CAST YOUR VOTE: Bethesda Softworks vs Bioware

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#1 Turtlecream
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Bethesda Softworks became renown for developing:

  • Elder Scrolls: Arena
  • Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
  • Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  • Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
  • Fallout 3

BioWare became renown for developing:

  • Baldur's Gate
  • Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
  • Mass Effect
  • Neverwinter Nights
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
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#2 guildclaws
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Bioware.

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#3 darkwolf1982
Member since 2005 • 189 Posts
Out of these two? Tough one... KOTOR and Mass Effect are both interesting RPGs. Fallout 3 is an awesome instalment to the Fallout franchise. I'm inclined to give Bioware the point here.
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#4 mrbojangles25
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HAHAHAHA are you joking?

Bioware, no doubt lol. Anyone remaining objective here will should be voting for Bioware

sorry, I usually dont try to be such a PC gamingbigot but damn

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#5 RedNemesis42
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Oh man...Mass Effect is one of my favorite games of the past few years. But I've played 3 of the 4 Elder Scrolls Games. And Bethesda just made WET, also, which looks great. I give my nod to them.
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#6 belboz
Member since 2003 • 1548 Posts

Bioware. No doubt. How can there be?

BG, BG2, NWN, KotOR, ME. (Jade Empire OK. Not excellent, but OK).

The Elder scroll series (of which I own 3) are good, but they do are no measure.

But I guess this is all a matter of opinion...

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#7 DanielDust
Member since 2007 • 15402 Posts

I like joke threads :).

For some reason all I can read there is Bioware, so whatever it is, Bioware, hands down

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#8 zomglolcats
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To me this is easy. Bioware beats Bethesda hands down. After Morrowind, I haven't really cared about any Bethesda product.
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#9 solidwarrior2
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I cannot vote because I like both of them :)

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#11 mhofever
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I'd go for Bioware on this one. KOTOR was really good but Mass Effect swept me off my feet, unlike any game I've played,with so much drama, making it feel like a Class A Sci Fi Hollywood Movie.

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#12 THGarrett
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Bioware for me.

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#13 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Bioware for two main reasons. 1) Their games are generally pretty polished. Unlike Bethesda's. 2) They didn't ruin a fantastic game franchise. Unlike Bethesda.
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#14 Anthony01355
Member since 2006 • 1486 Posts

Bioware.

I don't like Fallout3.

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#15 chapman86
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I voted for Bethesda, while I do love Bioware games, I thank Bethesda for releasing a modding tool for their major games.

while Mass Effect is superior rpg than Beth games, it has no replayability value and fun ends at 20th hour while oblivion and fallout 3 so far lasted more than 300 hours each.

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#16 arto1223
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Bioware. Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II are some of my favorite games of all time. Mass Effect is also really good. Even though I love Fallout 1&2, Baldur's Gate is just too solid.

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#17 Kaeladar
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bioware ! i love all their games and as a fallout fan, fallout 3 was a disappointment for me. i felt like bethesda took the franchise just to have something to build on but they went in a completely different direction. they could as well have created another franchise... elder scrolls series was good but i got bored with oblivion for some reason
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#18 belboz
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Bioware. Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II are some of my favorite games of all time. Mass Effect is also really good. Even though I love Fallout 1&2, Baldur's Gate is just too solid.

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Fallout 1&2 are not Bethesda games. They ware black Isle Studios.
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#19 the_mitch28
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I feel as though I'm not really qualified to vote as I missed the baulders gate and KOTOR games. The only bioware game I own is Mass Effect and I loved it but is second to the amount of time and enjoyment I got out of Oblivion, so Beth gets my vote.

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#20 -wildflower-
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Bioware, if only for Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 but I really haven't liked any of their games since they started developing for consoles. Bethesda is a joke as far as RPGs go.

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#21 with_teeth26
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The polls are buggered right now, once you vote it doesn't go to the results screen, but instead lets you vote again.

Anyways, even though i accidentally voted for Bethesda becasue i wan't paying attention, i'd say Bioware.

While Morrowind was amazing, Oblivion needed mods to achieve proper greatness, so the modders get the credit in the end, not Bethesda. I didn't really like Fallout 3.

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#22 pvtdonut54
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BioWare.

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#23 RobertBowen
Member since 2003 • 4094 Posts

Go back some years and I would have voted for Bioware. But now I voted for Bethesda.

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#24 dakan45
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Bethesda because i like big wordmap open ended games with exploration and leveling up, and not mediocre designed levels and 1000000 dialogues full of blah blah and diffirent answers and call it "gameplay" Too much talk, less leveling up. I belive i explained why i prefer bethesda.
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#25 Mythomniac
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KOTOR+Mass Effect are slightly better than Fallout 3. So I chose Bioware.
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#26 Baranga
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Dunno man, Daggerfall is an incredible game...

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#27 chaoz-king
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Bethesda
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#28 KHAndAnime
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Being a fan of Daggerfall and Morrowind, I say Bioware.
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#29 shakmaster13
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I think Bioware is better at making a good story and Bethesda is better at making really fun gameplay from the games I have played from both. This is all IMO of course.

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#30 shakmaster13
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HAHAHAHA are you joking?

Bioware, no doubt lol. Anyone remaining objective here will should be voting for Bioware

sorry, I usually dont try to be such a PC gamingbigot but damn

mrbojangles25

TBH though I do think Bethesda has alot of talent, they just don't need to use it because they have already established themselves as major devs and all their games starting from daggerfall just rolled in the money.

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#31 Phoenix534
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Easily Bioware. Bethesda does a bad job at making RPGs. They don't have good stories, good character progression, or characters that are even moderately believeable.

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#32 dakan45
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Easily Bioware. Bethesda does a bad job at making RPGs. They don't have good stories, good character progression, or characters that are even moderately believeable.

Phoenix534
No one cares about exploring and leveling up your character i see? Like fallout 3 for example. Its all about dialogues and choices now? :(
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#33 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Easily Bioware. Bethesda does a bad job at making RPGs. They don't have good stories, good character progression, or characters that are even moderately believeable.

dakan45

No one cares about exploring and leveling up your character i see? Like fallout 3 for example. Its all about dialogues and choices now? :(

For me, an RPG has to have a good story and good characters, along with good combat and a good world.

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#34 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Easily Bioware. Bethesda does a bad job at making RPGs. They don't have good stories, good character progression, or characters that are even moderately believeable.

Phoenix534

No one cares about exploring and leveling up your character i see? Like fallout 3 for example. Its all about dialogues and choices now? :(

For me, an RPG has to have a good story and good characters, along with good combat and a good world.

I like worldmap and bioware is bad at that sector, hmm maybe in dragon age origins they fix that...
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#35 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] No one cares about exploring and leveling up your character i see? Like fallout 3 for example. Its all about dialogues and choices now? :(dakan45

For me, an RPG has to have a good story and good characters, along with good combat and a good world.

I like worldmap and bioware is bad at that sector, hmm maybe in dragon age origins they fix that...

We have two completely different wants from RPGs. I'm hoping Dragon Age is a bit of a hybrid between my wants and your wants. Then it'd be almost pefect

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#36 nalhutta94
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I didn't really like Mass Effect, so I'll go with Bethesda.

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#37 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Easily Bioware. Bethesda does a bad job at making RPGs. They don't have good stories, good character progression, or characters that are even moderately believeable.

dakan45
No one cares about exploring and leveling up your character i see? Like fallout 3 for example. Its all about dialogues and choices now? :(

Exploration hasn't been good in any Bethesda games since Morrowind.
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#38 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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Latest news about Dragon Age saddens me. $7 DLC on Day 1? And not included in a Collector's Edition? Kind of a low blow by Bioware/EA.
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#39 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Easily Bioware. Bethesda does a bad job at making RPGs. They don't have good stories, good character progression, or characters that are even moderately believeable.

KHAndAnime

No one cares about exploring and leveling up your character i see? Like fallout 3 for example. Its all about dialogues and choices now? :(

Exploration hasn't been good in any Bethesda games since Morrowind.

Why because of the loot? Well i just loved looking at the sceneray in oblivion and fallout 3 has some unique areas to explore... morrowind's scenary was unique but it looked like it was ditched in mud. Great game just too slow for my tastes.

When it comes to repettive dungeon design i think that both oblivion on morrowind were similar but fallout 3 had more unique areas.

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#40 Phoenix534
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Latest news about Dragon Age saddens me. $7 DLC on Day 1? And not included in a Collector's Edition? Kind of a low blow by Bioware/EA.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Yeah. But I'm still getting the Collector's Edition day one.

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#41 kage_53
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Bioware easily mostly because of NWN which is really underrated if you want my opinion. It has a lot of depth, choices and so forth but since then I haven't really been impressed by Bioware's games except Dragon Age (day 1 purchase for me). I really don't like Bethesda's games. I can't stand games where in order to get better at using a skill like unarmed fighting you have to constantly use it (reminds me that awful system from Final Fantasy II). It doesn't help that Oblivion and Fallout 3 needed a lot of mod support for them to be manageable.
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#42 Sonir77
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bioware by a long shot

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#43 redbaron3
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Years ago I would of voted for Bethesda in a heartbeat, after Oblivion I have to vote for Bioware
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#44 thusaha
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Bioware.
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#45 gamer620
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Oh man...Mass Effect is one of my favorite games of the past few years. But I've played 3 of the 4 Elder Scrolls Games. And Bethesda just made WET, also, which looks great. I give my nod to them.RedNemesis42
Bethesda published Wet. Bioware on the other hand made Shattered Steel
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#46 kemar7856
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Bethesda Softworks
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#47 ethanradd
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Bethesda Softworks for me

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I remember hearing all the hype for Mass Effect, bought the game, was really excited... played it, and the thing is really over-rated ...seriously over-rated,

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whereas Fallout 3 had a lot of haters even before it was released.... bought the game, played it, ....still playing it till today, one of the most enjoyable, most detailed, expansive game worlds I have ever had the pleasure to explore,

the sence of adventure and immersion is just too brilliant for words, Bethesda knows how to make open world RPGs,

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Elder Scrolls, still playing it even today, the longevity in Bethesda's games is unmatched, the exploration factor unmatched,

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Bottom line .... it has been established that its cool to hate Bethesda, Bioware is brilliant, no question there, but its sad people don't see how much more there is to the worlds Bethesda creates,

sure Bioware has more IPs, but for me: The Elder Scrolls + Fallout 3 alone makes this Bethesda hands down!

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My vote goes to Bethesda,

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#48 nutcrackr
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CD PROJECT RED WINS! I preferred oblivion and fallout 3 to mass effect so recent times = bethesda winnage.
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#49 pinneyapple
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Future Shock.

Nuff said, I vote Bethesda.

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#50 nikola96
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Bioware