Best Intel CPU on an 800MHz bus?

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#1 Anti-Semantic
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I want to upgrade my CPU, but my motherboard has several limitations: (1) 800MHz bus, (2) Intel only, and (3) LGA775 socket. My current CPU is a Pentium 4 (3.2ghz). I don't have enough to buy a new motherboard and a brand new CPU, so I am looking to spend $100-180 (Canadian) for either a Dual-Core or Core 2 Duo. - There are 2 specific ones I'm looking at right now: - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116076 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115045 - Would there be a substantial performance difference between the two? And are there any better CPUs at 800MHz?
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#2 powerslide67
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the best is the E4700, make sure your motherboard supports it first.

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#3 Chris_53
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well if you are only limited to the two mentioned, then go for the E4700. I wouldnt touch anything with the name Pentium tbh, as they are old processors that use older technology and arcitecture.
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#4 opamando
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well if you are only limited to the two mentioned, then go for the E4700. I wouldnt touch anything with the name Pentium tbh, as they are old processors that use older technology and arcitecture. Chris_53

Pentium Dual-Cores are just fine. They are a Core2, just with less cache.

Now Pentium 4's and Pentium D's, yeah they were not so great, but the "Pentiums" he linked are good CPU's.

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well if you are only limited to the two mentioned, then go for the E4700. I wouldnt touch anything with the name Pentium tbh, as they are old processors that use older technology and arcitecture. Chris_53

Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about don't bother posting. The E5*00 series are based on the same 45nm architecture as the awesome E8*00 series just with less cache and a slower FSB. Hell it even says Wolfdale in the description.

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#6 BLKR4330
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what is your motherboard?

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[QUOTE="Chris_53"]well if you are only limited to the two mentioned, then go for the E4700. I wouldnt touch anything with the name Pentium tbh, as they are old processors that use older technology and arcitecture. superchronik

Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about don't bother posting. The E5*00 series are based on the same 45nm architecture as the awesome E8*00 series just with less cache and a slower FSB. Hell it even says Wolfdale in the description.

wow dude, chill out, jesus!!. I just made a god damn mistake thats all. Forgive me for causing such horrific offence.
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#8 sihunt
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Hi Topic poster tell us the make and model of your motherboard.

We can double check it for you to make sure you can do the upgrade.

On some motherboards you have to flash the bios to support the

newer processors.

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#9 superchronik
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[QUOTE="superchronik"]

[QUOTE="Chris_53"]well if you are only limited to the two mentioned, then go for the E4700. I wouldnt touch anything with the name Pentium tbh, as they are old processors that use older technology and arcitecture. Chris_53

Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about don't bother posting. The E5*00 series are based on the same 45nm architecture as the awesome E8*00 series just with less cache and a slower FSB. Hell it even says Wolfdale in the description.

wow dude, chill out, jesus!!. I just made a god damn mistake thats all. Forgive me for causing such horrific offence.

S**t sorry about that dude, I woke up in a right mood today and I honestly don't remember it sounding that harsh when I wrote it.

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#10 Anti-Semantic
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Here is my motherboard: http://www.legendmicro.com/store/5105_Intel-D945GCCRG1-Gateway-4006181R-Board---Pull-D945GCCRG1.lmsp I am using an eMachines T5088. I know it's a crappy computer...but as I said, I can't buy a new motherboard, let alone a new computer. Question: Could someone please tell me if I will have to flash my BIOS, if I install either CPU listed above? I don't know how to find that out...
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#11 Anti-Semantic
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Argh! It looks like the e4700 (the Core 2 Duo) just went out of stock. I found the same item at NCIX but it is around $190, compared to $160 at NewEgg. http://ncix.com/products/?sku=29369&vpn=BX80557E4700&manufacture=Intel I keep going back-and-forth between performance and value. Help!?
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#12 Chris_53
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[QUOTE="Chris_53"][QUOTE="superchronik"]

Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about don't bother posting. The E5*00 series are based on the same 45nm architecture as the awesome E8*00 series just with less cache and a slower FSB. Hell it even says Wolfdale in the description.

superchronik

wow dude, chill out, jesus!!. I just made a god damn mistake thats all. Forgive me for causing such horrific offence.

S**t sorry about that dude, I woke up in a right mood today and I honestly don't remember it sounding that harsh when I wrote it.

Lol no worries dude, its cool. I was in a crappy mood myself so i apologise for my reaction :).
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#13 sihunt
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Hi You have to see what bios version you have on your board. Looks like

your board was made by Intel. You have an Intel 945GC Northbridge chipset. I went to Asus site and checked the same

Northbridge chipset on their boards just to see what they have done with their bios versions. Asus

seems to have been able to support 1066Mhz bus natively but 1333 bus will revert to 1066. I found this

forum thread: http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/725714-cpu-bios-upgrade.html

Looks like you will have to go over to the Intel site and see if you can get a bios flash update.

Better check what bios version you have now at this point. Maybe it is new enough to support

the E4700. If you are lucky maybe the new bios will allow you to put in a processor with a 1066Mhz

front side bus.

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[QUOTE="superchronik"]

[QUOTE="Chris_53"] wow dude, chill out, jesus!!. I just made a god damn mistake thats all. Forgive me for causing such horrific offence. Chris_53

S**t sorry about that dude, I woke up in a right mood today and I honestly don't remember it sounding that harsh when I wrote it.

Lol no worries dude, its cool. I was in a crappy mood myself so i apologise for my reaction :).

Being wrong is a civil offsense, gosh :P.

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#15 Anti-Semantic
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Hi You have to see what bios version you have on your board. Looks like

your board was made by Intel. You have an Intel 945GC Northbridge chipset. I went to Asus site and checked the same

Northbridge chipset on their boards just to see what they have done with their bios versions. Asus

seems to have been able to support 1066Mhz bus natively but 1333 bus will revert to 1066. I found this

forum thread: http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/725714-cpu-bios-upgrade.html

Looks like you will have to go over to the Intel site and see if you can get a bios flash update.

Better check what bios version you have now at this point. Maybe it is new enough to support

the E4700. If you are lucky maybe the new bios will allow you to put in a processor with a 1066Mhz

front side bus.

sihunt
Sorry, I'm quite illiterate when it comes to the BIOS. I found out which BIOS version I have "GATEWA - 3ef". There is a new update on the Intel site but it says not to update unless I have a specific problem (which, I don't know if I do) So how do I know whether I can use the e4700, or possibly even a processor with a 1066Mhz bus? And if I need to update the BIOS in either case?
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#16 sihunt
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Hi Looks like you are good to go with an E4700. I guess that was the fastest

Core 2 Duo processor with 800Mhz bus.

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=d945gccr

EDIT: Flash tothe 0059 bios version before you buy the E4700.

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#18 Chris_53
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[QUOTE="Chris_53"][QUOTE="superchronik"]

S**t sorry about that dude, I woke up in a right mood today and I honestly don't remember it sounding that harsh when I wrote it.

JigglyWiggly_

Lol no worries dude, its cool. I was in a crappy mood myself so i apologise for my reaction :).

Being wrong is a civil offsense, gosh :P.

Lol, bad mouthing Intel, yep, I should be excecuted lol.