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#1 gogators4life
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Hello Gamespot forum members, so we got Blizzard RTS games VS Relic RTS games. This is the final showdown. Basically, which one do you prefer. :D

Blizzard RTS games include,

* Starcraft series
* Warcraft series

VS

Relic RTS games, which include,

* Dawn of War series
* Company of Heroes series
* Homeworld series

As for me, I prefer Relic, cause I am not a big fan of Diablo or Warcraft. Even though Blizzard customer support is one of the best(which makes their games last longer.) So to me, the only Blizzard RTS game I play is Starcraft. As for Relic, I love Dawn of War series, I got Dark Crusade, which is AWESOME!!!!!!. COH is damn good, it's expansion pack is going to be off the hook. I heard rumors DOW 2 is already in devlopment.

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#2 el_carl
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I think blizzard is overrated. Also, my friend won't be quiet about blizzard. Although, he does only have macs.
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#3 MrGeo24
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good topic, as much as i love blizzard i got to go with relic on this one. Dawn of War and Company of Heroes were just so revolutionary for the genre and are outstanding games.
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#4 Erlkoenig
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Blizzard.
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#5 deactivated-59d151f079814
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They are both great companies..

What really grinds me raw about Relic becuase I tend to like their games a bit more is their multiplayer is absolute crap.. It gives you hardly any game play chocies and a limited amount of maps.. Starcraft community alone outnumbers all of their communities already..

This gets worse with the fact that Dawn of War for isntance are top vs bottom massive battles.. Which isn't anything wrong about it, but watching the same animations thousands of times gets boring... The resource system for especially Dawn of War is limited due to the fact to be fair it has to be symeterical meaning no twisted level designs like system unrest where the game can fundmentally change depending on where yoru spot is by enviroment alone..

I am by no means ripping on Relic I tend to playt heir games more then Blizzards, BUT they just squander so much potential they have in numerous places at times.. Dawn of War being the most recent blunder that could have made AAA if it had a meaningful multiplayer.. Same goes for homeworld where absolutly NO one plays on line.

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#6 TheCrazed420
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Relic for me. Homeworld is my favorite RTS of all time.
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#7 Marfoo
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Well I liked Starcraft... tried playing Warcraft III, didn't like it as much... Then I found Homeworld! It was everything I dreamed of in an RTS, then I saw Homeworld 2, the first game I ever upgraded my PC for just to play, and now with my current rig I have played some Company of Heroes, not much, I don't own the game, but it was good fun, and I have yet to try the Dawn of War series.
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#8 baddogjmh
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I own all those games you listed. I love them in each in their own way. Both have their own gaming elements. I am a hardcore fan of the DoW series.
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#9 HardcoreKiller2
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That is a tough question.

Both Blizzard and Relic have great RTS games. But I'm going to go with Relic, even though Blizzard is one of my favorite developers.

If Relic keeps making great RTS games like Dawn of War, Company of Heroes, and Homeworld, they could be the next Blizzard in the RTS genre. IMO.

But one thing Relic needs to improve on is the Multiplayer, the singleplayer is great, but the multiplayer isn't.

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#10 Doom_HellKnight
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I own all of the games listed, as the above user does. I must say, I am a huge fan of Relic entertainment. Right from their beginning with the revolutionary Homeworld, which IMO, has one of the greatest storylines ever created.
I've followed them through to Impossible creatures and now Dawn of War and Company of Heroes which are two of the greatest RTS games one could possibly buy.
I'm a fan of Blizzard's Starcraft and Warcraft games but for me, Relic Entertainment is the winner here.
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#11 gogators4life
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Dawn of war is just simply amazing. :D
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#12 gamerchris810
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Seeing as blizzard havent made any other games except WoW for a LONG time, its got to be relic besides dawn of war and CoH just own the RTS.

WoW is fun though i must admit.

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#13 Master_Kev
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I love dawn of war and i like warcraft but i like dawn of war better so relic has my vote.
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#14 Baal_Sagoth
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Both companies released outstanding titles, but especially if you limit the choice to the RTS games (and thus discount the Diablo Series) my answer is obvious:

RELIC!

DoW alone is more fun to me than any of the Blizzard RTS games. Add CoH to that (didn't play Homeworld) and my choice is clear.

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#15 UmustSEEthis
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RELIC!!!!!!

Blizzard is old!!!

PS: don`t forget to see this::shock:

http://world5.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=59210680

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#16 XxSPAZxX
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i been playing warcraft for the longest of ANY GAME i still play it :p so blizzardgot my vote anyways i didn't like DoW that much i like CoH but it can no where compare to how much i love WC3
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#17 naval
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Blizzard !!!

for me nothing beats, starcraft in multiplayer and Warcraft 3 in singleplayer

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#18 THGarrett
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I would say Relic just for Company of Heroes, but I'm going with Blizzard because they know how to create an invigorating indepth story such with WC3 and Frozen Throne.
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#19 Fidel1923
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Westwood Studio :D
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#20 madrocketeer
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R.I.P. As for the main topic: a tough one, as I disagree with the core gameplay concept of the games developed by both companies. But I'm going to have to say Relic - not because I like them more, but because I disagree with them less than I do with Blizzard.
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#21 t3h_MarK
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The only blizzard has got running for itself RTS-wise is starcraft which i played a lot in ladder matches, WC3 is total crap, 90 pop cap my ass.

Relic on the other has a lot more diversity, i love homeworld 1, cataclysm and 2, DOW especially dark crusade is top notch, COH is really well put together. Relic unlike Blizzard innovates noth in gameplay AND TECHNOLOGY. They push the boundaries of what was tought possible.

Relic is the better RTS developer

Though Blizzard could live on WoW for a good 10 more years, and that time you'll probably have WoD for diablo (the logical evolution).

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#22 Cait-Sith
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Relic's games are much more fun, but I kinda like the Warcraft series ... bit of a toss up for me.
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#23 Alwaysrun
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Relic by a mile. Blizzard hasn't had an original RTS game premise since 1998 when Vivendi Universal games division gobbled them up. I always enjoyed Relic games much more because they push the envelope into new game environments, interfaces, and graphics while Blizz just updates old ideas over and over.
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#24 Lidve
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WC3 is total crap, 90 pop cap my ass.t3h_MarK

[pls excuse my bad english]

Warcraft is great game,and the reason why u cant build 8536 units is because its more focused on skill,micromanagment and macromanagment,than just massing units and putting them to queue.

Than warcraft have awesome custom made maps&mods-which are sometimes DIFFERENT genre.There are maps that include racing(yeah driving cars,something like mario cart),snake-like games,even mmorgp alike games,old school arcade-like games and even CHESS!Yeah real chess with AI and multiplayer that is bether than most chess games i played.

Than not forget Awesome game optimization which can run great on cheap machines and low internet connection,great and unmached multiplayer,great support,great singleplayer,great tournaments,incredible musicand ONE OF THE BEST cinematics ever...

Dont forget one of the most user-friendly and still one of most complex World Editors that can be used to create maps and modsin even different genre (as i said there are allready chess,racing,paintball,rpg,..maps)

Thats hell a lot of things for one strategy game that is just 2 cd's.

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#25 Jinroh_basic
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definitely Relic. i love every game they released on pc so far, except Impossible Creature.

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#26 Lidve
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WC3 is total crap, 90 pop cap my asst3h_MarK

Yeah i forgot to mention that there are singleplayer and multiplayer maps for Warcraft 3 in which u can have literally unlimited numbers of units.Or sometimes there are maps where u have just 1 hero who is surviving waves ofmillions of units.Sometimes there are so many units on screen,that PC-s that arent good enough stops responding or smthing like that.Thats because whole screen is filled with troops and special effects. :D

So if someone like to mass army and stuff like that-there are maps for that

If someone dont like Elves and mystical beings used in warcraft-there are maps and mods where u use Modern robots or ww2 tanks.

There are maps where u fight with your favourite heroes like Spiderman,X-man,Anime Characters(dragonball,naruto,akira..)

There are even porn maps -.-

Warcraft 3 is one of largest modding communities which equals==== Thousands and thousands hours of fun and joy

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#27 drummerzzz
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But even you use modding, you're not changing the gameplay, and how you've play it... anyway, in my opinion Relic bring a fresh air for RTS gamers... First time, I wasn't that happy about their games, but after I played it for 2-3 times, I begin to love it, now I'm still playing it and I really like it!!
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#28 Skullheart
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Blizzard is overrated. I do suppose they have good storylines, but I just prefer Relic's games.
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#29 beckoflight
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I won't vote because they both are the 2 leading RTS developers out there !!! I mean STARCRAFT revolutinzed the genre .... than RELIC created another genre in 1999 with HOMEWORLD 3d RTS .... than again blizzard with RTS/RPG warcraft 3 .....& now again RELIC with Warhhammer , COH tactical & capturing position points ..... & next year again Blizzard with Starcraft 2 alltough it dosen't bring anything new to the genre except some minorchanges it will sure break the market .... & WHO KNOWS what Relic is keeping in secret last time i've heard they were working on an MMO to ! I like them both !
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#30 apanizo
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Bllizzard for competitive gameplay, Relic for graphics. Blizzard = ftw.
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#31 captalchol
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blizzard, capturing territories on a map isn't really that revolutionary...
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#32 johnnyb47
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Such a comparison will be reduced in my book to Starcraft and Warcraft vs. Homeworld and Company of Heroes, as I haven't played any RTS belonging to a different franchise owned by either Blizzard (because there's none) or Relic.

While I definitely appreciate Blizzard for their commitment to both Warcraft and Starcraft, as well as for delivering top-noch content that's easy to pick up and play for a long time, I'll have to go with Relic because they managed time and time again to revolutionize a whole lot of concepts with both Homeworld and Company of Heroes. Homeworld is pretty unique to date, with some games having tried and failed to emulate it, and the jury is still out for deciding whether any Company of Heroes clones, should they appear at all, score a bigger success than the original. Most of all though, I voted for Relic because both of their RTS's hold some of the most memorable moments I've ever experienced in a strategy game, while most of my recollections of both Starcraft and Warcraft are blurry at best.

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#33 thesarge123
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blizzard all the way
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#34 Hondo189
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Westwood Studio :DFidel1923

I miss Westwood, Red Alert was a masterpiece.

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#35 Lord_DoDo56
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Looks like Relic wins by a longshot
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#37 KyanMehwulfe
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Blizzard. Relic is quickly coming on par, but they need a few more years of quality before they can match Blizzard. They're doing so in a number of ways, though; I've striked and discussed it a couple times over the last year or two. Big name War franchise? Awesome CGI movies? Strong RTS focus? Great multiplayer? Et cetera.
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#38 -Rivfader-
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Relic games might be innovative but they fail to do their job for me. That is provide hours worth of RTS fun. I found myself dozing off trying to play DoW online. Company of Heroes was just a WW2 version of DoW and I felt the same way about it. Acctually come to think of it Blizzard is the only company that has made RTS games that I acctually play. I really dislike the genre but there is something about the Blizzard RTS gamesthat is really fun to me.

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#39 Xshinobi
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Blizzard by a mile.
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#41 Johnny_Rock
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blizzard, capturing territories on a map isn't really that revolutionary...captalchol

And neither is chopping down trees.

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#42 Staryoshi87
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CoH all the way :)
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#43 Cyph91
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Blizzard by far, I got Starcraft when it was released 9 years agoand I still play it now
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#44 TA127
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I realy prefer Blizzard cuz i hate Warhammerandprefer Starcraft and Warcraft on COH by a lot.

The problem with Blizzard is that they don't realy like to make games...we they should do a lot more....

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#45 captalchol
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[QUOTE="captalchol"]blizzard, capturing territories on a map isn't really that revolutionary...Johnny_Rock

And neither is chopping down trees.

I found heroes in warcraft 3 to more interesting and fun than trying to control positions on a map. Maybe I was wrong to question the revolutionaryness of relic but I've played blizzard RTS's for combined a few thousand hours and relics games for maybe 10 before I got tired of them.

Also, how many people are playing CoH online right now maybe 1000? how many are playing warcraft 3..at least 100,000 on all the servers.

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#46 Anthony9000
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RELIC FTW!!!!

impossible creatures is the best rts of all time

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#47 foggy666
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played all those games. warcraft 1, warcraft 2, starcraft, homeworld with 3d combat and great music and story. warcraft 3, DoW which was absolutly amazing, then Dark Crusade. When I'll get my new computer I'll definitely play CoH. Well now we just need to wait till Starcraft 2 comes out (the truth? it looks like the original starcraft, just better graphics and new units, but can't judge only by video clips...)
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#48 Nick-42
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Blizzard for me.
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#49 treytakahashi
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Blizzard games are fun and they are also one of the origonals in RTS gaming, right next to the former Westwood studios. I say Relic is better They have brought back the RTS games. Its a tough choice. It all depends on what tipe of RTS you like Gold farming or Command post/points
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#50 mohan88
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Go Relic. :D