Buying used games?

I have a friend that told me if you buy games used, then the company that made them won't get any of the profit. I wanted to correct him because that sounds wrong, but to be honest I have no clue. Is this true?

Uh yeah. Think about it, all you do is pay another person for the disc. The developer never enters the equation. Don't know why you posted this here though, you basically can't buy used pc games.

Yeah I should have posted this in the ps3 section. It mostly had to do with buying a used ps3 game for gamestop, sorry for the confusion.

Go ahead and buy used games.

Don't worry about the all the crying from developers and publishers, they made their profits when they sold the game the first time, just like Chevy and the car dealership did when I purchased my vehicle.

If Chevy and the dealer were silly enough to suggest that they wanted a piece of the pie when I sell my vehicle to someone else, I would laugh in their face. Sadly, devs and publishers are beyond retarded/greedy, so we have had to listen to them cry poverty because of "lost revenue" due to used game sales for the last few years.

I'm looking forward to the day that they realize how ridiculous their argument is, and then put it to rest once and for all.

Yeah I should have posted this in the ps3 section. It mostly had to do with buying a used ps3 game for gamestop, sorry for the confusion.

lolrawrz

Nothing but blabbering by corporate apologists who, if successful, will give leeway to publishers screwing us harder than they already do. Ignore it.

Dude, what?

There isn't really a used games market on PC, so this is the wrong section for one thing.

For another, if you sold somebody your car, then they sold it to somebody else, would you get any of the money they got from when they sold it? I mean, its kind of obvious that the money won't be going back to the creators, especially considering the bajillions of games that have online passes and day one free DLC to deter used game purchases.

Wrong forum, used games are almost (if not) dead on PC gaming. But, is it wrong to buy used games?; no, it isn't. Go ahead and do it. The developer/publisher already got the money. When they say that selling used games is worse than pirating a game ignore them, it is just bla bla bla because they are too greedy and want more money. Miroku32

Yeah, the publishers and developers don't get money from used game sales, but that's because they already got the money when it was new. I don't understand the fuss, movies, books and music have no such compunction, while digital sales (which make up a hefty portion of income for creators) means they don't have to worry about it. I bought the game and gave them my money, its my right to sell it since I own it.

But no, they don't get a dime if I do sell it.

to the company there is no difference between pirating and used which makes me sad since i want to give namco all my $$$JigglyWiggly_

pirating and used games are waayy different....but i guess you knwo that and just trying to troll....

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]to the company there is no difference between pirating and used which makes me sad since i want to give namco all my $$$undeadgoon

pirating and used games are waayy different....but i guess you knwo that and just trying to troll....

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]to the company there is no difference between pirating and used which makes me sad since i want to give namco all my $$$DanielDust

pirating and used games are waayy different....but i guess you knwo that and just trying to troll....

Not at all, for a game to be used it has to be bought first... company gets money.. and is one copy....

Pirating ... the company doesnt get anything at all.. and can be many copies that isnt being paid for...

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="undeadgoon"]

pirating and used games are waayy different....but i guess you knwo that and just trying to troll....

undeadgoon

Not at all, for a game to be used it has to be bought first... company gets money.. and is one copy....

Pirating ... the company doesnt get anything at all.. and can be many copies that isnt being paid for...

[QUOTE="undeadgoon"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] For companies, they are identical, but considering your post in that other thread, I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed they aren't.DanielDust

Not at all, for a game to be used it has to be bought first... company gets money.. and is one copy....

Pirating ... the company doesnt get anything at all.. and can be many copies that isnt being paid for...

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Captain__Tripps

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Miroku32

The real issue here is that very few games are worth $60 these days, but gamers still like to be able to play those games at a reduced price.

If developers start making games that people feel are worth $60, people will glady pay the money (just look at day one sales of Call of Duty every November).

Until you do that, don't expect people to shell out $60 for a game that should be priced at $20 from the start.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Miroku32

[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Captain__Tripps

The gaming industry has you brainwashed into thinking that the developers deserve to continue making money off their game after it's purchased initially. Can't think of any other industry that has pulled this **** on the consumer. Once it's bought retail, it's none of their god damn business what happens to the game...they made the money they're entitled to.

Maybe if they sold games cheaper, people would be less inclined to purchase them used. Sorry, but taking a risk on a $60 game is a bit much to ask of the average gamer considering how **** terrible the games are these days.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="Miroku32"] Come on, then if that's so buying used products is something that should be punishable by law I admit that ppl are stupid in buying a game by $55 in Gamestop while buying it new is $60 but what if the game is like $20 or something like that?; where I live 3DS games cost $50 without taxes and I managed to buy RE:Revelations at $24 used. What would you do?; buy the game at $50 or buy the used one?xxxLUGZxxx

The gaming industry has you brainwashed into thinking that the developers deserve to continue making money off their game after it's purchased initially. Can't think of any other industry that has pulled this **** on the consumer. Once it's bought retail, it's none of their god damn business what happens to the game...they made the money they're entitled to.

Maybe if they sold games cheaper, people would be less inclined to purchase them used. Sorry, but taking a risk on a $60 game is a bit much to ask of the average gamer considering how **** terrible the games are these days.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Miroku32

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="Miroku32"] Come on, then if that's so buying used products is something that should be punishable by law I admit that ppl are stupid in buying a game by $55 in Gamestop while buying it new is $60 but what if the game is like $20 or something like that?; where I live 3DS games cost $50 without taxes and I managed to buy RE:Revelations at $24 used. What would you do?; buy the game at $50 or buy the used one?xxxLUGZxxx

The gaming industry has you brainwashed into thinking that the developers deserve to continue making money off their game after it's purchased initially. Can't think of any other industry that has pulled this **** on the consumer. Once it's bought retail, it's none of their god damn business what happens to the game...they made the money they're entitled to.

Maybe if they sold games cheaper, people would be less inclined to purchase them used. Sorry, but taking a risk on a $60 game is a bit much to ask of the average gamer considering how **** terrible the games are these days.

Why buying 2nd hand games when you have steam sales? Even in the early 00s i refused to get used games, can't stand touching a sticky box with fat choco finger prints all around.

Used game selling is or was just a business by game stores for getting little profit from shabby customers.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Miroku32

Used games are worse than piracy, because they're not only making money multiples times on one single copy of a game (used games for companies like Gamestop are like renting, they always lure people back for "great" deals for their games), illegal money that is passed off as legal, sooner or later all console games will become similar to PC games because of that.

The developer isn't getting the money twice.. Where do you guys get this thinking from? Used game sales is like buying one copy and letting the whole neighborhood borrow it. The developer sees none of the money they should be earning. No one said you had to take a risk on a $60 game. No one is holding a gun to your head to make you buy it. If you buy a terrible game, the only person at fault is YOU, and only you. Isn't it free will? But it's easy for crybabies to put the blame on someone else.Elann2008

Personally, I'm also surprised how this is the only industry that hates the purchase of used products. Never thought I would see when that happened.

[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

Used games are argubley worse. If someone buys a used copy at gamestop for $55, that is real money that the publisher would have seen, that they dont for a savings of 5 bucks... a cheap pirate, likely would have not bought it used or new, but the used buyer would be more likely to buy a new copy if there was no used one available...

Elann2008

If you sell your car than Ford or Toyota don't get any profit from that either. Why is this only an issue with software and not any other kind of mechandise?

What it comes down to for me is I'm allowed to sell anything else I want used. I don't see any reason games should be any different. It's my right as a consumer of a physical product. (A disk, a digital copy is a completely seperate issue.)

I think the reason developers/publishers complain about it is because the current gaming market is unsustainable. So much money is spent on development and advertising that they have to make up for, so instead of cutting costs they decide to fight used game sales. I don't understand why development costs are rising so much. What is it that requires that much extra work to make it cost so much more than it used to? It can't be graphics alone. What else has changed?

If you sell your car than Ford or Toyota don't get any profit from that either. Why is this only an issue with software and not any other kind of mechandise?

fenriz275

probably because software doesn't show signs of wear
also cars need dat maintenance

dun get me wrong i want used games to continue to be sold.

What it comes down to for me is I'm allowed to sell anything else I want used. I don't see any reason games should be any different. It's my right as a consumer of a physical product. (A disk, a digital copy is a completely seperate issue.)

I think the reason developers/publishers complain about it is because the current gaming market is unsustainable. So much money is spent on development and advertising that they have to make up for, so instead of cutting costs they decide to fight used game sales. I don't understand why development costs are rising so much. What is it that requires that much extra work to make it cost so much more than it used to? It can't be graphics alone. What else has changed?

INF1DEL

[QUOTE="fenriz275"]

If you sell your car than Ford or Toyota don't get any profit from that either. Why is this only an issue with software and not any other kind of mechandise?

JigglyWiggly_

probably because software doesn't show signs of wear
also cars need dat maintenance

dun get me wrong i want used games to continue to be sold.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="fenriz275"]

If you sell your car than Ford or Toyota don't get any profit from that either. Why is this only an issue with software and not any other kind of mechandise?

Captain__Tripps

probably because software doesn't show signs of wear
also cars need dat maintenance

dun get me wrong i want used games to continue to be sold.

people still watch DVDs?
and used books can be gross, games when I buy used, I submerge the cases in dat water/lysol/alcohoal and clean dem cartridges gud.
unrelated

about dem books

i've bought a book for reading for fun for the first time in my rife last month.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Miroku32"] Come on, then if that's so buying used products is something that should be punishable by law I admit that ppl are stupid in buying a game by $55 in Gamestop while buying it new is $60 but what if the game is like $20 or something like that?; where I live 3DS games cost $50 without taxes and I managed to buy RE:Revelations at $24 used. What would you do?; buy the game at $50 or buy the used one?cain006

if the game isnt available on digital stores or you cant find a hard copy, then i dont see why a person cant buy them used

Like many others in this thread, I'll never understand how game companies ever convinced their customers that the used market is destroying all that is good in this world. Outside of the software industry, there is a used market for every other type of IP. Books? Yep. In fact, a great many college students are able to purchase all the books required because they're able to buy and sell used books. DVDs? Yep. They're not worth a whole lot, but I'm allowed to sell my copy any time I want. Music CDs? Again, I can do as I want.

This needs to extend to all digital products. If I no longer want to play Skyrim on my PC, use Matlab, listen to the mp3 I purchased, etc., I should be allowed to sell it someone else. But somehow, the companies have convinced politicians and judges that I only secured the rights to access the content, not ownership of that particular copy. Hell, I'm actually surprised they haven't found some way to extend that sort of logic to DVDs, CDs, books, and console games.

Like many others in this thread, I'll never understand how game companies ever convinced their customers that the used market is destroying all that is good in this world. Outside of the software industry, there is a used market for every other type of IP. Books? Yep. In fact, a great many college students are able to purchase all the books required because they're able to buy and sell used books. DVDs? Yep. They're not worth a whole lot, but I'm allowed to sell my copy any time I want. Music CDs? Again, I can do as I want.

This needs to extend to all digital products. If I no longer want to play Skyrim on my PC, use Matlab, listen to the mp3 I purchased, etc., I should be allowed to sell it someone else. But somehow, the companies have convinced politicians and judges that I only secured the rights to access the content, not ownership of that particular copy. Hell, I'm actually surprised they haven't found some way to extend that sort of logic to DVDs, CDs, books, and console games.

megam