Can I get a decent build for around 400 quid?

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#1 retodd33
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I'm not looking to spend much more than that, Not primarily for gaming, But I would at least like to run Minecraft at more than 5 FPS which it seems to on my laptop. I don't really know which parts I'm looking at having to get, so any input would be awesome, this would be my first build. So I'm more than willing to learn, that's part of the reason I'm bulding my own. But that also means I can't just sit on ebuyer choosing stuff as I don't know too much what it all does! Thanks in advance!
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#2 ionusX
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oh yeha easy you willing to assemble it yourself?? if so you can do far better than "just minecraft" ahahaahha

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#3 JonChaoZ
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If Newegg ships to the UK I would just recommend buying a DIY combo from them.

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#4 ionusX
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If Newegg ships to the UK I would just recommend buying a DIY combo from them.

JonChaoZ

they dont only USA canada and china..

however they have some outstanding sites out their for buying parts.. like better than newegg :o

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Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 (£28.72)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430 V2 (£32.39)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2V (£49.24)

Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 (£85.87)

Memory: Mushkin Silverline 4GB (£25.99)

Video Card: XFX ATI Radeon HD 6570 (£51.59)

Hard Drive: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB (£39.37)

Optical Drive: Sony 24x DVD±RW (£14.81)

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (£71.99)

£399.97

Should be more than capable of playing Minecraft as well as quite a few older games.

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#6 retodd33
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Yeah I'm really looking to do it myself, I half helped my previous build. Kinda like to know why I'm getting what i'm getting, but well, I'll learn. I'm in the UK yeah, I'm possibly going to use it to look into game design programs, like maybe Maya, so will the specs I need change dramaticly? What sorta stuff should I be looking at getting, and where from?
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Case: (£71.99)

£388.33

Should be more than capable of playing Minecraft as well as quite a few older games.

xxLordDavidxx
Er...Wow, thanks, thats kinda answered my question! Any body disagree with that?
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#8 JonChaoZ
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[QUOTE="xxLordDavidxx"]

Case: (£71.99)

£388.33

Should be more than capable of playing Minecraft as well as quite a few older games.

retodd33

Er...Wow, thanks, thats kinda answered my question! Any body disagree with that?

Nope, assuming you don't have your own Windows 7 install disk.

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#9 retodd33
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No, I don't altho....My dads business could get the pc so I don't pay the VAT so If I did have the extra 100 to spend, where would it be best placed? Would I just buy a better motherboard or processor? Any suggestions?
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#10 JonChaoZ
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Actually scratch that, if you didn't have to get the OS I'd get this instead.

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/XFX+ATI+Radeon+HD+6770+GDDR5+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+w%2F+FREE+DIRT3+Game%21+?productId=45570

Essentially, the video card has the most effect on gaming performance.

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No, I don't altho....My dads business could get the pc so I don't pay the VAT so If I did have the extra 100 to spend, where would it be best placed? Would I just buy a better motherboard or processor? Any suggestions?retodd33

£50 more would get you an i5 2500k which are pretty damn good, I think you'd need a better motherboard though. Instead of that, maybe look into a gtx 460 or something?

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#13 ionusX
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[QUOTE="retodd33"]No, I don't altho....My dads business could get the pc so I don't pay the VAT so If I did have the extra 100 to spend, where would it be best placed? Would I just buy a better motherboard or processor? Any suggestions?firefluff3

£50 more would get you an i5 2500k which are pretty damn good, I think you'd need a better motherboard though. Instead of that, maybe look into a gtx 460 or something?

460's are rather pricey but for 50 quid mroe you could get an hd 6790:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-hd-6790-pcie-21-(x16)-4200mhz-gddr5-gpu-840mhz-800-cores-2x-dvi-hdmi-displayport

most 460's are a good 10 pounds+ and thats including the inferior 460 SE

you can then use the rest of your saved money and get a nice i5 2400..

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-2400-s1155-sandy-bridge-quad-core-31ghz-gpu-850-mhz-6mb-cache-95w-retail

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#14 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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I hope im not too late... but I think this may be a better option and for the price you get a great Phenom II quad core and a GPU that can pretty much run anything and have the games looking great.

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#15 ionusX
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I hope im not too late... but I think this may be a better option and for the price you get a great Phenom II quad core and a GPU that can pretty much run anything and have the games looking great.

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/jawfloor thats not too sabby not as good as the build were currently tossing around in this thread though which boasts (atm) an hd 6790 and core i5 2400

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#16 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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/jawfloor thats not too sabby not as good as the build were currently tossing around in this thread though which boasts (atm) an hd 6790 and core i5 2400ionusX
I see that now... mind you that would cost him a lot more when you add it all up. Thats a extra 80 pounds for 5% performance boost. With the extra 80 pounds you could take out the HD 5770 from my build and put in a HD 6870.

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#17 retodd33
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Thanks for the advice, it depends slightly on my budget really doesnt it. I think that gives me a fairly good idea of what to go for. So am I better to go with the first option if i entend my budget, and Grey eyed's if not?
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#18 Gregoroth
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- If you're plan on gaming it's probably best to get a quad core CPU. A lot of modern games will require one to run at "recommended" settings and they're now affordable. You should get a lot of mileage out of one. I'd recommend an Athlon II X3 450 (£55.54) at the least or a Phenom II X4 840 (£75.77).

- A £40 motherboard should be fine for your needs (check to see if it comes with your required number of SATA ports. If you're bothered about SATA III or USB 3.0, you'll have to pay more).

- You can get 2x2GB sticks of 1333Mhz RAM for about £30 (brand doesn't matter, I've personally used Crucial and Corsair). You can use 1600Mhz speeds but I personally don't know what advantage this brings as I think those are only meant for use when overclocking AMD cpus.

- If you're serious about gaming, you should be looking in the £70-£100 range for a mid range graphics card. Closer to £150 for higher end (if running at high resolutions, you probably want 1GB video RAM). Otherwise, you may find you can get by with the built in graphics on the motherboard (if it has that, most do). Depends on what games you want to play (there's plenty of benchmarks and reviews to research). The AMD 760 and above should be decent in that respect.

- PSU, HDD, case are up to you. General advice is to buy a name-brand power supply of 450W+. When buying a powerful graphics card, it would be wise to check the manuals online to see if it has any special power requirements and then cross check that with the PSU you want.

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#19 retodd33
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Ok, thats great advice too, I think I'm looking at buying the lot thats listed in that picture, but I don't know which site that is, where should I be buying this stuff from? Also two things I forgot about, one is would this be WIFI enabled straight from the get go? Or do I need to buy an adapter, and also, I need two HDMI ports as I am looking to connect up two monitors to it. Any advice?
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#20 mucgoo
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Ok, thats great advice too, I think I'm looking at buying the lot thats listed in that picture, but I don't know which site that is, where should I be buying this stuff from? Also two things I forgot about, one is would this be WIFI enabled straight from the get go? Or do I need to buy an adapter, and also, I need two HDMI ports as I am looking to connect up two monitors to it. Any advice?retodd33
Scan's an excellent tech site. (site that picture list was compiled from) http://www.scan.co.uk/ free shipping with 20 posts at this fourm http://www.bit-tech.net/ participate in some of the spammy general threads the 5770 will support 2 monitors you'll need a wifi card/dongle However one alteration to ionusX build. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-phenom-ii-x4-955-black-deneb-core-s-am3-32ghz-8mb-cache-ht-3600mhz-125w-retail instead of the 840 he chose, slightly more cache which means its slightly faster
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#21 Gregoroth
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I'd recommend Ebuyer. Probably the UK's biggest online computer retailer. Easy to use site, superb support system if you have a problem, free delivery over £50 and cheap prices.