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#1 TrooperManaic
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I used the search feature and havent found any useful information also google hasnt been my friend on this topic.

Basically I heard intel is releaseing new i7 processors but there is little information about it. I want to know if I should just go ahead and buy my I7 or should I wait alittle longer, I am desperate need of more processing power.

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#2 Tezcatlipoca666
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You mean Sandy Bridge?

Waiting isn't necessary, you can upgrade now.

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#3 ionusX
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I used the search feature and havent found any useful information also google hasnt been my friend on this topic.

Basically I heard intel is releaseing new i7 processors but there is little information about it. I want to know if I should just go ahead and buy my I7 or should I wait alittle longer, I am desperate need of more processing power.

TrooperManaic

the new core i7 sandy bridges(1155 socket (new one)) are core i7 neahelms (1156/1136 socket (old ones))with better integrated video and use less power.. thats about it. otherwise they prorm nearly identically. omitting the power and the heat and the integrated graphic chipset their one and the same.

i consider the sandy bridge cpu's to be the pentium D all over again

so theres not much reason to get so excited

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#4 Iantheone
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Yeah, The current i7s are much faster than anything you will need for years to come.
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I used the search feature and havent found any useful information also google hasnt been my friend on this topic.

Basically I heard intel is releaseing new i7 processors but there is little information about it. I want to know if I should just go ahead and buy my I7 or should I wait alittle longer, I am desperate need of more processing power.

TrooperManaic
Yeah its a great processor, but you may need a new motherboard and ram .
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#6 DukeDelta
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This thread is full of blasted lies. The i7 is indeed a great processer, and will continue to be. But the i5-2400 was benched on anandtech to beat every i7 in gaming performance but the i7-980x and costs significantly LESS then any i7 processer. If you stacked the new i7-2600k, in gaming it would beat every processer on the market (the i7-980x should still be used in some professional applications). If you were asking to go from the i7-950 to the i7-2600k, maybe I would say it's a bad idea. But waiting two weeks for either a big discount in price or a big increase in performance, definitely worth it.
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#7 ionusX
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This thread is full of blasted lies. The i7 is indeed a great processer, and will continue to be. But the i5-2400 was benched on anandtech to beat every i7 in gaming performance but the i7-980x and costs significantly LESS then any i7 processer. If you stacked the new i7-2600k, in gaming it would beat every processer on the market (the i7-980x should still be used in some professional applications). If you were asking to go from the i7-950 to the i7-2600k, maybe I would say it's a bad idea. But waiting two weeks for either a big discount in price or a big increase in performance, definitely worth it.DukeDelta

your level 1 and im assuming your also unaware that anandtech is on intel's payroll :P of course their going to favor intel's "new product" over their old one. i have gaming results from zol and donaminhaber.. never mind techpowerup and hardocp that say that the 2600k = core i7 neahelm of the same clock speed.. and more importantly loses to it in a few games and applications. as a gaming cpu its = / < than an i7 neahelm but has 1 less pin on the socket and uses less power and has a better integrated video (integrated went from equaling a radeon 9800pro to equaling a radeon hd 2400pro)

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#8 JimmyJumpy
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This thread is full of blasted lies. DukeDelta

Someone who purposefully tells things that aren't true, is a liar. Someone who gives information based on other people's assumed knowledge, is misguided.

So, here's a bar of soap which hopefully will fit in your mouth ;)

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just a little longer..almost...breathe
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#11 Tezcatlipoca666
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I maintain that waiting isn't necessary.

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#12 DukeDelta
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If the savings are going to be around $100 vs an i7-950 (CPU price is around $220 for the i5-2500k, and $300 i7-950, while mobo prices will be cheaper for LGA1155 then they will be for LGA-1156. Mind you I could be wrong here, do mobo manufacturers inflate prices for new sockets short term?) for what preliminary benchmarks say is just as good as a nehalem, and you only have to wait two weeks... Well I think it's worth seeing if anandtech was right :). I'm not made of money and cannot afford to potentially spend $100 to get a computer two weeks faster.
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#13 ionusX
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>level 1 I had 1500 posts and lost my account, honestly I was stupid back then because I frequented system wars. I only got back here because the site i regularly go to is down. I mentioned anandtech because they have the most comprehensive coverage on sandy bridge, and they're far from on intels payroll. There is NOTHING on HardOCP or Techpowerup about sandy bridge vs nehalem performance, unless it's hidden in the forums. Link me to zol or donothanhaber.DukeDelta

my apologies ment to sya inpai not zol.. zol is gpu's only they dont cover gpgpu's and laptop chips

http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/139335.htm

hope you like chinese dialects as much as i do :P

in retrospect this is the 2500k (core i5) sandy bridge but it stands as an example of what im talking about. the 2600k vs a core i7 would have had the same level of improvement before you start adding proper gpu's. as you can see in about 6/10 game benchmarks it equals the core i5 661 (hd x4500 integrated) and in one specific case it LOSES to the core i5 neahelm (bfbc2). and it still cant play pro evo soccer 2011. and when it does exceed a 3 or less fps improvement on its own it never exceeds 8fps gains over its little brother and still can achieve playable fps in a variety of modern titles. id be interested to see how it prforms with gpu's in the chamber but i imagine this trend would continue. yes the sandy bridge is powerful but its not much better than neahelm.. your better off waiting on either westmere core's later on or the ivy bridge which will succed sandy bridge in the end of 2011

im betting any amount of money that anandtech is talking out of their face.. or has a fluke result. in fact i cant even find their results at all lol

oh look more inpai on the 2600k with an actual gpu (gtx 580)

ooh look its loosing again

http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7944&pageid=7687

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#14 DukeDelta
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Thank you for quoting sources, anandtechs (craptastic admittidly) results are here. http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/11 Turbo mode is not enabled on the CPUs. They picked some weird games, but I don't see any reason that they would favor the new i5-2400, I believed they were picked as the games were in their test suite. >Edit Honestly that looked like a win for sandy, the only game there was a significant differance in, the CPU bound starcraft 2 it won by a large margin. Both processers seemed like overkill for most games. Reading more now. I swear to god I'm not trying to be purposely diffucult here, but I see games that are only a few frames apart as GPU bound, meaning both CPUs are overkill. I think you can take from this waiting for the sandy bridge i7 isn't that important though, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't get the less powerful i5 if you're only worried about practical results. >Edit2 Nothing on the i5-2500k except IGP performance then? Hmm... that's the one I'm excited about. I still do believe this is by far the best option as it is FAR cheaper then current solutions and anandtech claims it delivers no worse performance.
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#15 Iantheone
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Yeah, so pretty much just get an i7. Its far more than you will need for a while.
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#16 JimmyJumpy
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Thank you for quoting sources, anandtechs (craptastic admittidly) results are here. http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/11 Turbo mode is not enabled on the CPUs. They picked some weird games, but I don't see any reason that they would favor the new i5-2400, I believed they were picked as the games were in their test suite. >Edit Honestly that looked like a win for sandy, the only game there was a significant differance in, the CPU bound starcraft 2 it won by a large margin. Both processers seemed like overkill for most games. Reading more now. I swear to god I'm not trying to be purposely diffucult here, but I see games that are only a few frames apart as GPU bound, meaning both CPUs are overkill. I think you can take from this waiting for the sandy bridge i7 isn't that important though, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't get the less powerful i5 if you're only worried about practical results. >Edit2 Nothing on the i5-2500k except IGP performance then? Hmm... that's the one I'm excited about. I still do believe this is by far the best option as it is FAR cheaper then current solutions and anandtech claims it delivers no worse performance.DukeDelta

So, were you lying? Or just misguided... and give me back what's left of my bar of soap ;)

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Yeah, so pretty much just get an i7. Its far more than you will need for a while.Iantheone

DO NOT do that just yet. WAIT for the blasted 1155 socket cpus to release and then the current i5 and i7 will drop in price. Heck it is already happening if you look around stores.

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#18 blaznwiipspman1
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don't blow your load just yet

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#19 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Yeah, so pretty much just get an i7. Its far more than you will need for a while.blaznwiipspman1

DO NOT do that just yet. WAIT for the blasted 1155 socket cpus to release and then the current i5 and i7 will drop in price. Heck it is already happening if you look around stores.

Really, the price drops arent going to be that amazing.
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#20 blaznwiipspman1
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Yeah, so pretty much just get an i7. Its far more than you will need for a while.Iantheone

DO NOT do that just yet. WAIT for the blasted 1155 socket cpus to release and then the current i5 and i7 will drop in price. Heck it is already happening if you look around stores.

Really, the price drops arent going to be that amazing.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067i5 760 for $195 with free shipping, price drop of $20 and the new cpus arent even released yet.

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#21 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

DO NOT do that just yet. WAIT for the blasted 1155 socket cpus to release and then the current i5 and i7 will drop in price. Heck it is already happening if you look around stores.

blaznwiipspman1

Really, the price drops arent going to be that amazing.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067i5 760 for $195 with free shipping, price drop of $20 and the new cpus arent even released yet.

When youre spending that much money $20 is nothing. Like I said the price drops wont be all that big.
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#22 fishing666
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] Really, the price drops arent going to be that amazing. Iantheone

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067i5 760 for $195 with free shipping, price drop of $20 and the new cpus arent even released yet.

When youre spending that much money $20 is nothing. Like I said the price drops wont be all that big.

$20 is the difference between a steak dinner and a lobster dinner..