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I can, and I just did. Some games are meant to be played on PCs, shooters, MMORPGs, MMOFPSes, lots and lots of single-player RPGs.
nowadays indie games dont push the hardware anymore.I can because many of the games in my library and not multiplats, and I need the hardware for other things besides gaming
wis3boi
Just for gamings sake, its getting harder and harder to.
Optimization thrown out he window, hell a lot of games don't even give options to adjust for Graphics anymore!
A lot of people blame the consoles, which isn't the problem. Thats like Blaming the government for all the outsourcing of jobs.. Thats entirely the greed of the corporations fault there! (but, but, there is no incentive to keep them here, well shouldn't the stability of the economy be enough, or would more money for the deepening pockets outweigh the stability of the economy?... SAD)
The problem is a lot of developers simply are extremely lazy when it comes to developing for pc anymore. It isn't consoles that are the problem.. Its that these devs/publishers make more profit off of consoles, and theirfor use that justification for being lazy with the pc versions, or simply porting over from consoles.
Its the Devs that have the perception of: "well, we don't make near as much off the pc version of the game, so why should we put more into it (including optimization) when we can get a much better return on the console versions". Which the problem isn't the consoles themselves, but the View of these devs/publishers which know they get much better return of profit from the consoles. Greed in another words, too bad so many people here, and elsewhere won't let that get through their thick skulls.
So yeah It is getting harder and harder for me to justify upgrading pc parts, strictly for gaming purposes.
That being said, Indie games are starting to flood the market, and not take hardware that doesn't exist yet to play it decently!
Just for gamings sake, its getting harder and harder to.
Optimization thrown out he window, hell a lot of games don't even give options to adjust for Graphics anymore!
A lot of people blame the consoles, which isn't the problem. Thats like Blaming the government for all the outsourcing of jobs.. Thats entirely the greed of the corporations fault there! (but, but, there is no incentive to keep them here, well shouldn't the stability of the economy be enough, or would more money for the deepening pockets outweigh the stability of the economy?... SAD)
The problem is a lot of developers simply are extremely lazy when it comes to developing for pc anymore. It isn't consoles that are the problem.. Its that these devs/publishers make more profit off of consoles, and theirfor use that justification for being lazy with the pc versions, or simply porting over from consoles.
Its the Devs that have the perception of: "well, we don't make near as much off the pc version of the game, so why should we put more into it (including optimization) when we can get a much better return on the console versions". Which the problem isn't the consoles themselves, but the View of these devs/publishers which know they get much better return of profit from the consoles. Greed in another words, too bad so many people here, and elsewhere won't let that get through their thick skulls.
So yeah It is getting harder and harder for me to justify upgrading pc parts, strictly for gaming purposes.
That being said, Indie games are starting to flood the market, and not take hardware that doesn't exist yet to play it decently!
Lach0121
I don't think that's really exactly right. The PS3 gets the same treatment as PCs, as in nobody builds a whole new version for it, they just port it over from 360. That's how it's basically always been though, the PS2 to Xbox/GC were the same way, PS1 to N64 etc. It's not a PC/consoles thing, it's just having one lead development platform (usually the weaker console) to keep costs down thing. The only difference is that good PC exclusives are getting more and more uncommon, and console exclusives like FF7, Metal gear solid, and Halo aren't getting ported to PC as much, or at least that's how I feel.
Yeah, but that's because my 8800GT won't really cut it with the newest games at 1080p. I'm thinking about getting a Gigabyte 560Ti OC 1GB and another 2GBs of RAM, but after that I'm doubtful I'll ever upgrade again.
I want to upgrade to the next line of Intel CPUs (Ivy Bridge I think,) get 16GB of DDR3 (because **** you that's why :P ) and get another GTX 570.
I'd love to get 2 more of my monitors for Nvidia surround, but it's really hard to find ones like mine is usuable/working condition. And they take up a ton of deskspace. Dunno if I'd want those or a 3D monitor/projector more.
Maybe right now you don't need to upgrade to keep up with consoles because they are using 5+ year old technology. However, new consoles are coming. Maybe not for a few more years, but they will eventually be here. PC gamers will need to upgrade for sure by then.
I will be upgrading my gpu in the next week or so, other than that I'm glad PC gaming isn't like "OMG I need to upgrade again within a few months of my last upgrade." Because that's how how I thought it was before switching from xbox :P. I do still have bills to pay, so I'm upgrading one piece at a time, not that everything is a must at this point.
since we are talking about upgrades,whats the point of having 12 gb plus ram?games hardly max anymore than 2gb ram.8gb should be sufficient.nope,8gb is overkill too.4gb is sufficient enough for almost any game.bf3 could change that thoughshreshtosome of us do a lot of editing, which eats ram like a fat kid eats cake
since we are talking about upgrades,whats the point of having 12 gb plus ram?games hardly max anymore than 2gb ram.8gb should be sufficient.nope,8gb is overkill too.4gb is sufficient enough for almost any game.bf3 could change that thoughshreshtoYeh I'm upgrading only because of BF3 (gpu 6870 or 6950 and ram 8gb). I can pretty much run any other game on high :)
Yeah, becasue I don't only game on it, Firefox takes up a whole lotta memsz and GPU power (flash video processing)
Yes, because my 4850 + Q8200 just won't cut the mustard anymore, not to mention the PC's had networking problems since day one. If it's a choice between spending £500 for a new computer than can't play games, and spending £800 on a beastly gaming pc, I know which is the better choice.
I went from a dual core 3.6, 4 gigs ram and a gtx 285 to a quad 4.0, 8 gigs and a gtx580 a few months ago, I didnt really need to upgrade my old rig maxed almost everything, but my new rig just runs everything better. I also wanted a dx 11 card, but I dont see the need to upgrade in the next few years unless we starting more then bad console ports, and I will quit pc gaming if I just have to upgrade because developers dont want to optimize. I wont upgrade for 1 or 2 pc exclusives if I can run everything else just fine.
Yes, because I'm getting a new PC this week.
mitu123
Bought an entirely new one for BF3 huh? Don't even deny it. :P
My Radeon 4770 and Phenom II 945 still does the job, but there's definitely room for improvement. I'm not too inclined to spend $250+ on a new GPU. I do have my eye on the Radeon 6950 2GB, which I might get just for the hell of it one of these days, in the near future.
Other games as well.:o
mitu123
My "upgrade" pretty much turned into an entirely new build I think the only thing I took from my old computer was my video card.
And all pretty much for BF3, SWTOR, a few other titles I'm really looking forward to.
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Other games as well.:o
airshocker
My "upgrade" pretty much turned into an entirely new build I think the only thing I took from my old computer was my video card.
And all pretty much for BF3, SWTOR, a few other titles I'm really looking forward to.
Mine is an entire new build besides the cpu which isn't out yet and the 2 GTX 460s I kept. I want to get revenge on Crysis, Metro and GTAIV+expansions in addation to new games.Personally i cant.i mean i can pretty much max any console ports i play nowadays.it seems so useless to even bother with upgrading.why would i upgrade if the tech dont push the limit?so,do you guys justify your upgrading?shreshtoI upgraded when it's NEEDED....not just cause I feel like it or can...
I was going to for BF3 and Rage but Im not going to anymore - not getting either game. Apparently I can Deus Ex 3 at good settings with my rig so Ill just sit tight for a while more. GamesterpheonixWhy not BF3? I still don't know personally about RAGE. I like the PLOT (see the opening cinematic on gametrailers), but the gameplay looks meh so far to me.
[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]I was going to for BF3 and Rage but Im not going to anymore - not getting either game. Apparently I can Deus Ex 3 at good settings with my rig so Ill just sit tight for a while more. FelipeInsideWhy not BF3? I'm guessing the beta gave him a horrible taste even though it won't be like that in the final build, in terms of graphics and stability at least.
Why not BF3? I'm guessing the beta gave him a horrible taste even though it won't be like that in the final build, in terms of graphics and stability at least. I've heard the graphics are great though.... stability of course you can't judge on a beta...[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]I was going to for BF3 and Rage but Im not going to anymore - not getting either game. Apparently I can Deus Ex 3 at good settings with my rig so Ill just sit tight for a while more. mitu123
[QUOTE="mitu123"]I'm guessing the beta gave him a horrible taste even though it won't be like that in the final build, in terms of graphics and stability at least. I've heard the graphics are great though.... stability of course you can't judge on a beta... Graphics lack a real ultra setting despite saying it is there in the menu which means the final product is going to look amazing and more demanding, but the good looks great though.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Why not BF3?FelipeInside
Personally i cant.i mean i can pretty much max any console ports i play nowadays.it seems so useless to even bother with upgrading.why would i upgrade if the tech dont push the limit?so,do you guys justify your upgrading?shreshtoI am not sure I understand what you are saying... Are you saying you can't justify upgrading your PC anymore because you currently are able to max settings on current PC games? 5 years down the road do you still think you will be maxing these settings?
My cpu is getting on in years (q6600) and my motherboard is a bit restrictive. I'm also limited to ddr2. I'm probably going to do the big update to ivy bridge next year while keeping my 6970 although if nothing really demanding is being released and my system doesn't die on me after almost 6 years, then I might wait until haswell.
I find it's still pretty powerful. I myself have a Q6600, 8GB DDR2 RAM and a GTX470 and it runs every game on HIGH... I reckon I'll still get 1-2 more years out of it....My cpu is getting on in years (q6600) and my motherboard is a bit restrictive. I'm also limited to ddr2. I'm probably going to do the big update to ivy bridge next year while keeping my 6970 although if nothing really demanding is being released and my system doesn't die on me after almost 6 years, then I might wait until haswell.
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