big dillema between agp and pci express??please help.

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#1 theuntimelyfool
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i know that pci express has bcome the norm.but are agp cards completly outdated ?i wnted to upgrde my pc but i was told tht if i bought the new 6600 etc , id hve to chnge my motherboard ,ram and processor.i told him im not willling to spend tht much so he recomended a high end 512 mb nvidia agp as i wont need to replce much else xcept for an increase in ram.see my pc was bought in 04,branded compaq(i know i will never mke the mistke of buying brnded computers again .rippoff.)ne ways i was looking for sum advice of excellent agp crds to be able to play,cs source.fear,ep 2,battlefield,2042 & 2.etc.id be thnkful for any advice,recomendation etc. im looking in the 100-120$ range and how much ram more will i need.i hve 320 rm at present.the old type(from 2004).thnx in advnce.

p.s sorry for the letters.my keyboards gone for a toss too.

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#2 theuntimelyfool
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any one please??
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#3 musclesforcier
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What are your current specs?
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#4 wklzip
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What are your current specs?musclesforcier

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#5 shoeman12
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i heard geforce might come out with agp 8 series cards. i'm in the situation as you, my pc only has an agp graphics card slot.
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#6 theuntimelyfool
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my pc

2.00 gighrts 320 ram,asus motherbord,via s36 unicrome onboard video output.

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#7 musclesforcier
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2ghz what, 320mb of ram?
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#8 fahad2mail
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320 ram? how?
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my pc

2.00 gighrts 320 ram,asus motherbord,via s36 unicrome onboard video output.

theuntimelyfool

lol wut?

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#10 BLKR4330
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320 ram? how? fahad2mail

Probably 128+256 minus 64mb shared vram. I'm guessing the 2.0 ghz is a P4.

Not worthwhile to put money in that imo, Even if you did get a good agp card (and new psu most likely), that pc will struggle with new games. Cs:s and battlefield 2 are probably just doable within that budget, if you get a cheap (second hand maybe) 6600gt or better and add 512 mb of ram (ddr 400?). Other then that, your pc is no match for current games I'm afraid.

So by no means a big dilemma; if you can afford it, go for a new pc (and pci-e).

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#11 theuntimelyfool
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by 320 i mean the amt of ram displayed when i right click on my computer.yaits 128+256.my processor is amd 2400+.i dont really care for games that will come.i just wnt to be able to play games upto 05-06 on medium settings atleast .doable?
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#12 theuntimelyfool
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ne 1 here still on agp cards and able to play games upto 05-06?
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#13 gamerjerome
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I playing games that are out now with AGP. I'm not getting more than 35 fps but there playable. 3.4Ghz P4 HT - 2GB Ram - 500Watt Ultra PSU - Geforce 7800 GS OC Core @ 470Mhz Memory @ 1349Mhz. My system it also very optimize.
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320 ram? how? fahad2mail

256+128, 128 +128+128 etc

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by 320 i mean the amt of ram displayed when i right click on my computer.yaits 128+256.my processor is amd 2400+.i dont really care for games that will come.i just wnt to be able to play games upto 05-06 on medium settings atleast .doable?
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you could look at the 6600gt agp or 7600gs agp both should be able to run 05 games without bottlenecking the cpu to bad, anything more is overkill

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#16 theuntimelyfool
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from wat all of you are sayin it seems worthless to upgrade my pc.id be bak in the same place in a couple of months.i guess i should just replce my entire system then.it ws for this same reason i had bought an xbox in 04 wen i saw tat farcry,doom3 & half life 2 were comin to it.i swear i dunno how i fell into the noob trap by compaqs deal.never buy ready made.tat pc i have cost 540$ in sep 04.but it does hv a gr8 moniter & speakers.
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#17 GabrielVan
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I bought an HP computer from Best Buy, and within a year I've rebuilt it piece by piece into an entirely different system. No matter what the situation, you will always get a more powerful system for less money if you build it yourself. If you're a gamer, never buy pre-made, it IS a big mistake, and you'll pay for it in the end (Just like I have - $1600 inone year for just an O.K. system!)