Building a new setup - Suggestions?

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#1 emistz
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Hey guys, I'm putting together a new setup, mostly for gaming, programming and some light video editing. I would like to hear if you guys have any suggestions regarding the setup, and if there's anything different you can recommend. My budge is about 4,000 or so. This is what I got so far: 2 x 2TB WD Red WD20EFRX Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ64GX3M8A1600C9) KingWin Lazer Power Supply 1000 Watts with Universal Modular Connectors/3 Way LED Switch/80 Plus Bronze ATX 1000 Power Supply LZ-1000 Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX PCIE Sound Card SB1350 NZXT Aperture M Internal 5.25-Inch Mesh Card Reader with 2x USB 3.0 (8c-aper000-w0b) Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 OC 4GB GDDR5 DVI-I/DVI-D/HDMI/Displayport PCI-Express 3.0 SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N680OC-4GD NZXT Crafted Series ATX Full Tower Steel Chassis - Phantom White with Red Trim Computer Case CS-NT-PHAN-WNR White/Red Gigabyte LGA 2011 DDR3 2133 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard GA-X79-UP4 Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011 - BX80619I73930K 3 x ViewSonic VA2451M-LED 24-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor 1 x Samsung MD32B 32 LED Monitor 16:9 8ms 1920x1080 5000:1 DVI/HDMI/VGA/USB Speaker Is there anything you guys suggest I do differently? I'm open to all kinds of ideas.
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#2 Laythrom
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To each their own for everything; personally, I went with an AMD 8 core processor for my gaming/normal rig and went with dual Xeons for my workhorse. Even though I am a definately an Intel fan...sometimes their prices urk me. I am also more of a fan of the CoolerMaster HAF case due to the high airflow possibilities (I like the ability to have a larger fan size at lower RPMs to help cut down on fan noise). But honestly, looking at your build list...everything looks pretty good.

 

[edit] depending on what you get into (in the future) you can research Tesla cards. Although they are still expensive, if you get a lot out of them.

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#3 GTR12
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That is extremely mismatched, your rig is all over the place.

Drop down to 16GB RAM,

Better PSU (Antec, Corsair are my suggestions)

1 GTX 680? :lol: get 2 with your budget.

Where's the SSD?

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#4 emistz
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To each their own for everything; personally, I went with an AMD 8 core processor for my gaming/normal rig and went with dual Xeons for my workhorse. Even though I am a definately an Intel fan...sometimes their prices urk me. I am also more of a fan of the CoolerMaster HAF case due to the high airflow possibilities (I like the ability to have a larger fan size at lower RPMs to help cut down on fan noise). But honestly, looking at your build list...everything looks pretty good.

 

[edit] depending on what you get into (in the future) you can research Tesla cards. Although they are still expensive, if you get a lot out of them.

Laythrom
I actually took a look at the Nvidia Titan, which I believe runs the Tesla chipset- but the price is just out of control. On the processor note, I'll take a look at the AMDs and see what I come up with. I've always been an intel fan but it might be time for a change.
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#5 emistz
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Drop down to 16GB RAM,

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Any particular reason why you think it would perform better with 16GB of RAM as opposed to 64GB?
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#6 GTR12
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[QUOTE="GTR12"]

Drop down to 16GB RAM,

emistz

Any particular reason why you think it would perform better with 16GB of RAM as opposed to 64GB?

None of the tasks you listed uses 64GB RAM and for the money you save gets you a 2nd GTX680 and a SSD, which is a must.

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Drop CPU to 3770k and motherboard to Z77, get a cooler and overclock. I doubt you will need the hex core and it's crazy expensive.

Drop to 16GB ram, 64 is absurd unless you're rendering the next avatar.

Don't buy a 680, either wait a month for the 700 series or get 2 4GB 670s.

VA panel monitors are bad for gaming due to slow response times. For this budget you may as well look into 1440p monitors.

For that kind of money get a solid state drive (at least for windows, preferably 250GB and stick some applications on it.

Get a power supply from a decent brand, an 850w will be enough to run basically any dual card setup since they are using less and less power these days.

$4000 is a silly amount, spend $2000 and upgrade in a few years.

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#8 Elann2008
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Severely unbalanced build. 8GB of Ram is more than enough. Ditch the Kingwin and grab a Seasonic power supply.

Also, ditch the Creative sound card. With your wallet, you could buy a better sound card from Asus Xonar series or as other audiophiles would recommend a DAC. I'm not an expert in that area but that seems to be the recommendation.Although I've read Asus Xonar DGX compared to Asus Xonar flagship sound cards bear minimal difference for headphone use.

Pour that sweet money into an excellent GPU or GPUs.  

I don't think it's necessary to buy that specific CPU.  That's a waste for money if you're only going to be doing serious gaming.  Get a 3570k or 3770k and be done with it.

Grab a Samsung SSD or two.

Invest in some nice headphones or sound system.

Cheers.

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#9 emistz
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Drop to 16GB ram, 64 is absurd unless you're rendering the next avatar.

Don't buy a 680, either wait a month for the 700 series or get 2 4GB 670s.

VA panel monitors are bad for gaming due to slow response times. For this budget you may as well look into 1440p monitors.

For that kind of money get a solid state drive (at least for windows, preferably 250GB and stick some applications on it.

Get a power supply from a decent brand, an 850w will be enough to run basically any dual card setup since they are using less and less power these days.

$4000 is a silly amount, spend $2000 and upgrade in a few years.

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Thanks for the suggestions man. As far as RAM goes, I intend to run multiple Oses(6-10) at the same time with virtualization, I'm not sure if 64 is needed, but I envision that at least half of that would be taken up. Regarding VA panels, I've never had an IPS before but never really noticed any problems with the monitors I've had. How noticeable would you say that 2-4ms difference in response time between VA and IPS is? Dual card setups: With SLI issues in the newest games/drivers being so prevalent, do you think it is worth it to go dual card? Thanks, emistz
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No need for 2x WD Red HDDs. If you want performance, go for the Black series. If you want balanced performance and power usage, go for the Blue series. If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS.

64GB of RAM? Toooooo much. Tone it down to 8GB or 16GB depending on your usage.

Get a better PSU brand. Go for Coolermaster, Corsair, or Seasonic. Never cheap out on this.

 

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No need for 2x WD Red HDDs. If you want performance, go for the Black series. If you want balanced performance and power usage, go for the Blue series. If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS.

64GB of RAM? Toooooo much. Tone it down to 8GB or 16GB depending on your usage.

Get a better PSU brand. Go for Coolermaster, Corsair, or Seasonic. Never cheap out on this.

Cyberdot

Umm what? you realise the reds are better at RAID than 2 blacks are, they are designed for RAID.

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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

No need for 2x WD Red HDDs. If you want performance, go for the Black series. If you want balanced performance and power usage, go for the Blue series. If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS.

64GB of RAM? Toooooo much. Tone it down to 8GB or 16GB depending on your usage.

Get a better PSU brand. Go for Coolermaster, Corsair, or Seasonic. Never cheap out on this.

GTR12

Umm what? you realise the reds are better at RAID than 2 blacks are, they are designed for RAID.

I didn't say anything about 2 Black HDDs. Note what I said - "If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS."

RAID is pointless, IMO.

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#13 emistz
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No need for 2x WD Red HDDs. If you want performance, go for the Black series. If you want balanced performance and power usage, go for the Blue series. If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS.

64GB of RAM? Toooooo much. Tone it down to 8GB or 16GB depending on your usage.

Get a better PSU brand. Go for Coolermaster, Corsair, or Seasonic. Never cheap out on this.

 

Cyberdot
I'm gonna end up getting a Corsair Professional Series HX 750 Watt ATX/EPS instead. That should be more legit.
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#14 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

No need for 2x WD Red HDDs. If you want performance, go for the Black series. If you want balanced performance and power usage, go for the Blue series. If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS.

64GB of RAM? Toooooo much. Tone it down to 8GB or 16GB depending on your usage.

Get a better PSU brand. Go for Coolermaster, Corsair, or Seasonic. Never cheap out on this.

 

emistz
I'm gonna end up getting a Corsair Professional Series HX 750 Watt ATX/EPS instead. That should be more legit.

Seasonic would be better but whatever floats your boat...dude
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RAID is pointless, IMO.Cyberdot
What?  RAID is great for increased performance or increased reliability, or both.  Definitly not needed for everyone, but with a budget like that I would be running RAID 10.  

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[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

No need for 2x WD Red HDDs. If you want performance, go for the Black series. If you want balanced performance and power usage, go for the Blue series. If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS.

64GB of RAM? Toooooo much. Tone it down to 8GB or 16GB depending on your usage.

Get a better PSU brand. Go for Coolermaster, Corsair, or Seasonic. Never cheap out on this.

Cyberdot

Umm what? you realise the reds are better at RAID than 2 blacks are, they are designed for RAID.

I didn't say anything about 2 Black HDDs. Note what I said - "If you want 2 hard drives, have one SSD for the OS."

RAID is pointless, IMO.

He runs multiple OSs, an SSD isn't going to fit them.
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Hey guys, I'm putting together a new setup, mostly for gaming, programming and some light video editing. I would like to hear if you guys have any suggestions regarding the setup, and if there's anything different you can recommend. My budge is about 4,000 or so. This is what I got so far: 2 x 2TB WD Red WD20EFRX Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ64GX3M8A1600C9) KingWin Lazer Power Supply 1000 Watts with Universal Modular Connectors/3 Way LED Switch/80 Plus Bronze ATX 1000 Power Supply LZ-1000 Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX PCIE Sound Card SB1350 NZXT Aperture M Internal 5.25-Inch Mesh Card Reader with 2x USB 3.0 (8c-aper000-w0b) Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 OC 4GB GDDR5 DVI-I/DVI-D/HDMI/Displayport PCI-Express 3.0 SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N680OC-4GD NZXT Crafted Series ATX Full Tower Steel Chassis - Phantom White with Red Trim Computer Case CS-NT-PHAN-WNR White/Red Gigabyte LGA 2011 DDR3 2133 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard GA-X79-UP4 Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011 - BX80619I73930K 3 x ViewSonic VA2451M-LED 24-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor 1 x Samsung MD32B 32 LED Monitor 16:9 8ms 1920x1080 5000:1 DVI/HDMI/VGA/USB Speaker Is there anything you guys suggest I do differently? I'm open to all kinds of ideas.emistz

 

first drop the RAM to 16gb, second get an antec/corsair/seasonic powersupply worth 750 watts, anything more is dumb.  Not sure about the sound card, get it if you want.  Drop the 680 for a 670, or if you prefer you can get the radeon 7970 (faster/cheaper than the 680 to the shame of nvidia).  The 680 was designed for rich people, specifically designed to take money from people, it is nvidias cash cow and trust me you don't want to be that cow, unless you reeally enjoy it.  The processor drop down to a 3770k, unless you're doing a job that needs that much power.  For gaming and most other tasks there will be no difference.  4 monitors??  Seriously?

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#18 kraken2109
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What headphones/speakers do you plan on using with it?