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#1 Mystic-G
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So I just got GTA4 and after playing it for a few minutes my screen goes black and my monitor loses signal with my computer. I see the HDD light on still so I figure it hadn't locked up yet so I'll see what it does. So I hear a beep (not the post code for the ram), then my computer restarts then I hear the post code beep. I come to get back on windows xp.

The error report said I BSOD.
http://wer.microsoft.com/responses/Response.aspx/11/en-us/5.1.2600.2.00010100.3.0?SGD=86d01fc4-6689-4626-9126-7f0e8f6d0a3c#here

I've never encountered such an interesting problem. It seems like my video card locked up trying to play it. I let the game choose the graphic settings for me so it wouldn't be too demanding.

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CPU - Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0Ghz
Video card - 8800GTS 640MB (driver ver. 197.45)
RAM - 2GBs
OS - XP
PSU - OCZ 600w
Mobo - Asus P5QL/EPU

Any thoughts?

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it's not actually BSOD if you don't see the actual blue screen. Windows is giving that message propably after any kind of crash. did you get temps from CPU and GPU?
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#3 Mystic-G
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it's not actually BSOD if you don't see the actual blue screen. Windows is giving that message propably after any kind of crash. did you get temps from CPU and GPU?groowagon
Nah, I don't see how I could have got their temps, I wasn't monitoring it. I know if my CPU overheated I would have received a BIOS error message on start-up though. And I couldn't have seen a blue screen anyway if there was one because my monitor lost signal with my computer for a short period of time (20 seconds) before reboot.

I just played a couple rounds of CoD4, seems to be going smoothly with that.

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#4 sapetto
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The settings the game itself choose are far away from NOT demanding, better change them by yourself. And why dont you check if there is a newer driver for your videocard

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The settings the game itself choose are far away from NOT demanding, better change them by yourself. And why dont you check if there is a newer driver for your videocard

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I have the second to the newest driver. My current driver is like 2-1/2 months old. I highly doubt that Nvidia somehow resolved this issue one driver version later. (not trying to be a smartass) Well most games tend to choose VERY modest settings for you to use so I assumed that would be a safe bet. I can lower it but it saddens me everytime to see my computer crash.
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#6 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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blow the dust out from your rig, especially from GPU heatsinks. it helped my 8800GT keep going again without crashes :) e: you said CoD works, but i might be because it's not that demanding. i played BF2 mostly, and after i started playing Crysis Warhed, i had a crash every time after few minutes of playing.
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blow the dust out from your rig, especially from GPU heatsinks. it helped my 8800GT keep going again without crashes :)groowagon
My video card is brand spanking new clean. I got it as a RMA replacement a couple days ago. However, I have no issues playing my other games so I would imagine it rules out the possibility of it being defective (thankfully). It's current idle temp is 54c so cooling shouldn't be too bad.

I have the Crysis demo I can play to see. My old 8800GTS 320MB handled it pretty well as long I wasn't alt+tabbing in and out of game. I also played World in Conflict which is a lot more demanding than BF2 or CoD4.

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[QUOTE="groowagon"]blow the dust out from your rig, especially from GPU heatsinks. it helped my 8800GT keep going again without crashes :)Mystic-G
My video card is brand spanking new clean. I got it as a RMA replacement a couple days ago. However, I have no issues playing my other games so I would imagine it rules out the possibility of it being defective (thankfully).

defective card can mean that it has just one defective component that can't take as much heat than it should. you should seriously monitor your temps to see if that causes it after a certain point. i wouldn't wonder if it would just be GTAIV, though.... but if it ever happens in any other game, you know it's your card. btw, make sure you're not using the NVIDIA "card killer" drivers, that had problems keeping the fan spinning.
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="groowagon"]blow the dust out from your rig, especially from GPU heatsinks. it helped my 8800GT keep going again without crashes :)groowagon
My video card is brand spanking new clean. I got it as a RMA replacement a couple days ago. However, I have no issues playing my other games so I would imagine it rules out the possibility of it being defective (thankfully).

defective card can mean that it has just one defective component that can't take as much heat than it should. you should seriously monitor your temps to see if that causes it after a certain point. i wouldn't wonder if it would just be GTAIV, though.... but if it ever happens in any other game, you know it's your card. btw, make sure you're not using the NVIDIA "card killer" drivers, that had problems keeping the fan spinning.

Yea I've read about those. I don't seem to be using one from what I read and I am reading that Nvidia ripped it or them from their site which mine is still up there. I'll try playing Crysis and see what happens, if it doesn't lock up playing it then I can only assume it's GTA4 and will ask for a refund from Steam if they give any.
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#10 Mystic-G
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I played both WiC and Crysis for a few minutes. My GPU temp seems to max out at 75/76C from what I see. Not sure how dangerously high that is, but I didn't crash. I probably played Crysis and GTA4 for the same amount of time and I had Crysis on almost all High settings to boot. I'd find it hard to believe that GTA4 is somehow more graphically demanding on medium/low settings unless the coding is THAT poor.

Edit: To note my card is 'Superclocked' shipped from the factory. Not sure if that's worth knowing.

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Crysis is more demanding on the GPU, but GTAIV is more demanding on the CPU and ram. Just thought i'd point that out. Not sure of your problem though if Crysis works fine.

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#12 kraken2109
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Crysis is more demanding on the GPU, but GTAIV is more demanding on the CPU and ram. Just thought i'd point that out. Not sure of your problem though if Crysis works fine. Although GTA may be using more Vram.

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Crysis is more demanding on the GPU, but GTAIV is more demanding on the CPU and ram. Just thought i'd point that out. Not sure of your problem though if Crysis works fine.

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Well I thought hearing 2 different beeps between the computer crash and computer restart my signify something. I'm not sure what the first beep was but it sounded slightly different from the post code for the ram.

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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Crysis is more demanding on the GPU, but GTAIV is more demanding on the CPU and ram. Just thought i'd point that out. Not sure of your problem though if Crysis works fine.

Mystic-G

Well I thought hearing 2 different beeps between the computer crash and computer restart my signify something. I'm not sure what the first beep was but it sounded slightly different from the post code for the ram.

Just a thought: the first beep may have been from your graphics card, which could indicate it's not getting enough power.

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#15 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Crysis is more demanding on the GPU, but GTAIV is more demanding on the CPU and ram. Just thought i'd point that out. Not sure of your problem though if Crysis works fine.

broken_bass_bin

Well I thought hearing 2 different beeps between the computer crash and computer restart my signify something. I'm not sure what the first beep was but it sounded slightly different from the post code for the ram.

Just a thought: the first beep may have been from your graphics card, which could indicate it's not getting enough power.

Well it should be, I've never had a problem with that. I can still manage to play other games without issue. I just remembered when I was playing GTA4 that time I did have firefox open for a while and that along with the new plugincontainer.exe it has, all the other processes that were running were probably using close to a GB of ram and I only have 2 GBs. I dunno how much GTA4 uses. IF all my RAM got ate up between them would such a issue a result happen?