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#1 ALBELtheWICKED
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Some time towards the end of the year I've decided I'd like to get a new PC. I've never built one and I don't know anything about electronics. Does it require a lot of knowhow and soldering skills or what?

Does anyone think buying one is the better way to go? Are there any specific sites where you can get good deals on gaming PCs? I don't know anything about this stuff and all I'm ever seeing is these long lists of components with long model numbers I don't understand lol. I'm ignorant about all of this stuff.

So any advice for how someone like me should go about getting a new PC?

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#2 AutoPilotOn
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Building a PC is as easy as electronics gets. Its literally plug and play. If your solder your doing something wrong.. or something really hardcore lol Your not literally building the parts.

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#3 ALBELtheWICKED
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If it's all just plug-and-play then I'm going to be leaning towards building it. Any exceptions to that, is there anything I could really screw up?

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#4 Smoke89
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Well since you aren't in a hurry to build you have plenty of time to become a pro. Just hanging out in these forums is a great way to learn about hardware honestly... you see all the recommendations for certain price ranges, we like to post news on new hardware and tech coming out, and from what I've seen most people on here know what they are doing in everything from simply building to overclocking.

First, read through the sticky at the top of this forum about buidling your own PC. You can also find various videos on the internet - these are a great way to orient yourself with how the hardware will fit together.

Secondly, start reading about parts. Sites such as anaandtech, tom's hardware, and bit tech all have a great amount of info to help you along the way.

Last, once you have become an expert (which only takes a few days of reading on the interwebs) put together what you feel is a good build. Think of it as your final exam. Post it up on here and we will help make it better if need be, or we may just fail you. Either way, you will end up with a great PC for a great price.

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#5 ionusX
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If it's all just plug-and-play then I'm going to be leaning towards building it. Any exceptions to that, is there anything I could really screw up?

ALBELtheWICKED

nothing really jsut have patience.. anything seemingly broken is fixable or workaroundable (that even a word).

building a pc takes all the skills of assembling a lego set, the patience of a dude reading a 10 dollar paperback, and simple sue of a screwdriver.

im serious when i say.. ive seen MONKEYS partially assemble a pc b4 ll even show you a video of it if you like :P

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#6 ALBELtheWICKED
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While I'm here and I've got your attention, do any of you keep up with any future tech articles? I've heard it said that the power of silicon will be about exhausted by the year 2020. They've got alternatives in mind such as Diamond with Borox impurities. They're growing diamonds in labs now through a process called carbon vapor deposition. Then they're working on Quantum Computing but there's a lot of interference issues and whatnot.

Anyone know of any impending revolutionary changes? We got any big technological leaps looming on the horizon or what?

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#7 mitu123
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Custom built>pre-built, after my 2nd custom build I will never buy pre-built again.

Funny thing is that it wasn't hard to learn to build them.

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#8 ALBELtheWICKED
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Since I'm waiting until around the end of the year, mostly for Skyrim, would I be better off waiting for new components to come out, or should I be bargain hunting or something? I dunno how fast things become obsolete or what.

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#9 AutoPilotOn
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Since I'm waiting until around the end of the year, mostly for Skyrim, would I be better off waiting for new components to come out, or should I be bargain hunting or something? I dunno how fast things become obsolete or what.

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well AMDs new bulldozers come out next month I believe. I'd at least wait to see some benchmarks and prices on those

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#10 powerman91
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No theres no need to wait for new components to come out. Cause anything new is gonna cost you a ton of money. Plus there are a lot of high quality products that are out now that will last for several years. Id advise you to go to newegg.com for all your computer parts. Thats who i go through and i think theyre great.

I guess it depends on how much you want to spend on your computer really?

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#11 AutoPilotOn
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If there is a microcenter near you they have pretty decent prices. Sometimes even cheaper than newegg.
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#12 powerman91
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If there is a microcenter near you they have pretty decent prices. Sometimes even cheaper than newegg. AutoPilotOn
I've never heard of microcenter before. I definitely dont have one in my area. lol

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#13 AutoPilotOn
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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]If there is a microcenter near you they have pretty decent prices. Sometimes even cheaper than newegg. powerman91

I've never heard of microcenter before. I definitely dont have one in my area. lol

There is one 30 min from me. They got good deals. Like free motherboard with any AMD CPU(probably not a great mobo though i donno). And the i5 2500k is 179.99 and they have bundle deals with nice motherbords for like 290 bucks

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#14 ionusX
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While I'm here and I've got your attention, do any of you keep up with any future tech articles? I've heard it said that the power of silicon will be about exhausted by the year 2020. They've got alternatives in mind such as Diamond with Borox impurities. They're growing diamonds in labs now through a process called carbon vapor deposition. Then they're working on Quantum Computing but there's a lot of interference issues and whatnot.

Anyone know of any impending revolutionary changes? We got any big technological leaps looming on the horizon or what?

ALBELtheWICKED

i do and that stuff is still billions of months away from reality

the next big thing is smaller and less power hungry computers

im talking the fusion APU crossing the cpu with a graphics card and getting awesome.

once fusion is out the gpu dies will shring to sub 30nm, northbridge will effectively cease to exist and mobo's will eventually loose about 1/4-1/5 their total size either that or get more bells and whistles.. BIOS will be dead in favr of a much more contemporary system thats easily useable.

id say if you DO build wait till june for fusion apu's then build cpu's will be cheaper games dont even fully use many sub 100 dollar cpu's as of yet and then we will see more other nifty bitz n pieces from other groups.. then build. i also wouldnt get to terribly attached to w/e gpu you coose come then..

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#15 mitu123
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If there is a microcenter near you they have pretty decent prices. Sometimes even cheaper than newegg. AutoPilotOn
There's one in my state though it's far away but looks worth it, there's a i5-2500k for less than 200 bucks, didn't think it was possible at this time. I hope to drive there, but for offline do you need a credit card or does cash simply work in store?
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#16 Elann2008
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If you could build entire lego models (not random models you made on your own), but the ones on the box, as a little kid; you can build your own PC. At least, that's what I believe. It's not difficult as you think, and it's very fun.
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#17 powerman91
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[QUOTE="powerman91"]

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]If there is a microcenter near you they have pretty decent prices. Sometimes even cheaper than newegg. AutoPilotOn

I've never heard of microcenter before. I definitely dont have one in my area. lol

There is one 30 min from me. They got good deals. Like free motherboard with any AMD CPU(probably not a great mobo though i donno). And the i5 2500k is 179.99 and they have bundle deals with nice motherbords for like 290 bucks

Yeah those are some pretty good deals. I don't have any place that has decent prices for PC components near me. Thats why I always go through newegg

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#18 ALBELtheWICKED
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Wow, looks like I'm not that far from a Micro Center. The funny thing is, there's two of them, but the online reviews are funny for one. Don't go to that one, it's a mom n' pop shop, it's not a real Micro Center! D:

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#20 istuffedsunny
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You go to newegg and pick out a CPU, noting the socket number. So then you go to the motherboard section and filter it to show only motherboards using that socket and pick one. It's that simple. Everything else is virtually guaranteed to be compatible, it's as simple as buying the well-reviewed parts.
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#21 mitu123
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Can someone answer my question?D=

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#22 Bozanimal
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Can someone answer my question?D=

mitu123
Microcenter takes cash. ;)
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#23 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Can someone answer my question?D=

Bozanimal
Microcenter takes cash. ;)

Thank you, now I'm going there hopefully, you just can't beat their prices, more impressive than newegg.
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#24 wis3boi
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You people and your microcenters make me jelly :(

But yea, always build your own. Buying a brand PC usually means difficult upgrading, overpaying, and cheaper parts.

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#25 Gambler_3
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My advise!

For your first ever build, pay someone to build it for you and watch closely or ask a friend for help if labour charges are too much in your country. Then once you have your first PC, slowly and steadily play with the hardware and learn. Then do the incremental upgrades yourself, the easiest things to upgrade are ram and graphics card while the most difficult can be casing or power supply. Buy a good easy to use casing that will help a lot and if you can afford one get a modular PSU.

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My first build wasn't so much a build, as transferring the innards into a new case, but it meant taking everything apart to do so. that was quite a good way to learn as I knew before hand that everything worked, took several photos for reference, then got to work moving it all into the new case. Once you start putting things together you realise that it is quite straightforward. While there are a multitude of different shaped connectors and plugs it actually simplifies things, as for any given plug there is usually only 1 thing you can plug it into. The big cable out of your power supply can only plug into your motherboard. The power socket on your graphics card only takes a particular cable from your power supply. the SATA cables are pretty generic linking cables, and so on. The only area that a lack of knowledge might bring you down is during part selection, but that is what forums like this are great for - you can post up ideas for what you want to build, and soon enough plenty of people post comments suggesting alternatives or highlights incompatible bits like a motherboard that won't fit the CPU, the wrong type of RAM, a power supply that isn't powerful enough, or just parts that look underpowered compared to the rest of the build.
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#27 kurruppt666
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you can save more if you build it. imo
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#28 ALBELtheWICKED
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I'm most likely going to build one. However, when I really start to get serious about it and I've saved up a little money I'm probably going to have people in this forum help me select like all of the components lol. There's just far too many to learn about and too many things to debate about which is better or worse. I'll probably come up with a price range of like $800-$1000 and see what people can come up with. I'll try to get the optimal recommendations and then see if I can't bargain hunt for deals on slightly better components if possible...

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#29 mitu123
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You people and your microcenters make me jelly :(

But yea, always build your own. Buying a brand PC usually means difficult upgrading, overpaying, and cheaper parts.

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Do you need a hug? And I've been through that with my 1st pre-built, my best upgrade was the Geforce 5800 FX, then after that custom build a few years later I was in heaven...and with AMD.
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#30 BPoole96
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I just built one myself and I am terrible at assembling things.

There are tons of video walkthroughs online that tell you exactly what to do

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#31 Bozanimal
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I'm most likely going to build one. However, when I really start to get serious about it and I've saved up a little money I'm probably going to have people in this forum help me select like all of the components lol. There's just far too many to learn about and too many things to debate about which is better or worse. I'll probably come up with a price range of like $800-$1000 and see what people can come up with. I'll try to get the optimal recommendations and then see if I can't bargain hunt for deals on slightly better components if possible...

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  1. Read this sticky
  2. Read these blogs (includes video)
  3. Visit this external sticky (particularly the "Sweet Spot" builds sticky and "What should I build/buy?")

Good luck with your new build!

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