biggest issue here, durability, i believe in it, you don't. The rest are all extra's , the only downside is the 30$ more. It's up to the OP to choose.

evildead6789

You're putting words in my mouth. I do consider durability important, but at the same time, I also consider what would be unrealistic. If the OP decides to go for an even higher-end system, or perhaps has thoughts of upgrading his system in future, then by all means he should look at a higher-end power supply. I'm not forcing the OP to choose an 850W unit, I'm just pointing out that for this kind of system, an 850W unit would be a reasonable choice.