Best sub woofers made

I want to know what company makes the sub woofers with the best sound quality ,Thanks

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I want to know what company makes the sub woofers with the best sound quality ,ThanksFrieza99

This is a loaded question: Best subwoofer for what? Home or car audio? How large is the room, or is this for outside? What is your budget? Are you talking about for music, movies, or games? How much space do you have?

There is no "best" subwoofer: Many different companies and DIY enthusiasts have made a variety of subwoofers to suit their needs. The best subwoofer for the home theater in my house is not going to be the best subwoofer for someone with a studio apartment.

whats your opinion about SONY MDR-xb3oo ,its a extra bass headphones ,is it best or OK headphone.

Frieza99

I have found Sony's "Extra Bass" headphones to be very muddy sounding. They're pretty comfy with plush earcups, but the audio is - in my opinion - terrible. If you're looking for something with bass punch at about the same price you can check out the JVC HARX700, which still sound great.

last week i lost my speakers ,so,need a good gaming speaker ,selected 2 speaker system,,

logitech s220 black

corsair sp2550

both of them were 2.1 speakers system,i am confused about the selection,

so prefers the best .

Frieza99

If you're looking for 2.1 speakers you want the Klipsch Promedia 2.1. They are an excellent value and sound great. I'm a big fan of Cambridge Soundworks, though their 2.1 speakers are a bit more pricey.

I hope this helps,

Boz

Its a loaded question but if money is no object then the paradigm sub 2 must be top of the list (atleast for me) with its 6 10" drivers and 4500w of amplification.

It really is a sub that could very realistically do structural damage to your house if you were wreckless with it:lol::lol::lol:

Budget?

Its a loaded question but if money is no object then the paradigm sub 2 must be top of the list (atleast for me) with its 6 10" drivers and 4500w of amplification.

It really is a sub that could very realistically do structural damage to your house if you were wreckless with it:lol::lol::lol:

l34052

Best subwoofer ever made period? The 18" sub woofer in the Snell THX Reference system.

the 18" subwoofer is capable of going as far down as 1hz and the cinema posted above is said be the best cinema you'll ever HEAR and FEEL.

so yeah I can definitely assure the best speaker/subwoofer system is the world is the Snell THX Reference system 8)

^ Just to entertain you, the sub you're talking about is the Snell SUB 1800.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/snell-acoustics-type-reference-loudspeaker-specifications

SUB 1800:Reflex-loaded (fourth-order) subwoofer with 18" cast-frame driver.
Frequency response: 17Hz-80Hz ±2dB anechoic.
Impedance: 8 ohms nominal, 7.5 ohms minimum. Sensitivity: 88dB/W/m. Amplifier requirements: 90?400W.

Dimensions:21.5" W by 45" H by 16.5" D. Weight (shipping): 150 lbs each.

Serial numbers of units reviewed:2086/2087.

Price:$2499 each.

Not sure how you came to your conclusions on the performance. This subwoofer also requires a large room. The review says the SUB 1800 is outstanding, but manages to point out instances in which other subs such as the ULD-18 have outperformed the 1800. I would also like to point out that this is a rather old review (published 1996) and Stereophile tends to review more mainstream systems, smaller brands and rather unique speakers are usually overlooked.

So for that reason I wouldn't exactly call it "the best"

^ Just to entertain you, the sub you're talking about is the Snell SUB 1800.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/snell-acoustics-type-reference-loudspeaker-specifications

SUB 1800:Reflex-loaded (fourth-order) subwoofer with 18" cast-frame driver.
Frequency response: 17Hz-80Hz ±2dB anechoic.
Impedance: 8 ohms nominal, 7.5 ohms minimum. Sensitivity: 88dB/W/m. Amplifier requirements: 90?400W.

Dimensions:21.5" W by 45" H by 16.5" D. Weight (shipping): 150 lbs each.

Serial numbers of units reviewed:2086/2087.

Price:$2499 each.

Not sure how you came to your conclusions on the performance. This subwoofer also requires a large room. The review says the SUB 1800 is outstanding, but manages to point out instances in which other subs such as the ULD-18 have outperformed the 1800. I would also like to point out that this is a rather old review (published 1996) and Stereophile tends to review more mainstream systems, smaller brands and rather unique speakers are usually overlooked.

So for that reason I wouldn't exactly call it "the best"

NVIDIATI

Old drivers.. Kipnis designed new drivers so the Snell THX Reference system got imrpoved from something like 17hz-80khz to 1hz-102khz Besides.. can't be #1 at everything now can you :p + sound is subjective etc, but I'd generally consider the SUB 1800s mixed the Snell THX Reference towers produce the best audio fidelity you can get. Mozelleple112

He designed different drivers? Do you have any proof of this?

Kipnis' webpage says "Snell THX Sub-1800 18" Passive Ported Subwoofer" and it wouldn't be a Sub-1800 with a different driver.

The only "subwoofer" driver that I'm aware of that can hit 1Hz-30Hz +/- 4dB is the Eminent Tech TRW 17, which is not a conventional driver by any means.

Oh, are we just getting silly then? In that case, I'll throw my hat in for the MTX Jackhammer ($6,600 from Woofers Etc. via Amazon, +$350 in shipping and handling) as the "best" subwoofer, sans enclosure. It weighs 369 pounds, has a 22" cone, and handles 6000 watts RMS- by itself. Plus, you can buy it right now.

While subwoofers with larger cones have been manufactured by Clarion (32") and Audiobahn (34"), they were never put into commercial production, and the Concept Design 60" woofer never really worked, though it was cool and eventually rebranded as the MTX Thunder 1,000,000 (see picture, right).

Larger subs have been made if you include the enclosure size, like the Matterhorn and Royal Devices, but they're using 15" and 18" conventional subwoofer drivers, respectively.

Did I mention my definition of "best" meant largest, most powerful sub ever? Anything less would be a compromise!

Happy gaming,

Boz

Did I mention my definition of "best" meant largest, most powerful sub ever? Anything less would be a compromise!

Bozanimal

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Old drivers.. Kipnis designed new drivers so the Snell THX Reference system got imrpoved from something like 17hz-80khz to 1hz-102khz Besides.. can't be #1 at everything now can you :p + sound is subjective etc, but I'd generally consider the SUB 1800s mixed the Snell THX Reference towers produce the best audio fidelity you can get. NVIDIATI

He designed different drivers? Do you have any proof of this?

Kipnis' webpage says "Snell THX Sub-1800 18" Passive Ported Subwoofer" and it wouldn't be a Sub-1800 with a different driver.

The only "subwoofer" driver that I'm aware of that can hit 1Hz-30Hz +/- 4dB is the Eminent Tech TRW 17, which is not a conventional driver by any means.

I am friends with Jeremy Kipnis on Facebook and have asked him plenty of questions.. he usually answers with really long, informative replies. yes he tests pretty much every single reputable speaker/woofer out there and found out that the Snell THX Reference system with 8 towers/ 8 subs was the best.. then he redesigned the drivers, added murata tweeters etc so the 18" sub can go down to 1hz up to 80hz.. (actually he said "sub-1hz") and the towers them selves from 80hz to 50khz and the tweeters up from 50khz to 102,5 khz I might have the numbers wrong but he later upgraded by doubling the sub woofers so his surround system can go from 1hz to 102,500hz, play as loudly as 142dB without absolute 0% distortion etc.. the system went from 8.8 to 12.16 channel Snell THX reference system. Designed to be the best in the world. Mozelleple112

According to his webpage he "added" 10 super tweeters (25kHz-102kHz). A super tweeter is just positioned in the room (usually on top of a speaker).

There is no indication he swapped or designed any of the drivers.

The Snell tower speakers alone still provide the 80Hz-25kHz (quoted from the webpage).

So how did he get to the "1Hz"? Apparently by having 16 of the sub-1800s.

A single sub-1800 can only reach 17Hz, but having 16 of them running with proper conditioning can make the difference or so he claims.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]I am friends with Jeremy Kipnis on Facebook and have asked him plenty of questions.. he usually answers with really long, informative replies. yes he tests pretty much every single reputable speaker/woofer out there and found out that the Snell THX Reference system with 8 towers/ 8 subs was the best.. then he redesigned the drivers, added murata tweeters etc so the 18" sub can go down to 1hz up to 80hz.. (actually he said "sub-1hz") and the towers them selves from 80hz to 50khz and the tweeters up from 50khz to 102,5 khz I might have the numbers wrong but he later upgraded by doubling the sub woofers so his surround system can go from 1hz to 102,500hz, play as loudly as 142dB without absolute 0% distortion etc.. the system went from 8.8 to 12.16 channel Snell THX reference system. Designed to be the best in the world. NVIDIATI

According to his webpage he "added" 10 super tweeters (25kHz-102kHz). A super tweeter is just positioned in the room (usually on top of a speaker).

There is no indication he swapped or designed any of the drivers.

The Snell tower speakers alone still provide the 80Hz-25kHz (quoted from the webpage).

So how did he get to the "1Hz"? Apparently by having 16 of the sub-1800s.

A single sub-1800 can only reach 17Hz, but having 16 of them running with proper conditioning can make the difference or so he claims.

" It all depends on the size of the audience and the nature of the acoustic space. But for the KSS Cine Beta "Trinity" Theater, the Snell THX M & C was the most accurate sounding choice because of it's highly controlled dispersion pattern. The music speakers you mention produce much better results when used only in pairs, Rather than in a surround system. For the Trinity Theater, each of the 8.8 channels is completely identical with all drivers and crossover components specially scratch built under my supervision to produce playback accuracy from 1 Hz - 102,500 Hz +/- 1/8 dB."

After that I asked if he used "vanilla" Snell THX reference speakers or if he enhanced them he replied:

"Originally, they were made for Snell by ScanSpeak. But when I set about creating the The Kipnis Studios and defining the Kipnis Studio Standard (KSS), I went to Focal to remake each of the drivers to follow my exact requirements. Runs of 1,000 pieces were commissioned for each type and size found in the Snell THX M&C RT, and the most accurate examples were all matched and installed in the 10 towers that make up my 8.8 (now 12.12) surround sound system."

Focal remade each of the drivers to meet his exact requirements ;) (having the best surround system in the world, regardless of price) so he needed Snell THX Reference towers with new and improved drivers to do so.

KEF make good sub woofers

I asked him if the Snell THX Music & Cinema Reference towers were the best speakers since he used them and he give me this anwer

" It all depends on the size of the audience and the nature of the acoustic space. But for the KSS Cine Beta "Trinity" Theater, the Snell THX M & C was the most accurate sounding choice because of it's highly controlled dispersion pattern. The music speakers you mention produce much better results when used only in pairs, Rather than in a surround system. For the Trinity Theater, each of the 8.8 channels is completely identical with all drivers and crossover components specially scratch built under my supervision to produce playback accuracy from 1 Hz - 102,500 Hz +/- 1/8 dB."

After that I asked if he used "vanilla" Snell THX reference speakers or if he enhanced them he replied:

"Originally, they were made for Snell by ScanSpeak. But when I set about creating the The Kipnis Studios and defining the Kipnis Studio Standard (KSS), I went to Focal to remake each of the drivers to follow my exact requirements. Runs of 1,000 pieces were commissioned for each type and size found in the Snell THX M&C RT, and the most accurate examples were all matched and installed in the 10 towers that make up my 8.8 (now 12.12) surround sound system."

Focal remade each of the drivers to meet his exact requirements ;) (having the best surround system in the world, regardless of price) so he needed Snell THX Reference towers with new and improved drivers to do so.

Mozelleple112

Anyways getting back to the subwoofer, I still doubt a single of his "custom" SUB-1800s can perform at 1Hz-80Hz at a reasonable +/- XdB.

REL for music, JL audio for home theater or a mix of home theater and music. Depends on price range. As mentioned svssruane23

JL is much better at car audio than home audio imo.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

I asked him if the Snell THX Music & Cinema Reference towers were the best speakers since he used them and he give me this anwer

" It all depends on the size of the audience and the nature of the acoustic space. But for the KSS Cine Beta "Trinity" Theater, the Snell THX M & C was the most accurate sounding choice because of it's highly controlled dispersion pattern. The music speakers you mention produce much better results when used only in pairs, Rather than in a surround system. For the Trinity Theater, each of the 8.8 channels is completely identical with all drivers and crossover components specially scratch built under my supervision to produce playback accuracy from 1 Hz - 102,500 Hz +/- 1/8 dB."

After that I asked if he used "vanilla" Snell THX reference speakers or if he enhanced them he replied:

"Originally, they were made for Snell by ScanSpeak. But when I set about creating the The Kipnis Studios and defining the Kipnis Studio Standard (KSS), I went to Focal to remake each of the drivers to follow my exact requirements. Runs of 1,000 pieces were commissioned for each type and size found in the Snell THX M&C RT, and the most accurate examples were all matched and installed in the 10 towers that make up my 8.8 (now 12.12) surround sound system."

Focal remade each of the drivers to meet his exact requirements ;) (having the best surround system in the world, regardless of price) so he needed Snell THX Reference towers with new and improved drivers to do so.

NVIDIATI

Anyways getting back to the subwoofer, I still doubt a single of his "custom" SUB-1800s can perform at 1Hz-80Hz at a reasonable +/- XdB.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

I asked him if the Snell THX Music & Cinema Reference towers were the best speakers since he used them and he give me this anwer

" It all depends on the size of the audience and the nature of the acoustic space. But for the KSS Cine Beta "Trinity" Theater, the Snell THX M & C was the most accurate sounding choice because of it's highly controlled dispersion pattern. The music speakers you mention produce much better results when used only in pairs, Rather than in a surround system. For the Trinity Theater, each of the 8.8 channels is completely identical with all drivers and crossover components specially scratch built under my supervision to produce playback accuracy from 1 Hz - 102,500 Hz +/- 1/8 dB."

After that I asked if he used "vanilla" Snell THX reference speakers or if he enhanced them he replied:

"Originally, they were made for Snell by ScanSpeak. But when I set about creating the The Kipnis Studios and defining the Kipnis Studio Standard (KSS), I went to Focal to remake each of the drivers to follow my exact requirements. Runs of 1,000 pieces were commissioned for each type and size found in the Snell THX M&C RT, and the most accurate examples were all matched and installed in the 10 towers that make up my 8.8 (now 12.12) surround sound system."

Focal remade each of the drivers to meet his exact requirements ;) (having the best surround system in the world, regardless of price) so he needed Snell THX Reference towers with new and improved drivers to do so.

Mozelleple112

Anyways getting back to the subwoofer, I still doubt a single of his "custom" SUB-1800s can perform at 1Hz-80Hz at a reasonable +/- XdB.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Focal eh, not sure why he would keep the same name on his webpage for the speakers when they're not the same at all (only enclosure and maybe some crossover components). Interesting to see how he has a focus for 12.12, maybe he'll upgrade to a Hamasaki 22.2 setup or something similar. As for the "best" well its always an ongoing debate amoung most audiophiles. Some see Jeremy as brilliant, others see him as one with overpriced toys. I don't really have a side to take, but his setup is definatly a benchmark. The only thing I always keep in mind is that in the world of audio/video price does not mean performance.

Anyways getting back to the subwoofer, I still doubt a single of his "custom" SUB-1800s can perform at 1Hz-80Hz at a reasonable +/- XdB.

kraken2109

Maybe if the room is cinema sized, it doesn't make any sense in an ordinary sized room.kraken2109