Building this (mabye) please check.This this is my 1st build I'd Be very gr8full

....PSU....

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=115880&_LOC=UK

PRICE = £89.99

....Proccesor....

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/112706/rb/0

PRICE = £140.43

....HARDRIVE....

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115418

PRICE = £49.68

....RAM....

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/114728/rb/0

PRICE = £67.65

....GRAPHICS....

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=127949&_LOC=UK

PRICE = £433.22 ULTRA OVERCLOCKED XFX (Hopfully getting this for my birthday)

What is better this or the 8800GTX?

....SOUNDCARD....
????????????????? which also goes for speakers ?????????????????
....OPTICAL DRIVE....

Disk Type: CD-Rom Audio
Peripheral
Type: ATAPI
Model
PHILIPS DVDR1628P1

Recordable: Yes

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

....CASE....

http://www.xcase.co.uk/p/290405/a-case-twin-engine-bb-with-2-x-250mm-fans---no-psu-black.html

PRICE = £69.99

....OS....

Windows vista ebay.com (home premium)

....MOTHERBOARD....

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=560973

PRICE = £159.79

....NETWORK CARD....

Will this be compatible please tell usplease !! Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC

IS THIS EVERYTHING OR AM I MISSING ANYTHING OUT IF SO PLEASE TELL ME.
I AM OBVIOUSLY MISSING OUT A SOUND CARD DON'T KNOW WHAT ONE TO GET OR IF I NEED ONE, IF YOU GUYS
THINK THAT I NEED ONE AND THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR SOUND WITHOUT ONE THEN I WILL GET ONE OTHERWISE
I WILL SPEND THE £200 POUND SPARE ON AN HD MOITOR IF ONE EXISTS AT THAT PRICE AND I AM ALSO GOING TO SELL
THE MONITOR I HAVE ATM.ALSO IF ANYONE KNOWS OF PLACES WHERE I CAN GET ANY OF THESE ITEMS FOR CHEAPER OR
IF I CAN GET A BETTER TYPE THEN PLEASE POST THIS THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD.I AM ACTUALLY NEEDING 4Gb OF RAM
BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GO AROUND THIS PLEASE POST AND HELP ME I WOULD BE VERY GRATFULL AS THIS IS MY
1ST BUILD. THANKS ALOT PLEASE DO THIS THANK YOU I WILLBE VERY GRATFULL I CAN TELL YOU THAT ^^

Looks like a hella good PC to me. Seems like you have every part .. I don't immediately know of anything you missed.

You won't absolutely NEED a sound card as the mobo comes with built-in sound but it wouldn't hurt, either. Just get it whenever your budget allows.

As for 4GB of RAM .. why go for 4 gigs right now? 2 GB is more than fine ATM.

kool man do you kno if they are all compatible with each otherjjc273

I'll be honest when I say that I've never built a system from scratch, but just glancing over the parts, it seems everything is compatible.

The PSU seems fine .. the CPU will be fine with the motherboard because it supports Core 2 Duo processors .. the video card of course will work ... the RAM will work I'm sure ... Harddrive should work w/ no probs ... the case looks badass.

I also see where you ask about the 8800 ULTRA or GTX. The truth is that both cards perform similarly, but the Ultra is the "best of the best," so just get what money allows. You won't notice much of a difference from one card to the other. I'm not saying the Ultra doesn't perform better, because it does, but the difference isn't really big (usually 5-15 FPS from what I've seen).

Sorry that I can't help all that much more. If anyone has built a system before and catches anything missing, please speak up!

I really don't see anything that's missing, though. That's pretty much everything (except the monitor of course), and all the parts seem to be compatible with one another.

Well, all the parts are compatible, but:

The 8800 Ultra is not worth the money - a regular 8800GTX is more than enough for you. Hell, I'd suspect that an 8800GTS would suffice. If you've got a fairly big monitor, a 640MB version would likely be a good buy. If you really want to spend the money though, the 8800GTX is an excellent card - but the 8800 Ultra isn't worth it.

You won't need a sound card for your rig, as that motherboard does have onboard sound. It might be nice though, especially in a rig that has an 8800 Ultra.

If you want to go with 4GB of RAM, ebuyer does appear to have a 2x2GB kit. I'd recommend going that route instead of 4x1GB.

Also, I doubt you'll need to buy a NIC - most onboard NIC's can operate faster than your internet connection can provide, so buying a PCI one is a waste of a slot.

For buying parts in the UK, also check Scan.co.uk and Overclockers.co.uk

Well, all the parts are compatible, but:

The 8800 Ultra is not worth the money - a regular 8800GTX is more than enough for you. Hell, I'd suspect that an 8800GTS would suffice. If you've got a fairly big monitor, a 640MB version would likely be a good buy. If you really want to spend the money though, the 8800GTX is an excellent card - but the 8800 Ultra isn't worth it.RayvinAzn

Indeed. :)

As an added note (not like anyone really cares):
I personally am just going with the BFG 8800 GTS 640MB because I only game at 1280x1024 and nothing higher .. so even if I got a GTX it'd go to waste because unless you're going to be gaming with a really big monitor and really high resolutions, the difference between those cards really isn't magnificent nor even worth the money in my opinion.

To me, the really expensive cards such as the GTX and Ultra are for getting the best out of large monitors without worrying about maxing out the settings at high resolutions. Otherwise, the GTS series will be fine.

But with that said, if you REALLY WANT the GTX/Ultra, I say go for it - it's your choice, and you can't go wrong because the 8800 series kicks ass, flat out.

so are NET cards only for dial up because i have braodband and a wirelss router and ****** wireless thingy anyway so ?jjc273

Network cards are primarily for ethernet connections I'm pretty sure .. and motherboards that come with those types of cards installed are generally good enough without the requirement of buying a brand new one.

Actually man the monitor i have atm is 1024 x 1280 so with what you have said is there really a point in getting GTX. the thing is will games like crysis run on GTS and Oblivion does that run maxed out on GTS?jjc273

Actually man the monitor i have atm is 1024 x 1280 so with what you have said is there really a point in getting GTX. the thing is will games like crysis run on GTS and Oblivion does that run maxed out on GTS?jjc273

Are you sure it's 1280x1024 and not 1024x768 or 1024x1280 as you said?

If you're talking about 1024x768, that's a fairly low resolution and the GTS could EASILY pump out frames like mad on any game, even in the future.

Pretty much the same deal for 1280x1024 .. the GTS handles any game at that resolution easily. It only starts to slow down at 1600x1200 onwards, and that's with lots of AA/AF applied.

Actually man the monitor i have atm is 1024 x 1280 so with what you have said is there really a point in getting GTX. the thing is will games like crysis run on GTS and Oblivion does that run maxed out on GTS?jjc273

On your rig with an 8800GTS 640MB, you should be able to get high detail on Crysis @ 12x10. Maybe not ultra-high, but it's up in the air right now.

would i not be better with XFX 8800GTS because my Mobo is XFX ? just wonderingjjc273

To be honest, brand names are just that - brand names. It generally won't matter. I've heard eVGA and BFG recommended the most, especially EVGA because they are so close to Nvidia in terms of working together, and they also have some of the best prices around. PNY is also good.

Generally, it doesn't matter. Getting the same brand GPU as your motherboard won't have any noticable benefits, I assure you.

[QUOTE="jjc273"]Actually man the monitor i have atm is 1024 x 1280 so with what you have said is there really a point in getting GTX. the thing is will games like crysis run on GTS and Oblivion does that run maxed out on GTS?RayvinAzn

On your rig with an 8800GTS 640MB, you should be able to get high detail on Crysis @ 12x10. Maybe not ultra-high, but it's up in the air right now.

In the recent PG Gamer UK article (I believe), they mentioned that Crysis could be played on Ultra High w/ 2 GB RAM, a C2D e6600 processor, and a 8800 GTS.

Whether or not this is true of course is up in the air, but if it was for sure from PC Gamer, you can believe it.

I don't think the GTS would have any problems with Crysis on High/Ultra High at 1280x1024, even with AA/AF.

Source:

http://incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5215

Specific quote:

Cevat says that a mid level E6600 CPU is enough to play the game on ULTRA HIGH settings - obviously an 8800 would also be required (8800GTS would be ok but GTX ideal) and 2 GB ram needed - the ram is his highest priority upgrade recommendation.

kk lol and here is a link to the monitor i have atm.

http://www.euroffice.co.uk/itm_show.asp?G20398=Samsung-SyncMaster-713BM-flat-panel-display-TFT-17%22%22-Silver&HI=XM1376#head

although i reckon i will upgrade as it is not HD and to get the most from GTS HD would be best bet i guess

infact man ill just check that ive gt the mag here where is it in the article ?

kk lol and here is a link to the monitor i have atm.

http://www.euroffice.co.uk/itm_show.asp?G20398=Samsung-SyncMaster-713BM-flat-panel-display-TFT-17%22%22-Silver&HI=XM1376#head

although i reckon i will upgrade as it is not HD and to get the most from GTS HD would be best bet i guess

jjc273

That monitor is just like mine .. 17" LCD w/ max resolution of 1280x1024 @ 75hz, which is why I'm just going for the 8800 GTS for now.

If you're DEFINITELY getting a bigger monitor w/ much higher resolutions, go ahead and get the GTX because it will aid greatly in the long run. If you're going to be stuck with 1280x1024 for a year or so, though, I'd just get the GTS and save yourself a hell of a lot of cash. Then you can always wait afterwards for prices to drop and even better cards to come out until you upgrade again for a card that can pump out good frames @ higher resolutions.

infact man ill just check that ive gt the mag here where is it in the article ?

jjc273

Not sure .. just skim through and keep your eyes out for anything saying 8800 or E6600, as that's what it refers directly to. (And lucky for you, the E6600 is the exact processor you're getting, and it's a good one too.)

In the recent PG Gamer UK article (I believe), they mentioned that Crysis could be played on Ultra High w/ 2 GB RAM, a C2D e6600 processor, and a 8800 GTS.

Whether or not this is true of course is up in the air, but if it was for sure from PC Gamer, you can believe it.

I don't think the GTS would have any problems with Crysis on High/Ultra High at 1280x1024, even with AA/AF.

THA-TODD-BEAST

The article said nothing about resolution - they wouldn't technically be lying if it was 800x600 Ultra-High or something. I suspect 10x7 is the lowest resolution they're really expecting anyone to play at though.

yeh man i think that would be the senseble idea i suppose its just that i would atleast like to get a 22" monitorbecause i thought that the GTS card takes full advantage onHD and this would be very usefull i think. i fact even if i gt a 19" HD that would be gr8now any ideas where i could find one and infact would this mean that i could stay with GTS or will i have to upgrade to GTX ? because you are right it is a big diff in price-ish

but yeh i found that article and you are right. ^^

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

In the recent PG Gamer UK article (I believe), they mentioned that Crysis could be played on Ultra High w/ 2 GB RAM, a C2D e6600 processor, and a 8800 GTS.

Whether or not this is true of course is up in the air, but if it was for sure from PC Gamer, you can believe it.

I don't think the GTS would have any problems with Crysis on High/Ultra High at 1280x1024, even with AA/AF.

RayvinAzn

The article said nothing about resolution - they wouldn't technically be lying if it was 800x600 Ultra-High or something. I suspect 10x7 is the lowest resolution they're really expecting anyone to play at though.

Yeah you're definitely right about that .. and resolution is of course very important because it plays a really big role in determining how much your video card will be pushed.

I'm assuming they're referring to 1280x1024 though, since according to the STEAM survey it's basically the most popular resolution in that area.. but 1024x768 is also very popular, so who knows.

If they're referring to 800x600 or 1024x768, that'd sux0rz majorly!

yeh emm what is the maximum res of a GTS?jjc273

The GTS doesn't limit the maximum resolution, that depends on your monitor.

The GTS can play at any resolution as the GTX/Ultra, it's just that at the extremely high resolutions, more video memory comes into play and the GTX/Ultra begin to leave the GTS in the dust because they have more memory + power that allows them to still play at great frames at thoe resolutions.

In fact, this is why I'm getting the 640MB version of the GTS .. to better future-proof myself in case I happen to get a better monitor sometime. The 320MB version will run out of memory quicker at higher resolutions and you'll start to see more significant frame drops, though generally the 320MB and 640MB versions are virtually identical in performance and the 320MB version will not be any different from the 640MB version at 1280x1024.

Yeah you're definitely right about that .. and resolution is of course very important because it plays a really big role in determining how much your video card will be pushed.

I'm assuming they're referring to 1280x1024 though, since according to the STEAM survey it's basically the most popular resolution in that area.. but 1024x768 is also very popular, so who knows.

If they're referring to 800x600 or 1024x768, that'd sux0rz majorly!

THA-TODD-BEAST

Not really - Crysis at High Quality 12x10 will still be very enjoyable, and I wouldn't feel cheated if I owned an 8800GTS at all.

So ravin what do u mean are you saying that the GTS are a waste of money or taht you would love to have 1?

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Yeah you're definitely right about that .. and resolution is of course very important because it plays a really big role in determining how much your video card will be pushed.

I'm assuming they're referring to 1280x1024 though, since according to the STEAM survey it's basically the most popular resolution in that area.. but 1024x768 is also very popular, so who knows.

If they're referring to 800x600 or 1024x768, that'd sux0rz majorly!

RayvinAzn

Not really - Crysis at High Quality 12x10 will still be very enjoyable, and I wouldn't feel cheated if I owned an 8800GTS at all.

What do you mean by 12x10? Just curious. If you're referring to 1280x1024, that's the resolution I'd WANT them to be referring to. On my LCD monitor, I'm not overly fond of 1024x768 because at that resolution, things get somewhat fuzzy.

So ravin what do u mean are you saying that the GTS are a waste of money or taht you would love to have 1?

jjc273

He's saying the GTS is good .. it's anything but a waste of money.

As I said, though, you can't go wrong with the GTS or GTX. The Ultra is really not worth it, but the GTX is an amazing card.. just pricey and more worth it if you're going to be gaming at high resolutions.

You WILL get better performance than the GTS even on lower resolutions, but the difference isn't as big as the higher ones .. and the GTS is still a monster of a card that won't disappoint in just about any game you throw at it. (I don't have one just yet, but I've seen the benchmarks and heard from many that it's a damned good card.)

What do you mean by 12x10? Just curious. If you're referring to 1280x1024, that's the resolution I'd WANT them to be referring to. On my LCD monitor, I'm not overly fond of 1024x768 because at that resolution, things get somewhat fuzzy.

THA-TODD-BEAST

12x10 is just an abbreviation of 1280x1024. And while they might not be referring to that resolution for Ultra-High quality on an 8800GTS card @ 12x10, if they are referring to 10x7, getting regular High-Quality settings on 12x10 should be doable.

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

What do you mean by 12x10? Just curious. If you're referring to 1280x1024, that's the resolution I'd WANT them to be referring to. On my LCD monitor, I'm not overly fond of 1024x768 because at that resolution, things get somewhat fuzzy.

RayvinAzn

12x10 is just an abbreviation of 1280x1024. And while they might not be referring to that resolution for Ultra-High quality on an 8800GTS card @ 12x10, if they are referring to 10x7, getting regular High-Quality settings on 12x10 should be doable.

Ah, ok.. yeah you're right. I'm not worried about the GTS that I'll be getting here in a bit .. I'm just worried about how my Athlon X2 4800+ processor will do.

The Intel C2D processors are just so much powerful and better deals overall, I'm a bit afraid that I may be SLIGHTLY held back by it, though I hope I won't run into any major problems because I do have 2 GB of RAM backing me up. :D

But say i said i wanted to run crysis on high performance quality with a 22" widscreen HD monitor with the GTS what would be the answer.jjc273

If that's a near-future scenario, get the GTX because you'd be able to run Crysis well on Ultra High probably at the highest resolution that monitor would support, or close to it anyways.

Ah, ok.. yeah you're right. I'm not worried about the GTS that I'll be getting here in a bit .. I'm just worried about how my Athlon X2 4800+ processor will do.

The Intel C2D processors are just so much powerful and better deals overall, I'm a bit afraid that I may be SLIGHTLY held back by it, though I hope I won't run into any major problems because I do have 2 GB of RAM backing me up. :D

THA-TODD-BEAST

The X2 4800 processor should hold up just fine - your extra cache is nice to have, and the 2.4GHz clock speed is nothing to sniff at. I'd estimate that your processor will perform somewhere around an E6320 in performance, which even at stock speed is no slouch. Slight bottleneck, possibly. But I doubt it's going to be a huge deal, especially since first-person-shooters aren't horribly notorious for being processing hogs like real-time-strategy games are.

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Ah, ok.. yeah you're right. I'm not worried about the GTS that I'll be getting here in a bit .. I'm just worried about how my Athlon X2 4800+ processor will do.

The Intel C2D processors are just so much powerful and better deals overall, I'm a bit afraid that I may be SLIGHTLY held back by it, though I hope I won't run into any major problems because I do have 2 GB of RAM backing me up. :D

RayvinAzn

The X2 4800 processor should hold up just fine - your extra cache is nice to have, and the 2.4GHz clock speed is nothing to sniff at. I'd estimate that your processor will perform somewhere around an E6320 in performance, which even at stock speed is no slouch. Slight bottleneck, possibly. But I doubt it's going to be a huge deal, especially since first-person-shooters aren't horribly notorious for being processing hogs like real-time-strategy games are.

Very good points .. thanks for the info. :) I didn't know it was equal to the E6320.. I thought it was about like the E4000-type processors or something, LOL I was a bit worried. But yeah, you're right that 2.4GHz isn't anything bad. The only thing that might be a processor hog is the physics that are in the game, but I'm sure that even that will be fine.

But say i said i wanted to run crysis on high performance quality with a 22" widscreen HD monitor with the GTS what would be the answer.jjc273

Most likely a 16x10 monitor, yes? The 640MB GTS might be a better idea, but you should be able to get Crysis running at High-Quality. There's honestly no way to tell until the game is out (or close to being out) though.

Hah lol then youv'e obviously not watched this mabye you have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LZD3Ck3REw

Very good points .. thanks for the info. :) I didn't know it was equal to the E6320.. I thought it was about like the E4000-type processors or something, LOL I was a bit worried. But yeah, you're right that 2.4GHz isn't anything bad. The only thing that might be a processor hog is the physics that are in the game, but I'm sure that even that will be fine.

THA-TODD-BEAST

Well, the E4400 has been known to outperform the E6320 in some instances, despite the E6320 having a higher FSB speed and double the L2 cache. Granted, most of those instances are synthetic benchmarks, not generally real-world scenarios. Still, I'm reasonably sure that the X2 4800 is approximately equal to the E6320 - at least it's not far enough off to really make you in the area where you're hurting for a processor upgrade.

KK guys what would be better getting a sound card and kick ass speakers or getting a 22" monitor i dnt know :S

plus have any of you played oblivion on a GTS becasue this is the main thing i want to know i have seenthe GTXperform on youtube and the graphics are beutifull :P seriously i just want to know if the graphics are near enough the same on the GTS

KK guys what would be better getting a sound card and kick ass speakers or getting a 22" monitor i dnt know :S

plus have any of you played oblivion on a GTS becasue this is the main thing i want to know i have seenthe GTXperform on youtube and the graphics are beutifull :P seriously i just want to know if the graphics are near enough the same on the GTS

jjc273

Look at some benchmarks online .. on Oblivion, I've heard that on 1280x1024, the FPS is around 40-100+depending on what's happening.

There's also a YouTube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563HJQPBCRs In which a guy is playing Oblivion on a GTS.

kool thanks i watched that i just got a really good idea btw im gonna buy the GTX atm and then im gonna sell my intel P 4 3.6 Ghz proccesor on Ebay along with a bunch of other things that are in my PC but the main problem is stopping the static electricity gettuing to it ohw will i do this do i buy special bags ?

guys i know exactly what im gonna do now im just gonna get the GTS because i have thought a GTX card is not going to be needed till a while and most game will be able to max with GTS so for this reason im gonna sum all the parts up and then any leftovers will go towards a new screenjjc273

Good choice .. I'm sure going with that will be a very good option.