Borderlands online, any chance of a patch?

As many of you probably know, there are alot of people including myself who can't play borderlands online without having to open up specific router ports, anyone know if gearbox can (and will) try to fix this or is it just a big "**** you to the pc community?

How is this a big issue at all? Just port forward. It's so redic easy. They shouldn't have to support upnp, though it would be nice.

1. port forwarding isn't working for everyone 2. we shouldn't have to port forward 3. they are working on patchesdjmillard2

Also UpNp is a security risk, since it can autoportforward without authentication. I am against upnp.

i can connect to anyone :? why do people find port forwarding so difficult? Dante2710

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]i can connect to anyone :? why do people find port forwarding so difficult? JigglyWiggly_

If I try and join a hosted game, the program just hangs. I'm not behind a router, so I don't need to forward any ports. This is in need of patching.

I'm sure patches are coming just like DLC.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]i can connect to anyone :? why do people find port forwarding so difficult? JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]i can connect to anyone :? why do people find port forwarding so difficult? JigglyWiggly_

Irrelevant, it still screams sloppy design. Someone shouldn't have to bother port forwarding to play a game online when most games work without a hitch, not to mention it doesn't always work.

Why defend poor work? If i was making some game that focused around coop play so much i'd make damn sure that playing online with friends was as stream lined and as easy as possible.

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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]i can connect to anyone :? why do people find port forwarding so difficult? the_mitch28

Irrelevant, it still screams sloppy design. Someone shouldn't have to bother port forwarding to play a game online when most games work without a hitch, not to mention it doesn't always work.

Why defend poor work? If i was making some game that focused around coop play so much i'd make damn sure that playing online with friends was as stream lined and as easy as possible.

Because UpNp is a security risk, it's stupid, it shouldn't exist without some sort of authentication.JigglyWiggly_

Didn't have any trouble in Dawn of War 2 or creating a listen server in L4D. And it's fine me and my friends forwarded our ports and the game works sometimes, so I guess it's ok.

Didn't have any trouble in Dawn of War 2 or creating a listen server in L4D. And it's fine me and my friends forwarded our ports and the game works sometimes, so I guess it's ok.

the_mitch28

I thought you said it was because of P2P and DoW2 (at least the new game mode not sure about the others) is P2P matchmaking and I didn't have any troubles getting that to work, you said the trouble was because it was like hosting your own server... well when I hosted a listen server for L4D I had no troubles either.

I'm just saying it's easy to include a multiplayer system that works for the majority of people. Sure people will always have problems but the amount of people who can't play this game online just isn't right.

I thought you said it was because of P2P and DoW2 (at least the new game mode not sure about the others) is P2P matchmaking and I didn't have any troubles getting that to work, you said the trouble was because it was like hosting your own server... well when I hosted a listen server for L4D I had no troubles either.

I'm just saying it's easy to include a multiplayer system that works for the majority of people. Sure people will always have problems but the amount of people who can't play this game online just isn't right.

the_mitch28

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Because UpNp is a security risk, it's stupid, it shouldn't exist without some sort of authentication.zomglolcats

People in this thread, know very little about networking, I mean really really really little.

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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]i can connect to anyone :? why do people find port forwarding so difficult? the_mitch28

Irrelevant, it still screams sloppy design. Someone shouldn't have to bother port forwarding to play a game online when most games work without a hitch, not to mention it doesn't always work.

Why defend poor work? If i was making some game that focused around coop play so much i'd make damn sure that playing online with friends was as stream lined and as easy as possible.

Have you ever seen any professional grade router have upnp enabled? If even an option? No. It shouldn't exist. (Unless they built in authentication into it)

There is a solution though, it's called DPWS, much better, but very little supports this protocal.

if everybody is too idiotic to port forward... unplug your router and directly connect to your pc from your modem. You now have no ports to worry about!

if everybody is too idiotic to port forward... unplug your router and directly connect to your pc from your modem. You now have no ports to worry about!

simardbrad

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if everybody is too idiotic to port forward... unplug your router and directly connect to your pc from your modem. You now have no ports to worry about!

IZoMBiEI

if your rez blocks ports you won't be able to connect to steam in the first place... I lived in rez last year and I had to buy off-site internet so I could actually use it...

Why can't they port forward? Just give them your router details if you trust them. Also people living in groups, UpNp should never be allowed.JigglyWiggly_

Your insane stop trying to run everyone's life. BOTTOM LINE UPNp should be an option for people, in the event they can't forward ports. If you pay 50 bucks for a game then you should be allwowed to make the decision yourself.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Why can't they port forward? Just give them your router details if you trust them. Also people living in groups, UpNp should never be allowed.Bobfol

Your insane stop trying to run everyone's life. BOTTOM LINE UPNp should be an option for people, in the event they can't forward ports. If you pay 50 bucks for a game then you should be allwowed to make the decision yourself.

you paid $50 for the game... you can play the game fine. It is up to players to learn how to modify their network settings to HOST GAMES. IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT!!!! IF YOU WANT TO HOST, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PORTS OPEN! If UPNP is always enabled I can make an application that easily opens all of your ports using UPNP and streams your IP address to a server so hackers can easily get into your pc. UPNP is very unsecure.

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Why can't they port forward? Just give them your router details if you trust them. Also people living in groups, UpNp should never be allowed.simardbrad

Your insane stop trying to run everyone's life. BOTTOM LINE UPNp should be an option for people, in the event they can't forward ports. If you pay 50 bucks for a game then you should be allwowed to make the decision yourself.

you paid $50 for the game... you can play the game fine. It is up to players to learn how to modify their network settings to HOST GAMES. IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT!!!! IF YOU WANT TO HOST, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PORTS OPEN! If UPNP is always enabled I can make an application that easily opens all of your ports using UPNP and streams your IP address to a server so hackers can easily get into your pc. UPNP is very unsecure.

Oh wow.... you elitests are so big... so powerful... your skills are beyond compare, we don't deserve to exist in the same forums as you, or to question your godly status as experts of the router.

LOL... you are all so transparent, people who talk big on forums and put others down have no sense of power in the real world, but hey thank god for the internet right, now you can puff up your chests and be a "virtual man"

To those of you having issues with Borderlands like I was, who tried portforwarding, but it just didn't work, your ports wouldn't open for whatever reason... or you just don't have that option..... use www.gameranger.com I used it, and within minutes I was hosting my own game that people can actually join without any of this port forwarding crap.

[QUOTE="simardbrad"]

[QUOTE="Bobfol"]

Your insane stop trying to run everyone's life. BOTTOM LINE UPNp should be an option for people, in the event they can't forward ports. If you pay 50 bucks for a game then you should be allwowed to make the decision yourself.

whatisazerg

you paid $50 for the game... you can play the game fine. It is up to players to learn how to modify their network settings to HOST GAMES. IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT!!!! IF YOU WANT TO HOST, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PORTS OPEN! If UPNP is always enabled I can make an application that easily opens all of your ports using UPNP and streams your IP address to a server so hackers can easily get into your pc. UPNP is very unsecure.

Oh wow.... you elitests are so big... so powerful... your skills are beyond compare, we don't deserve to exist in the same forums as you, or to question your godly status as experts of the router.

LOL... you are all so transparent, people who talk big on forums and put others down have no sense of power in the real world, but hey thank god for the internet right, now you can puff up your chests and be a "virtual man"

To those of you having issues with Borderlands like I was, who tried portforwarding, but it just didn't work, your ports wouldn't open for whatever reason... or you just don't have that option..... use www.gameranger.com I used it, and within minutes I was hosting my own game that people can actually join without any of this port forwarding crap.

[QUOTE="Bobfol"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Why can't they port forward? Just give them your router details if you trust them. Also people living in groups, UpNp should never be allowed.simardbrad

Your insane stop trying to run everyone's life. BOTTOM LINE UPNp should be an option for people, in the event they can't forward ports. If you pay 50 bucks for a game then you should be allwowed to make the decision yourself.

you paid $50 for the game... you can play the game fine. It is up to players to learn how to modify their network settings to HOST GAMES. IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT!!!! IF YOU WANT TO HOST, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PORTS OPEN! If UPNP is always enabled I can make an application that easily opens all of your ports using UPNP and streams your IP address to a server so hackers can easily get into your pc. UPNP is very unsecure.

But of course you can.

I think the main thing people seem to be missing is that the Port Forwarding is a direct result of the use of Gamespy for the online component. I'm not quite sure that Gearbox can just patch out Gamespy.kieranb2000