Blizzard Copying Warhammer?

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#1 crazymaghie123
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So I've decided to make this thread in response to all the "Blizzard copied Warhammer" urban myths. My question is, why the heck would Blizzard start Warcraft games and Starcraft Games to be Warhammer titles without even having the license in the first place.

It just doesn't add up to me..I mean, if Blizzard lost their rights or didn't have rights to warhammer in the first place while making warcraft would they then turn and say oh well you know what I'm just going to make warhammer 40k and hope that we some how secure the rights to the franchise this time around. It just sounds simply illogical and blizzard is not that stupid.

It seems that the only thing people could say that was really copied was common fantasy archetypes and I'm sorry but warhammer didn't not create elves and dwarfs. Blizzard guys probably all played DnD and Warhammer games and got inspiration but in no way did they try and make a warhammer game two times to have their license revoked.

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#2 Gammit10
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Your logic......Reality

so far apart

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#3 kieran88
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Man, it's pretty common knowlege that warcraft copied warhammer to a large extent. You only have to look at it, and its origins. I don't see what the big deal is... Sure they may have basicaly just copied certain things but it's all business.
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#4 Lonelynight
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Man, it's pretty common knowlege that warcraft copied warhammer to a large extent. You only have to look at it, and its origins. I don't see what the big deal is... Sure they may have basicaly just copied certain things but it's all business.kieran88

I think Blizzard even shows openly that they copy from Warhammer.

And what does it matter anyway, War copied from Lotr and lotr copied from other mythology.

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#5 JangoWuzHere
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I wonder who even cares really people like to use other people idea's. its not copying really because we all know halo made that shield recharge thing and a certain idea like that was implanted in Call of duty 4
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#6 aliblabla2007
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Warhammer/40k isn't exactly original.

Also, people need to stop crying about new things taking inspiration from older things.

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#7 deactivated-5920bf77daa85
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[QUOTE="kieran88"]Man, it's pretty common knowlege that warcraft copied warhammer to a large extent. You only have to look at it, and its origins. I don't see what the big deal is... Sure they may have basicaly just copied certain things but it's all business.Lonelynight

I think Blizzard even shows openly that they copy from Warhammer.

And what does it matter anyway, War copied from Lotr and lotr copied from other mythology.

Interestingly, Tolkien did seem to invent the Orc, at least as fantasy uses it.

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#8 cole_793
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they may have compied, but while doing that they produced game 10x better, and more sucessful. copying isn't always bad if you can make it much better than what you took it from.
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#9 Expo_Smacko
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I like Warcraft more.
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#10 IZoMBiEI
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warcraft 1 was originally a warhammer game, but about halfway through the devs ran outta money and blizzard took over the project for them and renamed it warcraft. thats why people say blizzard copied warhammer. but really who the hell cares.
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#11 BSC14
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they may have compied, but while doing that they produced game 10x better, and more sucessful. copying isn't always bad if you can make it much better than what you took it from.cole_793

Very true that Blizzard made an amazing game for sure....10x better...well we will have to see. That really just sounds like a fanboy statment to me but whatever....

That said the way I understand it is that Blizzard tried to buy the Warhammer name/title/lore and all that crap but the deal didn't go through so they made their own Warhammer and called it Warcraft.

Wahammer came out in the 1983 as a war game...see here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle

Then turned into roleplaying game in 1987....see here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_(setting)

Warcraft started in 1994 as a rts game and I don't think there had been a Warhammer game at that point because Warhammer 40k rts came out in 2004.

I don't know all the lore of the games but from what I understand Blizzard used a lot of the Warhammer story in Warcraft. So I can't say if that's true or not but that's just what I have been told. Either way I don't care I'm a fan of both games and will have enjoyed years of good gaming no matter who got what from who else.

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#12 BSC14
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I like Warcraft more. Expo_Smacko

After 548 hours I'm sure you do.

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#13 Erlkoenig
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warcraft 1 was originally a warhammer game, but about halfway through the devs ran outta money and blizzard took over the project for them and renamed it warcraft. thats why people say blizzard copied warhammer. but really who the hell cares.IZoMBiEI

Source or I call BS. What was the name of this dev house that Blizzard took over?

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#14 BSC14
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http://tholal.blogspot.com/2007/07/warhammer-vs-warcraft-very-brief.html

^ A blog I ran into but doesn't make it fact.

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#15 Expo_Smacko
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[QUOTE="Expo_Smacko"]I like Warcraft more. BSC14

After 548 hours I'm sure you do.

Haha, and say to the people that have over 5k hours on theres too..

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#16 Erlkoenig
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^ If that was directed at me, it has nothing to do with my post.
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#17 fatshodan
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Warhammer/40k isn't exactly original.

Also, people need to stop crying about new things taking inspiration from older things.

aliblabla2007

The thing about GW stuff is that while each individual element of their universes is not super original, they draw from dozens upon dozens of different sources and combine it all to make something that is original as a whole.

Blizzard on the other hand drew from pretty much just one source.

Personally, I don't care - my only problem is when idiots start saying that Relic is copying Blizzard. I haven't seen anyone call tyranids a zerg clone yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

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#18 WDT-BlackKat
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Your logic......Reality

so far apart

Gammit10

Quoted for great justice.

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#20 crazymaghie123
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[QUOTE="Gammit10"]

Your logic......Reality

so far apart

WDT-BlackKat

Quoted for great justice.

I'm not really sure what that means..I'm not really sure what I said that seems so far from "reality"...I wasn't talking about black holes or inter dimension travel I was talking about a video game designer called blizzard and some "urban legends" people have been talking about..

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#21 Fuzzy_Bear123
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Warhammer/40k isn't exactly original.

Also, people need to stop crying about new things taking inspiration from older things.

aliblabla2007

Exactly, people build off of other people's ideas.

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#22 JP_Russell
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My understanding is that Warcraft was just inspired by Warhammer (heavily), while Starcraft was in fact originally meant to be a WH40K game (I'd guess they wanted to go further than a game inspired by a Warhammer universe that they liked so much, and actually make a game that is in that universe with Starcraft). But they lost the license somehow, so they changed various things around and released it as their own game and their own universe. Either way, both franchises are very strongly influenced by Warhammer Fantasy and 40,000, which Blizzard has admitted to before, themselves.
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#23 capthavic
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I say who cares if something is copied? Everything, movies, TV, games ,etc. copies (to some extent) from something else. And if they do a good job does it really matter?
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#24 Elann2008
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Warhammer/40k isn't exactly original.

Also, people need to stop crying about new things taking inspiration from older things.

aliblabla2007

Exactly. And World of Warcraft did a mighty fine job taking those inspirations to fuel their games. If it happened that way, I'm glad because World of Warcraft has an amazing story and lore. Even though I no longer play WoW, it was awesome while it lasted. WoW cinematics give me chills, they're so awesome.

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#25 deactivated-61d84d87dcc8a
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Warhammer/40k isn't exactly original.

Also, people need to stop crying about new things taking inspiration from older things.

aliblabla2007

I like that word... "inspiration"

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#26 SimpJee
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I'll tell you what WoW copied from the game WAR, for a fact. You guys notice achievements/logging kills/where you've been recently? Yeah that's a copy of WAR's Tome of Knowledge. If it's not out now in WoW, the newest expansion has it.
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#27 Shanks_D_Chop
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I'm on the same page as most people here.

Big Warhammer fan, not so keen on Warcraft... but to say they copied it? That's just ridiculous. Yeah, it's inspiration. I think the only truth in it is that Warhammer is kinda responsible for Orks being green.

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#28 1005
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I think the problem is people use the word copy or ripped off when comparing Warcraft to Warhammer.

I prefer to think Blizzard took inspiration from Warhammer but honestly it doesn't bother me to be honest. Warhammer is still superior and it only ever pisses me off when i see people say Warhammer copied Blizzard...