Can you guys help me out with the spec of my laptop please(Acer Aspire 8930G)

Hi,I just think i made a huge huge mistake buying a laptop offplay.com, I looked at the reviews and mostly they are fine but IM wondering if any of you guys own an Acer Aspire 8930G,2.2 ghz core 2 duo with a 512 GT gfx card and 4 gig mem.I noticed the price was halved at play.com so I promptly bought it for £629 instead of £999, I just looked and they have all gone out of stock,and I'm not sure i should be pleased i got one in time or not.

IM not expecting it to play all the latest games but it runs fine playing GTA iv so that's ok.

Wow a 9700m. Its a half decent mobile gpu, probably could get better for the price (999 euros) but it isn't terrible the deal makes it pretty good.IvanElk

The 9700m GT is an overclocked 9600m GT, which in turn is roughly the same speed as a desktop 8600GT. It isn't terrible, but I'd try to go for something outfitted with a mobility 4650/70 if it fits in your budget.

[QUOTE="IvanElk"]Wow a 9700m. Its a half decent mobile gpu, probably could get better for the price (999 euros) but it isn't terrible the deal makes it pretty good.MaoTheChimp

The 9700m GT is an overclocked 9600m GT, which in turn is roughly the same speed as a desktop 8600GT. It isn't terrible, but I'd try to go for something outfitted with a mobility 4650/70 if it fits in your budget.

i say just keepo this and start saving for the MSI gus w/ hd 5670 bundle coming at the top of june.. significantly better basically you would be getting the same preformance as your laptop with an ACYUAL 9800gt in it (no a 9800m) which is still pretty respectable to todays standards.

ionosux,the hd 4650\4670 is exactly equal to the desktop counterparts with a 50mhz underclock in core clock which can be easily overclocked to desktop levels.so if he gets a notebook with hd 4650\70 hd 5650\70 there's not much reason for waiting for gus

ionosux,the hd 4650\4670 is exactly equal to the desktop counterparts with a 50mhz underclock in core clock which can be easily overclocked to desktop levels.so if he gets a notebook with hd 4650\70 hd 5650\70 there's not much reason for waiting for gus

onfire23

the hd 5670's onboard equal isnt equal to one.. in fact its probably closer to the hd 5550 video card in preformance. NEVER draw the line between the 4670 and 5670 they preform on two COMPLETELY different levels. the 5670 outpreform the 9800gt in alot of games the 4670 struggles to keep up with an 8800gs/9600gso

to suggest different is non sense.

i never said 4670 was equal to 5670. i said that in case of 46xx and 56xx series ati's laptop and desktop counterparts are almost equal with the difference only in clock rate.so it would suit him better to get a 56xx equipped laptop instead of waiting for GUS which you have to lug around(which defeats the purpose of a laptop). and anyway 5670 outperforms 4670 by 15-20% which as you say is not on a completely different level.you also have to note that the memory in 5670 is aout 50% more clocked than 4670 which probably contributes to majority of that gap.

memory doesnt make a huge difference in preformance really.

how about the 5670's VASTLY larger pixel fill rate and shader operations out numbering the 4670's almost 2 to 1 and the double memory bandwidth. the memory clock actually effects a gpu's preformance in very minor ways hence why only when you jump up shader and core clock in an overlock do you start to see truly dramatic improvements.

case in point hd 5750 vs 5750 vapor-x

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/25786-sapphire-hd-5750-1gb-vapor-x-video-card-review-13.html

wheres that 5750 stock at.. oh right 1fps behind it :P

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/HD5750-VAP/HD5750-VAP-29.jpg

there it is again 4 fps behind now.

in fact the only reason one alters the meory clocks at all is to make the alterations of a cards core or shader more stable.

The case you just pointed out had 5750 and vapour x which has gddr5 ram which is plenty sufficent and over for the 128bit bus hence there is no difference for a really meagre 10mhz overclock of memory.but the case of 56xx series is different the core is clocked at 775mhz instead of 750 on the 4670 -this increases the performance slightly.next,the gddr3 memory gives signicant gains on overclocking especially in the ati 46xx\56xx series of cards because the 128bit bus can handle even more because of the usually lower clocked gddr3 memory instead of higher clcoked gddr5.if you want proof i have vaio fw45gj which has 512 mb ati 4650 ,overclocking the core was unstable and instead i overclocked the memory from 667 mhz to 825mhz which is perfectly stable and made me score above 7500 in 3dmark06 which is an increase of 1050 points.similarly my friend has a notebook with 5650 and memory overclock also gives gains to him too.in higher end cards where the memory bus is almost saturated you do not get gains from memory overclock,but in lower-midrange cards you definitely get gains.

At the end of the day 5670 is the better card but it is not like 2x better or anything,noteven close.

I don't mind about how good the GFX card is as long asi get to play some good games on it like MW2? GTA IV?,i know it wont be any good for the latest things but its fine if i can get games like that working.I seen a guy doing a benchmark on it playing crysis at medium settings it looked a little laggy but if he turned off the shaders i think even that game would run smooth at medium.IM not after a powerhouse just bang for my buck with the benefit of playing a few good games. still waiting for delivery lol,cant wait. Thanks guys for taking the time to respond.

ionosux,the hd 4650\4670 is exactly equal to the desktop counterparts with a 50mhz underclock in core clock which can be easily overclocked to desktop levels.so if he gets a notebook with hd 4650\70 hd 5650\70 there's not much reason for waiting for gus

onfire23

Sorry but...GUS? and do you mean HD as in HD1080p if so then it is that. also are you saying i can overclock it? TIA sorry i thought i knew everything lol...i dont.

I dont know if I gaveyou the correct details guys so I have copied and pasted everything I can about it,thank you.

• With Free copy of Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade
• Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T6600 (2.2 GHz, 800 MHz FSB)
• Memory: 4 GB RAM (2GB + 2GB) Max 6
• HD Capacity: 500 GB (5400 Rpm)
• Screen Size: 18.4" Full HD 1080p Acer CineCrystal LCD
• Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GT 512MB
• Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
• Optical Drive: Blu-ray Disc/Super-Multi DL combo drive
• Card Reader: Multi-in-1 card reader
• Wireless: Acer Nplify 802.11a/b/g/n
• Bluetooth: 2.0+EDR
• Battery: 8-cell Li-ion battery
• WebCam: Acer Crystal Eye HD webcam
• USB Slots: 4
• TV Tuner: DVB-T Mini-card
• Color A Cover: Normal wi IMR
• Remote: RC804V-B_EU
• Finger Print Reader: Acer fingerprint reader
• Battery Life: Up to 2-hours
• Ports:
• ExpressCard/54 slot
• 6-in-1 card reader (SD, MMC, MMCplus, MS, MS PRO, xD)
• Four USB 2.0 ports
• HDMI port with HDCP support
• DisplayPort
• eSATA port
• Consumer infrared (CIR) port
• External display (VGA) port
• RF-in jack
• Headphone/speaker/line-out jack with S/PDIF
• Software:
• Acer Empowering Technology (Acer eAudio, ePower, eDataSecurity, eRecovery, eSettings Management)
• Acer Arcade Deluxe featuring Cinema, Album, Music, Acer HomeMedia
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• Acer Bio-Protection
• Acer Crystal Eye
• Acer GridVista
• Acer Launch Mana

upsydaisy

you're video card is good for playing new games at medium settings on 720p and higher.dont expect to run at high settings and 1080p/you're video card is pretty decent for a laptop,cheer up:).if you want a comparison on how you,re video card fars against others please visit notebookcheck.net.they have dtailed info on laptop video cards and how latest games run on it. and by the way by hd i was meaning ati's hd video card series

Hey onfire23... Thanks,yes i bought the laptop understanding i could no way even attempt to play games like the new MW2 and other brand new games so what you said to me is a plus,I would have been happy playing the old need for speed games and battlefield 2(which i have never had yet!) I never had a pc capable of running BF2 because of the direct X and vista just came out and it was all a mess but anyway what you said about being able to use medium settings on new games at 720p I was not expecting such good news!

SO if i run the game under the HD rez and perhaps turn down shaders on games that struggle on medium settings with 720,making it standard rez I should get even more help to power the latest games?

I'M not interested in playing games in HD but if i can its a bonus,i would be Happy with normal rez.

Thank you all your a real help i appreciate it,please keep up the good crack.

Well I got my laptop with Blu ray and windows 7 upgrade. as soon as i attempted to use the blu ray movie I had waiting to test it told me Vista was going into lower quality or something and would have to use 256 colour? I found out its because SOny do not licence blue ray codecs officially so MS cant put them onto any pc? dam wtf so why do people sell them with blu ray knowing this? also its a 4 gig mem and i got windows 7 uprgrade but now i also found out that i cant use the upgrade to go to 64bit unless my original os is set at 64....its not its set at 32 so this means i have to upgrade to only 32 bit windows 7? oh great so the shop ripped me on this also because i went for 4 gigs of mem I canonly use 2 because vista wont recognise more than 2 only in 64 bit mode...wtf this is like a total nightmare lol ahh dam it.

Sorry i know its a rant,its nearly 5 am i have been looking into all this all night trying to solve the problems only to find out they cant be fixed?

Hanging for help.

sorry dude you,re stuck with 32 bit . the only solution is to buy another retail copy of windows 7. as far as playing blu ray discs are concerned i think the laptop you bought would have some proprietary software like power dvd or windvd-bd installed.because most laptops with blu ray players have them.my sony vaio has win dvd- bd which plays blu ray discs without problems

sorry dude you,re stuck with 32 bit . the only solution is to buy another retail copy of windows 7. as far as playing blu ray discs are concerned i think the laptop you bought would have some proprietary software like power dvd or windvd-bd installed.because most laptops with blu ray players have them.my sony vaio has win dvd- bd which plays blu ray discs without problems

onfire23

Onfire your information is not correct,even with my limited knowledge i know I can still use the 64bit version of windows 7 to do a full complete install,as long as i have all my drivers ready to put back onto my laptop after installing....why would you tell me its not possible to do this?

As for the blu ray,it does not come with propiotory software because its ilegal for MS to do so as they have no rights to licance it from sony at this time,so a third party or a new software package will now also be sought and installed.

If I do a custom install of the windows 64 bit it will wipe my drive of everything and install 64 bit,I got 32 bit and 64 bit upgrade,I have now put the 32 bit upgrade in with a lot of hassle,I had to delete my MS SOwifi as it was conflicting and also had to take out some bloatwear,its all up and running fine.I now need to go get myself a player that can handle blu ray playback. If you have any suggestions please let me know.

Settled for windows 7 32 bit because its using 3 gig,i always thought it only used 2...oh well this will do for now.I found a compatible video programme power dvd pro 10,works well with blu ray on the laptop,even converts to many 3d formats.now I just have to figure out how to get my webcam working.

win dvd bd on my sony is a third party program preinstalled by sony.i think that most manufacturers would put third party blu ray players in their notebooks to reduce the hassle for customers

Hey my screen is 1080P but when i close any windows down or minimize they look laggyso i altered my rez but now all fonts and everything seem to fat,it fixed the laggy windows tho.IM not interested using the full 1080p as i can get more games working on it,any ideas as to how to make my windows not look so fat and retarded? TIA.

Above poater...

I think your ok buying a Sony product you would get BD codecs with it been Sony.I had a prog installed as default but soon as you put a BD in the windows went into 256 colour mode and the quality was pathetic so I DLa copy of cyberlink power DVD and it works great.