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I'd say the original Medieval is by far the best, and would recommend that you get the Total War: Ages or Eras compilation, whatever it's called. It comes with every TW game and every expansion until Medieval II. Buy Medieval II as well.
They're all awesome, and all worth owning and playing. But I would definitely say Medieval is the best. But Medieval II is the best looking. If the Roman era appeals to you, you may enjoy Rome most. It has plenty of refinements and improvements, and looks awesome. I just can't stand the Roman setting.
But I highly recommend all of them.
For me,
Medieval Total War 1; including the Viking expansion not as much for what it bring, but for what it doesn't break. It adds a few twists and a new map which is less interesting then the original maps IMO, yet, it doesn't break the game in anyway.
Why is it better for me? On a GBT (Game Base Turn) strategic point of view, the game is CLEARER and less micro-management. Each state can work on 1building/improvement and on 1 unit at the time, and you have provinces divisions. The result is, that you follow a lot more easily on what is happening everywhere. I can load any old save, and I will be able to kick in and play. If I load an old save of Medieval 2, there is no way I would kick in fast, I would have to study the map and waste time, as it isn't clear and would need to figure out what is happening.
Again, simple (not stupid) is good. Maybe they could explore a mix of both, provincial divisions and hex by hex squares for a future sequel...or revert back to whole provinces simply...the mix could be that old provinces, they lose all complex divisions and are just handled with a provincial square...while conquest areas might be square by square until they have been pacified or something, at which point a unit anywhere in it is stationned as overall province rather then just an hex. Exceptionnally, for some invasions, they may revert back from provincials to hex, but it should be exceptionnal rather then the norm, once you simplified, you keep it simple unless it is critical.
Medieval Total War 1 is the game which puts them on the map, and no other game they release achieve a similar progression in "notoriety" for the compagny as this game did.
Newer titles, they always have better rules, if you take each rule seperatedly. But the overall game is heavy, complex, tedious. It is less a game, more a simulation...and even if challenges and deephness are welcome, complexity for the sake of complexity alone isn't what I want ina game.
Maybe they could explore provinces merging, either at key history dates, or when you conquer all the requested province. For example, maybe conquering Bordeaux, Provence and Marseilles could create Languedoc (or whatever the correct name for southern France), and merge the province. By merging it, all the other provinces nearby merge as well and the map expand. So you still have about 50 provinces on the maps, but instead of just been western Europe, it is all Europe now...and/or maybe new building/units could be produce, units/building you really want bad...and you keep each and every building from each of the 3 old states, any duplicate could give some form of bonus either in raw $, in revenues or whatever. So France, instead of been 8-12 provinces, is now 3-4. Eventually you may even go further and merge them all to get France...and maybe even later get the EU if we play modern. Upon merging you would have to consider what happen if more then 1 faction is on many provinces, you could have a simple clashtillvictory setting, or have special rules if you deem them worthy, at any rate, it give you a direct goal...if you play with province merging, it has to be SIMPLE...so maybe you have 2 type of borders, normal and highlight...where the highlight show clearly which provinces are connected with each other for later...unless you want to allow the merging options to the player, so when he has 3 provinces he can merge them, but such an option would require quite some work from the devs so I would recommend and prefer the simple highlight, yet, if you want something superior, it is there, but just finding the names for all possible combinations is a lot...the rules, and what to do if 2 small provinces are lock away and unable to merge because of players choices and so on...highlighting pre-define merging would be my preferrence and by far, as it is clear, simple, and the devs could put work on other aspects...they could always explore leaving more options to the players in ulterior sequels as to how provinces are merged.
I think the factions are far more varied and interesting in Rome TW. I found the recruitment system simpler in Rome TW, all in all i thought Rome was a fresher and better game. But that being said, M2 looks gorgeous.RikstahSeriously? no really, seriously? how on earth did you find this ancient thread?
My experience with Total War are: Shogun, Rome, Medieval 2, and Empire.
Of those I'd say I like/liked Rome the best. It was a major improvement over Shogun: Total War
and forever sealed itself as one of my favorite games of all time.
That being said I play ME2 way more than Rome as it's essencally the same game just all around improved.
[QUOTE="Rikstah"]I think the factions are far more varied and interesting in Rome TW. I found the recruitment system simpler in Rome TW, all in all i thought Rome was a fresher and better game. But that being said, M2 looks gorgeous.DanielDustSeriously? no really, seriously? how on earth did you find this ancient thread?
Search engines most likely. If it's a thread with an unresolved problem I see no reason in bumping it to post a fix, and don't know why members complain. This on the other hand...
I guess I'm unlike everyone else, since I like Medieval 2 the most. Just somehow never got that much into Rome. Maybe some day... really looking forward to Shoqun 2!
[QUOTE="muuuc"]Rome is best by far, no contestmorrowindnic
Thanks for bumping a two year old thread.
He could've made the exact same thread again, but then he would be told to use the search function. I personally preferred Rome, but that's probably because it was my first TW game. The unit variation was nice though, unlike Medieval where it felt like you had the Western units and the Eastern units and that's that. Historically it makes sense, but variety is nice. One reason I don't like Empire, y'know, line infantry everywhere.[QUOTE="morrowindnic"][QUOTE="muuuc"]Rome is best by far, no contestVfanek
Thanks for bumping a two year old thread.
He could've made the exact same thread again, but then he would be told to use the search function. I personally preferred Rome, but that's probably because it was my first TW game. The unit variation was nice though, unlike Medieval where it felt like you had the Western units and the Eastern units and that's that. Historically it makes sense, but variety is nice. One reason I don't like Empire, y'know, line infantry everywhere.And what use does bumping an old thread have over creating a new one?
You search for answers, not to bump 2 year old threads.
He could've made the exact same thread again, but then he would be told to use the search function. I personally preferred Rome, but that's probably because it was my first TW game. The unit variation was nice though, unlike Medieval where it felt like you had the Western units and the Eastern units and that's that. Historically it makes sense, but variety is nice. One reason I don't like Empire, y'know, line infantry everywhere.[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="morrowindnic"]
Thanks for bumping a two year old thread.
morrowindnic
And what use does bumping an old thread have over creating a new one?
You search for answers, not to bump 2 year old threads.
It looks like he's revived the thread, in other words it's just like if he re-opened the thread and it's up and going again. What have you contributed to the thread?I agree that they are stupidly unbalanced and gamebreaking. But keep in mind that it's Medieval Total War. Wars back then consisted of cannon (well, arrow) fodder and knights. The fodder was everythign except the nobles and they weren't there to cause any serious damage, that was the job of the cavalry. It was an era dominated by heavy cavalry.Rome Total war is the best.
Medeival 2 is close, but cavalry units are way too unbalanced.
martinX3X
[QUOTE="martinX3X"]I agree that they are stupidly unbalanced and gamebreaking. But keep in mind that it's Medieval Total War. Wars back then consisted of cannon (well, arrow) fodder and knights. The fodder was everythign except the nobles and they weren't there to cause any serious damage, that was the job of the cavalry. It was an era dominated by heavy cavalry. hmm you do have a point. But they still could have turned it down just a notch. From the matches ive played online people were using All-Cavalry armies which were hard to beat.Rome Total war is the best.
Medeival 2 is close, but cavalry units are way too unbalanced.
Vfanek
Rome by far
In all the other total war games all the factions felt a little too similiar. In rome you have phalanx units, legion heavy infantry, chariots, elephants, heavy cavalry, horse archers etc
Rome by far
In all the other total war games all the factions felt a little too similiar. In rome you have phalanx units, legion heavy infantry, chariots, elephants, heavy cavalry, horse archers etc
KeithFerns
All you needed was to spam your entire army with 1 unit to win. What could beat 16 Praetorian Cohorts? 16 cataphracts, 16 forrester archers, 16 spartans, 16 elephants, etc.
[QUOTE="KeithFerns"]
Rome by far
In all the other total war games all the factions felt a little too similiar. In rome you have phalanx units, legion heavy infantry, chariots, elephants, heavy cavalry, horse archers etc
XaosII
All you needed was to spam your entire army with 1 unit to win. What could beat 16 Praetorian Cohorts? 16 cataphracts, 16 forrester archers, 16 spartans, 16 elephants, etc.
You'd need quite the economy to support that, adn you'll never manage that in any semi serious multiplayer game.It all depends on your preference.
I love Rome and Medieval 2, I don't really like Empire and Napoleon though.
And I am very ecstatic for Shogun!!!!!
Rome, or Medival 2, its a tough choice, Rome had the Better visuals for teh Battlefeild (like seeing cities in the distance, mountains with snow, wonders in the background.
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