Carmack sez Rage will be console focused

'The largest chunk of our market's going to be on consoles,' John Carmack told the mag, revealing that its controls will be designed around controllers. 'I mean, yes, you can use the mouse for it but it's critical that the controller be the way that we design the game.'

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=219925

Carmack would still be working for Softdisk if it weren't for us, nice one John. So will Doom 4 have regen health and a cover system ?

Perhaps the driving will just be best suited to a gamepad/controller. biggest_loser

My biggest concern about the game actually. Even though I almost always play racing games with gamepad/wheel, I'd definitely prefer to not swap controls in this game between driving and FPS (kb+m). Hopefully they at least put enough thought and effort into the PC version that the driving is well-manageable with kb+m. Driving was implemented well in HL2 for example, but Rage will obviously place a much greater emphasis on that gameplay element. It'll be interesting.

I find this incredibly offensive. First id created modern gaming through the PC, then they start subsidizing their best franchises (Quake 4, this new Wolfenstein, and even RTCW), then they sell out, and now this. After this, I've turned my back completely on id. Shame on you.krazyorange

Sell out to whom? Consoles? biggest_loser

Yes. It's one thing to port to consoles, but to tailor the game for consoles first instead of PC is slapping all of us who put them where they are. ID hasn't done this before to my knowledge.

I'm sure some people will be raging about this one, eh? Eh?

I'm sure some people will be raging about this one, eh? Eh?

pvtdonut54

Oh I'm ragin out. I just slapped my wife and punted my dog :evil: All kidding aside, I am quite angry about this.

I wish consoles can be shoved where the light doesnot shine sometimes. This is sad In 5 years I dont want to have to buy a closed system/console just to play most games. and having to jump around like a idiot to control stuff the way these motion controls are going.

I wish consoles can be shoved where the light doesnot shine sometimes. This is sad In 5 years I dont want to have to buy a closed system/console just to play most games. and having to jump around like a idiot to control stuff the way these motion controls are going.

04dcarraher

Yeah, consoles can burn for all I care. In my opinion they are only holding us back.

I find this incredibly offensive. First id created modern gaming through the PC, then they start subsidizing their best franchises (Quake 4, this new Wolfenstein, and even RTCW), then they sell out, and now this. After this, I've turned my back completely on id. Shame on you.krazyorange

There have been many id games on consoles before, im really suprised at how many people think this is a big deal, Q3A, Doom have all been on consoles. Its nothing we don't already know about.Pinkyimp

Pretty much every big game iD has made, has been on consoles. But the difference is that all of them were made with PC as the lead platform, and later ported to the consoles.

Now this game is made for consoles first, and the PC version is the port.

I consider it pretty offensive, considering that iD would not exist without PC gamers.

'The largest chunk of our market's going to be on consoles,' John Carmack told the mag, revealing that its controls will be designed around controllers. 'I mean, yes, you can use the mouse for it but it's critical that the controller be the way that we design the game.'

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=219925

attirex

There have been many id games on consoles before, im really suprised at how many people think this is a big deal, Q3A, Doom have all been on consoles. Its nothing we don't already know about.Pinkyimp

Yes, but there hasn't been an ID game geared to consoles before, it has always been PC first and then ported over to consoles. This is very different.

Not suprising in the slightest, even for id. Console's are where the money's at, the economy's currently down the sh*tter, why wouldn't they make a console focused game. That's what I would do. Hey as long as it's a fun game and the PC version is up to par i'm happy.

Yeah, that's really dissapointing.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]There have been many id games on consoles before, im really suprised at how many people think this is a big deal, Q3A, Doom have all been on consoles. Its nothing we don't already know about.HenriH-42

Pretty much every big game iD has made, has been on consoles. But the difference is that all of them were made with PC as the lead platform, and later ported to the consoles.

Now this game is made for consoles first, and the PC version is the port.

I consider it pretty offensive, considering that iD would not exist without PC gamers.

Its not rocket science to create a PC game, the controls a down to a fact with id, so doing controls is no problem the engine has been designed with the PC in mind, the only reason its more geared towards consoles is because its the first game developed in house by themselves that they are really taking care of..

I mean really now?, whats the hardest thing in making the PC version?, nothing!, the controls make themselves and the engine will run much better on the PC anyways, so i don't see what everyone's crying about "Boo Hoo id left us", at least they didn't do us like EPIC..now that's a failure.

God, its not like RAGE will feature perks, or auto aim, Regen health is a little weird but considering this is a id game there's going to be alot of challange.

That is certainly disappointing, but given how almost all the ID games went to consoles sometime or another, this isn't surprising..the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Yes but as I have mentioned before this isn't simply them porting it to consoles like in the past, this is ID focusing on the console version and making it the primary version.

EVERY MULTIPLATFORM GAME IS CONSOLE FOCUSED "The PC version will offer higher resolutions, more anti-aliasing and faster texture page-in times, but the three versions are essentially the same. " See? Did they say they gonna wreck the pc version? no it will be dumbed down with console control scheme better graphics and propably terrible optimazation.... just like every multiplatform out there, so whats this fuzz about?dakan45

Every multiplatform game ? F.E.A.R. is console focused ? It was on PC way before it was ported to consoles and it is considered multiplatform now because it is on more than one platform.

Meh, I didn't really like their last few games anyway. Their technology is good, but their imagination has soured.Gammit10

That's why Rage has potential. It isn't their normal corridor shooter game.

The game will have veichles. Of course the controls will be more console oriented. It seems like common sense that it would be easier to race with dual analog than KB+M. Doesn't mean it will be bad on the keyboard, it just won't be as satisfying. I really do not see the big deal about this.

i can see how controls might be designed more to consoles but its pretty damn hard to screw up controls on a pC, wat is he gettin at?

Who cares? What was the last good game that ID came out with Quake 3?

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Sell out to whom? Consoles? PublicNuisance

Yes. It's one thing to port to consoles, but to tailor the game for consoles first instead of PC is slapping all of us who put them where they are. ID hasn't done this before to my knowledge.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]EVERY MULTIPLATFORM GAME IS CONSOLE FOCUSED "The PC version will offer higher resolutions, more anti-aliasing and faster texture page-in times, but the three versions are essentially the same. " See? Did they say they gonna wreck the pc version? no it will be dumbed down with console control scheme better graphics and propably terrible optimazation.... just like every multiplatform out there, so whats this fuzz about?PublicNuisance

Every multiplatform game ? F.E.A.R. is console focused ? It was on PC way before it was ported to consoles and it is considered multiplatform now because it is on more than one platform.

Whoa, whoa, people!

No need to remind you that many console games that also appeared on PC controlled just FINE. BioShock, Gears of War, Halo, Fable, GTA IV - only at the top of my head - control wonderfully on PC M&KB and were also built for console controllers.

id is focusing on x360 only because of the 2 DVD limitation.

Whoa, whoa, people!

No need to remind you that many console games that also appeared on PC controlled just FINE. BioShock, Gears of War, Halo, Fable, GTA IV - only at the top of my head - control wonderfully on PC M&KB and were also built for console controllers.

NoAssKicker47

[QUOTE="NoAssKicker47"]

Whoa, whoa, people!

No need to remind you that many console games that also appeared on PC controlled just FINE. BioShock, Gears of War, Halo, Fable, GTA IV - only at the top of my head - control wonderfully on PC M&KB and were also built for console controllers.

blues35301

Im mainly a PC gamer and no I don't like the way these new ID games are console focused but at the end of the day ID need to make money. D3, Q4 were both pirated to hell on the PC. So would you rather ID make PC focused games and loose tons of money and probably go under one day or make consolised games for both platforms. I think the PC community is partially to blame for ID's shift towards consoles, but anyway I won't be buying any of their new games other then R.A.G.E, might rent doom 4 though......... Anyway ID haven't made a good game since Quake 3 so I really couldnt care less.

Developing it multiplatform is fine, what disgusts me is the fact their forcefully forcing PC Gamers to use a controller, wtf is wrong with them??!?!?

A little respect would be nice, John.

Port all you want. But dont tell us, after years of mutual benefit between PC gamers and Id, that youre going to focus primarily on consoles and that a controller is "critical" to the game.

Whoa, whoa, people!

No need to remind you that many console games that also appeared on PC controlled just FINE. BioShock, Gears of War, Halo, Fable, GTA IV - only at the top of my head - control wonderfully on PC M&KB and were also built for console controllers.

NoAssKicker47

The control on Bioshock is fine, lol.

Well that sucks! I was looking forwward to the game and now itll suck balls!Dr_Brocoli

[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"]Well that sucks! I was looking forwward to the game and now itll suck balls!the_ChEeSe_mAn2

four words:

Deus Ex: Invisible War

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"]Well that sucks! I was looking forwward to the game and now itll suck balls!mrbojangles25

four words:

Deus Ex: Invisible War

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Just out of curiosity why are you so quick to dismiss the game just because it is console focused?the_ChEeSe_mAn2

four words:

Deus Ex: Invisible War

EVERY MULTIPLATFORM GAME IS CONSOLE FOCUSED "The PC version will offer higher resolutions, more anti-aliasing and faster texture page-in times, but the three versions are essentially the same. " See? Did they say they gonna wreck the pc version? no it will be dumbed down with console control scheme better graphics and propably terrible optimazation.... just like every multiplatform out there, so whats this fuzz about?dakan45

No.