Can sound cards increase the strength of bass in speakers?

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#1 hydralisk86
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Can they? I would like to know.

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#2 ravenguard90
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I don't think so. It all depends on the wattage of your speakers, and the settings of your equalizer (if any) for whatever sound-producing software you're using.

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#3 -GeordiLaForge-
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Yes, they can increase the strength of lower frequencies signals. Not all sound cards have a digital EQ option though. What kind of sound card do you have?
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#4 hydralisk86
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Yes, they can increase the strength of lower frequencies signals. Not all sound cards have a digital EQ option though. What kind of sound card do you have?-GeordiLaForge-
I don't have one. I have the Logitech Z-Cinema Advanced Surround Sound System whose bass is weak, and i want to make it stronger. So i asked if sound cards can help with that.
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#5 ChubbyGuy40
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In your case no. That system has a USB hookup which you cannot plug into a sound card. But the answer to the topic question is yes if they have a digital EQ.

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#6 hydralisk86
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In your case no. That system has a USB hookup which you cannot plug into a sound card. But the answer to the topic question is yes if they have a digital EQ.

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What if the sound card is internal, in the PCI slot? There are such things, right?
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#7 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

In your case no. That system has a USB hookup which you cannot plug into a sound card. But the answer to the topic question is yes if they have a digital EQ.

hydralisk86

What if the sound card is internal, in the PCI slot? There are such things, right?

Most sound cards, the good ones at least, are all internal. They still do not have USB plugins because speakers/headsets that have USB always have their own drivers that they use for sound.

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#8 swazidoughman
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Sound cards are more about enabling higher resolution audio, not drowning it out with bass.

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#9 topher8668
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x-fi series sound cards are good and they come with a digital EQ. and good prices. but its internal id ont know if thats an issue
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#10 l34052
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I brought a set of Logitech Z2300 2.1 speakers for my pc and tried the setup with my onboard sound and it was pretty good, theTHX rated speakers and sub were very clear and the bass was tight and fast.

However when i tried the setup with a brand new Xfi card from creative it was like a completely different system sltogether. The crispness and clarity of the treble i just couldnt believe and the depth of the bass was dramatically improved from the already fairly good sound the cheapo ac97 onboard sound, it does indeed sound like a very good mid range seperates hifi system with fantstically tight and fast bass with great depth aswell.

Obviously it wont fill a large room with sound but for a normal lounge/office/computer room they will easily blow u out of ur seat and massage ur ears with beautiful sound.

So in conclusion, a good sound card will improve the clarity and depth of the sound but it really helps if u have a good speaker setup in the first place, nothing will make a cheap speaker sound great.

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#11 hydralisk86
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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

In your case no. That system has a USB hookup which you cannot plug into a sound card. But the answer to the topic question is yes if they have a digital EQ.

ChubbyGuy40

What if the sound card is internal, in the PCI slot? There are such things, right?

Most sound cards, the good ones at least, are all internal. They still do not have USB plugins because speakers/headsets that have USB always have their own drivers that they use for sound.

OK, so basically you're saying that internal or external sound cards won't work with 2.1 speaker systems that are connected to the computer through a USB connection?
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#12 l34052
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From what ive read most usb speakers tend to be low end budget models that if im honest are not really worth bothering with. Your best bet would be to get a set of proper speakers with a 3.5mm connection and take things from there.

Logitech Z2300 is not the cheapest out there but the sound quality they give more than justifies the price ten fold or more over a cheapo set.

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From what ive read most usb speakers tend to be low end budget models that if im honest are not really worth bothering with. Your best bet would be to get a set of proper speakers with a 3.5mm connection and take things from there.

Logitech Z2300 is not the cheapest out there but the sound quality they give more than justifies the price ten fold or more over a cheapo set.

l34052
I see. Well, could you answer this question: Is it true that internal or external sound cards won't work with 2.1 speaker systems that are connected to the computer through a USB connection?
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[QUOTE="l34052"]

From what ive read most usb speakers tend to be low end budget models that if im honest are not really worth bothering with. Your best bet would be to get a set of proper speakers with a 3.5mm connection and take things from there.

Logitech Z2300 is not the cheapest out there but the sound quality they give more than justifies the price ten fold or more over a cheapo set.

hydralisk86
I see. Well, could you answer this question: Is it true that internal or external sound cards won't work with 2.1 speaker systems that are connected to the computer through a USB connection?

Yeah it will bypass the soundcard completely....it's not that the speakers won't work, more like the sound card won't be doing anything.
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#15 l34052
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To be brutally honest with ui really dont know im afraid,ive never used usb speakers i always used the 3.5mm connection with my internal Xfi card.

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#16 l34052
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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"][QUOTE="l34052"]

From what ive read most usb speakers tend to be low end budget models that if im honest are not really worth bothering with. Your best bet would be to get a set of proper speakers with a 3.5mm connection and take things from there.

Logitech Z2300 is not the cheapest out there but the sound quality they give more than justifies the price ten fold or more over a cheapo set.

Ilikemyname420

I see. Well, could you answer this question: Is it true that internal or external sound cards won't work with 2.1 speaker systems that are connected to the computer through a USB connection?

Yeah it will bypass the soundcard completely....it's not that the speakers won't work, more like the sound card won't be doing anything.

That was my thought but i wasnt sure, thanks for clearing that up for me:)

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#17 hydralisk86
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To be brutally honest with ui really dont know im afraid,ive never used usb speakers i always used the 3.5mm connection with my internal Xfi card.

l34052
And this is for internal sound cards also? Sorry, I want to make sure about this.
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#18 Ilikemyname420
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Both Internal and external sound cards don't work with USB speakers, USB speakers are basically meant to be used without a sound card.

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#19 hydralisk86
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Both Internal and external sound cards don't work with USB speakers, USB speakers are basically meant to be used without a sound card.

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I see. Andy by USB speakers you mean speakers that connect to a PC? All speakers that work that way?

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#20 Ilikemyname420
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...Not really....now you got me wondering.

The guy back there mentioned the speakers you had were a USB connection(and now I'm not so sure)....is the wire you use to connect to the PC a rectangle head (like your mouse or keyboard) or is it like a headphone jack???

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#21 hydralisk86
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...Not really....now you got me wondering.

The guy back there mentioned the speakers you had were a USB connection(and now I'm not so sure)....is the wire you use to connect to the PC a rectangle head (like your mouse or keyboard) or is it like a headphone jack???

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It's a rectangular one.
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#22 Ilikemyname420
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Yeah that's a USB connection....Baiscally all speakers are analog,and the USB connection is digital. Your speakers basically take the digital signal and turn it into an analog signal within the speakers themselves (it's called a D/A converter)....sound cards on the other hand output into analog already so can only be used through analog connections.

So to put it in laymans it's like your speakers act like an external soundcard already....thus you can't use another sound card with it.

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#23 hydralisk86
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Yeah that's a USB connection....Baiscally all speakers are analog,and the USB connection is digital. Your speakers basically take the digital signal and turn it into an analog signal within the speakers themselves (it's called a D/A converter)....sound cards on the other hand output into analog already so can only be used through analog connections.

So to put it in laymans it's like your speakers act like an external soundcard already....thus you can't use another sound card with it.

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Doesn't that make it somewhat inferior? I mean I can't use a sound card to really improve my sound...
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For the most part it should have been fine but it seems the software is lacking because they SHOULD give you everything like what's in a basic sound card....like all you seem to be looking for is some kind of EQ (change the highs and lows) and it's not there...have you checked the software that came with it and clicked the sound icon in the system tray to see if there's any settings that might effect bass?
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For the most part it should have been fine but it seems the software is lacking because they SHOULD give you everything like what's in a basic sound card....like all you seem to be looking for is some kind of EQ (change the highs and lows) and it's not there...have you checked the software that came with it and clicked the sound icon in the system tray to see if there's any settings that might effect bass? Ilikemyname420
I was able to use the remote to raise or lower the bass, treble, volume, etc. So would it be a good idea to sell my speakers, which use a USB, for speakers that allow you to use an internal or external sound card?
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If it's really bothering you that bad, might very well be that they aren't right for you...if you really want to blast the roof off get a good sound card and a good set of non-USB PC speakers.... if you want to deafen everyone within a few miles though you get a soundcard with an optical output, a really good amplifier and a set of PAs hehehe(but that would run you a few thousand).

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If it's really bothering you that bad, might very well be that they aren't right for you...if you really want to blast the roof off get a good sound card and a good set of non-USB PC speakers.... if you want to deafen everyone within a few miles though you get a soundcard with an optical output, a really good amplifier and a set of PAs hehehe(but that would run you a few thousand).

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I think it'll be better to buy speakers not as expensive. I'm thinking about getting the Z-2300's and a good sound card, if my external one doesn't help enough.
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#28 Ilikemyname420
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[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"]

If it's really bothering you that bad, might very well be that they aren't right for you...if you really want to blast the roof off get a good sound card and a good set of non-USB PC speakers.... if you want to deafen everyone within a few miles though you get a soundcard with an optical output, a really good amplifier and a set of PAs hehehe(but that would run you a few thousand).

hydralisk86
I think it'll be better to buy speakers not as expensive. I'm thinking about getting the Z-2300's and a good sound card, if my external one doesn't help enough.

hehe Kinda figured.... Yeah sounds like a plan. USB speakers are great if you didn't wan't to buy anything(like a sound card) else or hook it up quickly between several devices with no sound cards and just listened to music once in a while, but they can't match an amplified sound card going through a set of amplified speakers, if you want it loud.
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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"][QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"]

If it's really bothering you that bad, might very well be that they aren't right for you...if you really want to blast the roof off get a good sound card and a good set of non-USB PC speakers.... if you want to deafen everyone within a few miles though you get a soundcard with an optical output, a really good amplifier and a set of PAs hehehe(but that would run you a few thousand).

I think it'll be better to buy speakers not as expensive. I'm thinking about getting the Z-2300's and a good sound card, if my external one doesn't help enough.

I'm using the Z-2300's with an HT Omega Claro+ soundcard. I've found the Z-2300's sound superb, even when not hooked up to my soundcard, sometimes I hook my Zune up to them to listen to music and they sound great. Overall a good choice, and well priced compared to other 2.1 systems in the same power range.
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#30 dbowman
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The soundcard i'm using has an option for "subwoofer gain", so yes, you should see some improvement with a soundcard.