Building a PC for the First Time (Help Please!)

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#1 LootaGuytie
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So my current computer is really bad as of now and it's time to get a new one. I want to build my new one, because the store bought ones don't have that much power in them. I just want to see if the parts I'm buying are good and so I don't waste my money. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443]GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD [/url] is the motherboard. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008] CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS [/url] is the power supply. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333]GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP [/url] is the video card. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706]AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor ADX620WFGIBOX [/url] is the CPU. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227541]OCZ Reaper Edition 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 1333 [/url] is the memory. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066]Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX [/url] is the case. I am going to play mostly RTS's on my computer, FPS mostly stay on the 360. I do want to play the games on pretty high quality though, without lag as well :P My budget is $800 Canadian. Thanks for the help, in advance!
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#2 juan530
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well i dont know to much about pc hardware but that looks good i think you might need a more powerful psu. are you gonna use components from an your old pc or are you buying everything new

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#3 LootaGuytie
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Oh yeah I am gonna salvage my DVD drive and hard drive space.
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#4 juan530
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well you should prob bump this later when people arent sleeping to get better help because i dont know much also you might need a new moniter depending how high resolutions you old one can perform

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#5 keiblerfan69
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8GB's of RAM is beyond overkill. Go with 4 or 6. Perfect choice for video card, also go with this CPU instead: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

Also I suggest getting the Corsair 650w:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

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#6 Levrar
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Grab the Noctua NH-U9B heatsink and change the power supply for the TX750.

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#7 Coldzboy
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8GB's of RAM is beyond overkill. Go with 4 or 6. Perfect choice for video card, also go with this CPU instead: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

Also I suggest getting the Corsair 650w:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

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No, I have 8gb and it's great, like I always have CSS and PS up in the background, WHILE im playing other games and my usage gets pretty high...couldnt do that with 6...
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You will want a bigger PSU and I would recommend a 650w just to be on the safe side. You don't need 8GB of RAM as 4 will be sufficient. You can put the money you save towards a better cpu and psu. RTS games can be more cpu intensive than other games such as fps so you will get better performance from a Phenom II. I have linked parts below that would put you right around the $800 mark. AMD Phenom II 955G.Skill DDR3 1333 RAMGigabyte GTX 460 - same as you have linked! ASUS M4A77T/USB3Corsair tx 650WAntec 300 ILLUSION - Same as you have linked! Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM Total is $832.84 without any shipping and taxes.
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#9 keiblerfan69
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Buy exactly what jtcraft has linked to and you should be great. Hell I want to buy that same rig right now.
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[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"]

8GB's of RAM is beyond overkill. Go with 4 or 6. Perfect choice for video card, also go with this CPU instead: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

Also I suggest getting the Corsair 650w:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

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No, I have 8gb and it's great, like I always have CSS and PS up in the background, WHILE im playing other games and my usage gets pretty high...couldnt do that with 6...

Why anyone would run 2 extra things in the background while running other games doesn't make any sense to me, that is a specific case where you would need a lot more RAM. For most people 2-4 GB is enough.
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#11 SinzOfTheFallen
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i do that all the time..i have mIRC and a media player as well as downloads going while i'm playing games... though it's not ps or css but it does help to have 4gb of memory.

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#12 LootaGuytie
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Thanks for all the help guys! :D But I was just wondering if you guys knew of a motherboard similar to that one, but with two PCI-E slots?
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#13 Roggirek
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Here's an SLi board for the possibility of another 460 in the future, but I think you would want a 750 watt PSU in that case.

EDIT: forgot the actual link. Jeez.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131637&cm_re=AM3_sli-_-13-131-637-_-Product

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You will want a bigger PSU and I would recommend a 650w just to be on the safe side. You don't need 8GB of RAM as 4 will be sufficient. You can put the money you save towards a better cpu and psu. RTS games can be more cpu intensive than other games such as fps so you will get better performance from a Phenom II. I have linked parts below that would put you right around the $800 mark. AMD Phenom II 955G.Skill DDR3 1333 RAMGigabyte GTX 460 - same as you have linked! ASUS M4A77T/USB3Corsair tx 650WAntec 300 ILLUSION - Same as you have linked! Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM Total is $832.84 without any shipping and taxes.jtcraft

another option to bolster savings is to grab a rosewill challenger case instead + windows 7 in a bundle.. youd be saving about ehh 30 bucks with that over the cramped antec 300 + windows 7. the 900 is sooo much better than the 300 if you went with that instead i would have backed off but its a whole 20 bucks moar.

the rosewill challeneger is jsut as good and uses thumbscrews.. which is a huge help for first time builders b/c screws suck :P

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Alright, thanks for all the help so far but I found a local seller and had to adjust some parts for them. [url=http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=027383]CPU [/url] [url=http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=032936]Video Card [/url] [url=http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_443&item_id=021533]PSU [/url] [url=http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_313_622&item_id=018157]RAM [/url] [url=http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_112&item_id=018460]Case [/url] [url=http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_340&item_id=021508&sid=aqqibqmbivn2dl0ammice5i823]Motherboard [/url] Is this a equal or better computer than what I had before? Also I know bump/necro, but I didn't want to start a new thread.
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Alright, thanks for all the help so far but I found a local seller and had to adjust some parts for them. CPU Video Card PSU RAM Case Motherboard Is this a equal or better computer than what I had before? Also I know bump/necro, but I didn't want to start a new thread.LootaGuytie
You cant use DDR2 ram with a motherboard that uses DDR 3, you need to change that.
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[QUOTE="LootaGuytie"]So my current computer is really bad as of now and it's time to get a new one. I want to build my new one, because the store bought ones don't have that much power in them. I just want to see if the parts I'm buying are good and so I don't waste my money. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443]GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD [/url] is the motherboard. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008] CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS [/url] is the power supply. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333]GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP [/url] is the video card. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706]AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor ADX620WFGIBOX [/url] is the CPU. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227541]OCZ Reaper Edition 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 1333 [/url] is the memory. [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066]Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX [/url] is the case. I am going to play mostly RTS's on my computer, FPS mostly stay on the 360. I do want to play the games on pretty high quality though, without lag as well :P My budget is $800 Canadian. Thanks for the help, in advance!

let me guess, starcraft 2? i wonder how many people changed pc for that game, ridiculous numbers seriously :P
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#20 jtcraft
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That system looks good. Like carraher said you will need DDR3 RAM. Here is some G.Skill RAM. G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 1333
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#21 LootaGuytie
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Ah thanks guys I'm leaning all the time :D No it's not just Starcraft 2, though I do love me some Starcraft, my computer can barely run Youtube videos.
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#22 wanneir
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Ah thanks guys I'm leaning all the time :D No it's not just Starcraft 2, though I do love me some Starcraft, my computer can barely run Youtube videos.LootaGuytie

heh when youtube doesn't work there is still paint! can you maxout 3D pinball (space cadets)