best video card for under 150 dollars and link

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#1 Clipper591
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what is the best video card i can buy for under 150 dollars and prefferably nvidia so i can take advantage of physx and a link on a .ca website cuz im in canada

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#2 jedikevin2
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Bout the best thing you can get.

EVGA gtx 460 768mb 169.99/149.99 after rebate Free Shipping

I have this card specifically as well. Runs EXTREMELY well and overclocks a TON.(800 core clock+ using evga precision and still runs under 56C max)

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#3 Mystic-G
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Bout the best thing you can get.

EVGA gtx 460 768mb 169.99/149.99 after rebate Free Shipping

I have this card specifically as well. Runs EXTREMELY well and overclocks a TON.(800 core clock+ using evga precision and still runs under 56C max)

jedikevin2
I'm betting he's not looking for a rebate. The 5770 is your best choice unless you can find a GTX 460 on sale under that. If you're gonna get it soon I'd wait for next week since Newegg's Black Friday sales are gonna be all week long.
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#4 nintendog66
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I'd suggest you pay just a bit more(30$) and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product

or this(this one has free shipping)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-161-348-_-Product

It will blow everything out of the water in the same price range(150$-200$). If you just can't pay the extra 30, then go for this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=HD%205770&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

Still a very nice card but you would be losing about twice the performance for just bit more.

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#5 Clipper591
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ok thanks i want to buy it by end of month

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#6 Clipper591
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I'd suggest you pay just a bit more(30$) and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product

or this(this one has free shipping)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-161-348-_-Product

It will blow everything out of the water in the same price range(150$-200$). If you just can't pay the extra 30, then go for this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=HD%205770&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

Still a very nice card but you would be losing about twice the performance for just bit more.

nintendog66

those are all newegg.com i need newegg.ca

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#7 tequilasunriser
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]

I'd suggest you pay just a bit more(30$) and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product

or this(this one has free shipping)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-161-348-_-Product

It will blow everything out of the water in the same price range(150$-200$). If you just can't pay the extra 30, then go for this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=HD%205770&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

Still a very nice card but you would be losing about twice the performance for just bit more.

Clipper591

those are all newegg.com i need newegg.ca

Copy and paste the product name into the search field at newegg.ca. Windows has the copy/paste feature in your neck of the woods doesn't it? :P
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]

I'd suggest you pay just a bit more(30$) and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product

or this(this one has free shipping)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-161-348-_-Product

It will blow everything out of the water in the same price range(150$-200$). If you just can't pay the extra 30, then go for this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=HD%205770&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

Still a very nice card but you would be losing about twice the performance for just bit more.

Clipper591

those are all newegg.com i need newegg.ca

stop being so lazy, you've been given the names of some great cards and could easily find them elsewhere.
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#9 jedikevin2
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Let me make observations before the member gets off track. If the members actually took a look at the newegg.ca side of things they would have noticed that the cards they are offering are crazily over the price the TC is asking. Here is a breakdown on the cards proposed above but from newegg.ca:

1.Sapphire 6850 184.99 10.74 shipping This is 195 dollars which is 45 dollars more then the TC asked for.

2.HIS 6850 179.99 with 4.99 shipping This is 185 dollars. Again thats 35 dollars over the 150 mark the TC asked for.

3. Whoever is telling you to get a 5770 is completely off base. With the market now moved onto the newer cards, the 5770 is extremely slow and the price to performance is pretty bad now. Infact, 5770 based on newegg canada sell right at the price point I stated for the gtx 460 but the gtx 460 768mb depending on clock is up to 250% faster. Newegg 5770 cards ($144-$169)

A 768mb gtx 460 at stock is slower then a 6850 but faster in overclock while having a lower temp and higher overclock performance potential due to 2 6 pin to 1 6pin 6850. The heat are about the same once you overclock a gtx 460 but at stock is cooler then a 6850. In the end, they even out depending on the games you wanna play so it comes down to price and preference. Like I said orginally from what I looked up, your best card at the price you asked would be the card I proposed earlier in the EVGA 768mb GTX 460.

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#10 Clipper591
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Let me make observations before the member gets off track. If the members actually took a look at the newegg.ca side of things they would have noticed that the cards they are offering are crazily over the price the TC is asking. Here is a breakdown on the cards proposed above but from newegg.ca:

1.Sapphire 6850 184.99 10.74 shipping This is 195 dollars which is 45 dollars more then the TC asked for.

2.HIS 6850 179.99 with 4.99 shipping This is 185 dollars. Again thats 35 dollars over the 150 mark the TC asked for.

3. Whoever is telling you to get a 5770 is completely off base. With the market now moved onto the newer cards, the 5770 is extremely slow and the price to performance is pretty bad now. Infact, 5770 based on newegg canada sell right at the price point I stated for the gtx 460 but the gtx 460 768mb depending on clock is up to 250% faster. Newegg 5770 cards ($144-$169)

A 768mb gtx 460 at stock is slower then a 6850 but faster in overclock while having a lower temp and higher overclock performance potential due to 2 6 pin to 1 6pin 6850. The heat are about the same once you overclock a gtx 460 but at stock is cooler then a 6850. In the end, they even out depending on the games you wanna play so it comes down to price and preference. Like I said orginally from what I looked up, your best card at the price you asked would be the card I proposed earlier in the EVGA 768mb GTX 460.

jedikevin2

but wouldnt the performance be worse since its 768 mb instead of 1gb? and just to compare my processor that i would be buying is an amd phenom 2 x4 965 be

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but wouldnt the performance be worse since its 768 mb instead of 1gb? and just to compare my processor that i would be buying is an amd phenom 2 x4 965 beClipper591

I try to budget a little more for video for that CPU. A good balance for a 965 would be a 6850 starting at about $180 or a 460 1GB SC starting at about $190.

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#12 jedikevin2
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but wouldnt the performance be worse since its 768 mb instead of 1gb? and just to compare my processor that i would be buying is an amd phenom 2 x4 965 be

Clipper591

There is alot more going on to decide upon then trying to look at Ram size. Bandwidth vs ram size vs core clock vs shader clock vs memory speed vs resolution.

Sadly, prices in Canada or really off base right now. GTX 460's 1gb looking at newegg are pretty dang high and that goes for the 6850's as well.

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#13 swehunt
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what is the best video card i can buy for under 150 dollars and prefferably nvidia so i can take advantage of physx and a link on a .ca website cuz im in canada

Clipper591

Switch out that 965 to a 955 if you havnt brougth it already, get a more expencive graphic c instead for the ~$20-30 you save. ($154 at newegg.ca for a 955.) PhysX isn't worth it, don't get a Nvidia because of that.

GTX460 768mb, HD6850, GTX460 1GB and HD6870 are all sligthly above $150 the GTS450 and HD5770 are quite a bit slower (they're below $150) and shoudn't be even considerated if you can stretch your budjet a little and get any of the below mentioned cards.

This is the pecking order of how good they are.

HD6870

GTX460 1GB

HD6850

GTX460 768mb They all perform in ~18% of eachother, HD6870 being the fastest, GTX460 768 being the slowest.

GTX460 768mb probably have the best OC headroom, it is possible to do a 18% OC on alost any gtx460 but then again all theese four cards can OC.

HD5770 have a VERY long way up to a stock HD6870 even a very long way up to the gtx460 768mb, the GTS450 a bit being slower than the HD5770 while selling at a higher price, do not get any of theese two latest ones they are priced to high considerated what you get rigth now.

In your pricerange the best thing you could do is save a bit with a cheaper CPU (if you don't already got the 965) and then look at how much you can spend.

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#14 swehunt
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[QUOTE="Clipper591"]

but wouldnt the performance be worse since its 768 mb instead of 1gb? and just to compare my processor that i would be buying is an amd phenom 2 x4 965 be

jedikevin2

There is alot more going on to decide upon then trying to look at Ram size. Bandwidth vs ram size vs core clock vs shader clock vs memory speed vs resolution.

"The size isnt the most important, it's how you use it." ;) The most limmiting factor to a gtx460 768 isn't the memory size it's the 192bit memorybus, but the performance to a gtx460 1GB isn't very big, depending on the resolution it's about 10%, 15% in the resolutions you don't want to use with a gtx460 (25xx*12xx) and about 4% in the lower resolutions that most people don't combine with a gtx460. (1024*768) that make about 8-10% in a more normal 1920*1080 resolution.
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#15 jedikevin2
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Pretty Much performance wise, you have this (This my picture and based on my own observations with overclocking in mind base on the few reviews that touch these)

Sources

  1. Legitreview Review of the 6850 and 6870 with susperclock nvidia cards tested
  2. AnandTech Review of 6850 and 6870..(use gtx 460 1gb superclocks in test)
  3. Overclock3d reviewGTX 460 768mb/1gb vs 6800 series overclock and stock.

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#16 swehunt
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Pretty Much performance wise, you have this (This my picture and based on my own observations)

(a big picture without a index)

jedikevin2

xscuse me but...

What is this homemade chart trying to show?

Most important should be a performance index, the staples show nothing as theres no marking to even know how much of a diffrence it is between them.

But yes, they all have quite impressive headroom for clocks.

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#17 jedikevin2
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A general performance chart base on overclock editions. Its just ballpark estimates. Its attempt is not to index anything but to show general correlations between overclock potential and performance vs release versions of all the gtx 460 cards (superclocks etc).
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#18 swehunt
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A general performance chart base on overclock editions. Its just ballpark estimates. Its attempt is not to index anything but to show general correlations between overclock potential and performance vs release versions of all the gtx 460 cards (superclocks etc). jedikevin2
And it's based on what? I have made some chart's to map the performance over 4 reviews with about 16 games and a few benchmarks. The cards i had were HD5770 / HD5750/ HD4870 / GTX260 / GTS250 / HD4850 it was impossible to not make a performance index because without them it was impossible to make a performance chart that were relative to the performance. Sorry, i do not want to poke on your chart but it is not corectly done and does not serve the purpose it was aimed to do. :( Make a performance index and add the cards to it, relative performance should be there, without it it's just a guess.
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#19 jedikevin2
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Um but it is a guess base on the few reviews that actually talk about the superclock. To me it does exactly whats its meant to do. Give a visual ballpack correlation between the cards. Its not meant to be anything more. The best thing to do is to actually go to the review sites to look things up which I posted a few for reference swehunt. Kinda confused on your statements as I said clear out its base on my personal feelings on it. In the end as I said sometime earlier. All the cards are in essence equal to their competititor. Some games run better on AMD, some on nvidia. .To make things worse, many reviewers did not even include the gts 460 768mb into reviews at all (very odd since the 6850 is suppose to be its competitor in the price to performance war) In the end, I would go with whatever price to performance you can find

At the time on newegg.ca (only site I personally know for canada since I live in the US), I just don't see anything their to outweigh the card I spoke to the TC about. Everything else just seems way overpriced (gtx 460 1gbs, 6850, and 6870's). If we going power concerns, go with the 6850. The 6850 is the fastest single 6 pin card out now. If you can squeeze more money somewhere then def forgo the gtx 460 768mb and look toward the 6870 and gtx 460 1gb's. That is though if you game at 1080p. If you are lower then 1920x1080 res, the gtx 460 768mb could still be a heavy hitter and could allow for better cpu, heatsink or whatever depending on TC's budget.