Cant wait for the 4870!

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#1 PC_X360
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Any benchmarks of the 4870 yet?

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#2 matrixian
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None yet. I can't wait either. I might get it instead of the 4850. I heard Ati originally planned for it to be priced lower than 299$, thinking that they weren't a threat to nvidia's new cards.
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#3 Marfoo
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It's still under NDA, so no, no benchmarks, although ATI's official slides say that it will out perform the GeForce 9800 GTX by a 40% margin. EDIT: I misread the slide, 40% better than the 9800GTX, not the GX2.
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It's still under NDA, so no, no benchmarks, although ATI's official slides say that it will out perform the GeForce 9800 GTX by a 40% margin. EDIT: I misread the slide, 40% better than the 9800GTX, not the GX2.Marfoo

9800GX2 is as fast as the GTX 280 and how much faster is the 9800GX2 than the 9800GTX?

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#5 Zoso-8
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"]It's still under NDA, so no, no benchmarks, although ATI's official slides say that it will out perform the GeForce 9800 GTX by a 40% margin. EDIT: I misread the slide, 40% better than the 9800GTX, not the GX2.PC_X360

9800GX2 is as fast as the GTX 280 and how much faster is the 9800GX2 than the 9800GTX?

A good margin. If the 4870 even comes close to the GX2, expect Nvidia to drastically drop the price on the GX2.

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#6 Marfoo
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The 9800GX2 is anywhere from 10% to 75% faster than the 9800GTX depending on the title, in most cases it was about 30% to 40% faster. I think that the HD 4870 will get very near the 9800GX2, so in Crossfire these things must be superb. EDIT : TechPowerUp puts the 9800GX2 at an average of 24% faster than the 9800GTX from a pool of 12 different games, 3 versions of 3DMark, at all resolutions.
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#7 Jamiemydearx3
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I think a HD 4870 and a GTX 260 will have very similar performence.
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I think a HD 4870 and a GTX 260 will have very similar performence.Jamiemydearx3

It better not!

The 4870 is supposed to be closer to the gtx280.

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#9 RayvinAzn
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It better not!

The 4870 is supposed to be closer to the gtx280.

McJugga
I'd be happy if a $300 card performed as well as a $400 card. More the better obviously, but I wouldn't be upset if the HD4870 performed "only" as good as the GTX260.
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[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]I think a HD 4870 and a GTX 260 will have very similar performence.McJugga

It better not!

The 4870 is supposed to be closer to the gtx280.

No it isnt. Its actually suppose to be up against the 9800gtx, the HD 4850 is suppose to be up against the 8800gt.

Get your facts straight mate.

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#11 Mtnes
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how much faster is the GX2 compared to the 260 ? Which would perform better for the price ?
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#12 Jamiemydearx3
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how much faster is the GX2 compared to the 260 ? Which would perform better for the price ?Mtnes
9800 GX2 and a GTX 280 have very similar performence.

EDIT: GX2 is probably 20% faster

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#13 RayvinAzn
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No it isnt. Its actually suppose to be up against the 9800gtx, the HD 4850 is suppose to be up against the 8800gt.

Get your facts straight mate.

Jamiemydearx3

Price-wise maybe. Performance-wise, the HD4850 comes surprisingly close to the GTX 260.

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[QUOTE="McJugga"]

[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]I think a HD 4870 and a GTX 260 will have very similar performence.Jamiemydearx3

It better not!

The 4870 is supposed to be closer to the gtx280.

No it isnt. Its actually suppose to be up against the 9800gtx, the HD 4850 is suppose to be up against the 8800gt.

Get your facts straight mate.

Since when is the 4850 going against 8800GT which is quite a bit cheaper.
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[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"][QUOTE="McJugga"]

[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]I think a HD 4870 and a GTX 260 will have very similar performence.Spybot_9

It better not!

The 4870 is supposed to be closer to the gtx280.

No it isnt. Its actually suppose to be up against the 9800gtx, the HD 4850 is suppose to be up against the 8800gt.

Get your facts straight mate.

Since when is the 4850 going against 8800GT which is quite a bit cheaper.

..Since ATI said it...


"We've heard that Radeon HD 4850 will be positioned against G92-based 8800GT and that Radeon wins in this performance game.

Nvidia sells 8800GT at a U.S. suggested e-tailprice of $179, and we believe that ATI will match this price with RV770PRO or eventually sell it for $10 less.

Performance-wise, RV770XT aka Radeon HD 4850, should completely win against 8800GT and we also heard that it should win against non-overclocked 9800GT cards, but we still don't know the overclocking limits of 9800GT cards, as these might end up faster than ATI's offering.

8800GTX/9800GTX will win against Radeon 4850, but they are the other price category that is much closer or level with the price of Radeon 4870."

Somewhat dated article...But yea thats how it was meant to be. Btw HD 4850 does beat out a 9800gtx and 8800gtx.

http://www.amdzone.com/index.php/news/video-cards/52-video-cards/9820-4850-vs-8800gt-4870-priced

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The slides show that the HD Radeon 4850 is designed to compete with the GeForce 8800GT and outperform it by roughly 40% and the HD Radeon 4870 is meant to compete with GeForce 9800GTX and outperform it by roughly 40%.
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"][QUOTE="McJugga"]

[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]I think a HD 4870 and a GTX 260 will have very similar performence.Jamiemydearx3

It better not!

The 4870 is supposed to be closer to the gtx280.

No it isnt. Its actually suppose to be up against the 9800gtx, the HD 4850 is suppose to be up against the 8800gt.

Get your facts straight mate.

Since when is the 4850 going against 8800GT which is quite a bit cheaper.

..Since ATI said it...


"We've heard that Radeon HD 4850 will be positioned against G92-based 8800GT and that Radeon wins in this performance game.

Nvidia sells 8800GT at a U.S. suggested e-tailprice of $179, and we believe that ATI will match this price with RV770PRO or eventually sell it for $10 less.

Performance-wise, RV770XT aka Radeon HD 4850, should completely win against 8800GT and we also heard that it should win against non-overclocked 9800GT cards, but we still don't know the overclocking limits of 9800GT cards, as these might end up faster than ATI's offering.

8800GTX/9800GTX will win against Radeon 4850, but they are the other price category that is much closer or level with the price of Radeon 4870."

Somewhat dated article...But yea thats how it was meant to be. Btw HD 4850 does beat out a 9800gtx and 8800gtx.

http://www.amdzone.com/index.php/news/video-cards/52-video-cards/9820-4850-vs-8800gt-4870-priced

true but looking at the benchmarks youll definitly notice that hd4850 is beating 9800gtx in price and peformance .

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#18 Mtnes
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Can it be said with a good amt of certainty that the 4870 will perform better than the gtx 260 ?
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#19 mikeblunt2020
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[QUOTE="Mtnes"]how much faster is the GX2 compared to the 260 ? Which would perform better for the price ?Jamiemydearx3

9800 GX2 and a GTX 280 have very similar performence.

EDIT: GX2 is probably 20% faster

This all depends. I personally switched from a GX2 to a GTX 280 and I'm noticing very stable performance in areas where my GX2 lacked; high res gaming at 2560x1600.

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#20 Spybot_9
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I honestly will never take any of these charts from AMD or nvidia seriously again.
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#21 Lilgunney612
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I honestly will never take any of these charts from AMD or nvidia seriously again.Spybot_9

Good idea, just do what i do and go by reviews.

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#22 aoshi_shinumori
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what's the diffrence between 4870 and 4850? does it just share the same GPU with diffrent ram? 4850 has DDR3 while 4870 has DDR5?