CCP gets hit hard.. could lose millions in revenue

ccp the devleoper for eve online is in seriously dangerous waters atm. after they opted to input actually useful stuff for a high price into the eve online store. players were annoyed that they would need to pay for these as well on top of monthly fee's unless they wanted the game to start favoring those with the fatest wallets. so out of protest subscriptions got cancelled by the bucket full and the last count was at 5.5k users leaving. thats roguhly a yearly income slash of 1 million US dollars!

ccp go scared and is now in talked with delegates from the online community to try & work out an agreement.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/06/28/eve-online-protests-could-cost-ccp-1-million/

$70 for an in-game monocle??? :lol:

And here I thought $20 for a steed in LOTRO was a bit much!

Glad I'm not a part of that mess.

Correct me if I am wrong, but CCP is the first and only entity I have seen to take a game which has a monthly subscription fee and add micro-transactions on top of it.XIntoTheBlue

I hope the players are actually following through with their plans. It's pretty despicable to have to pay monthly and then not get the content you are paying them to develop.

[QUOTE="XIntoTheBlue"]Correct me if I am wrong, but CCP is the first and only entity I have seen to take a game which has a monthly subscription fee and add micro-transactions on top of it.guynamedbilly

I hope the players are actually following through with their plans. It's pretty despicable to have to pay monthly and then not get the content you are paying them to develop.

they were doing it before WoW i believe.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only stuff they have microtransactions for are useless items, right? The stuff that affects gameplay was only mentioned in a "memo" and isn't actually available as a microtransaction? And the useless stuff that you can pay for can also be bought with a large amount of in-game money. As it stands right now, seems like a bit of an overreaction, but as I'm not currently playing, who am I to say. I'm waiting for Incarna to be fully developed before I jump back in.MyopicCanadian

I hope this sends a message not only to CCP but also other developers.

[QUOTE="XIntoTheBlue"]Correct me if I am wrong, but CCP is the first and only entity I have seen to take a game which has a monthly subscription fee and add micro-transactions on top of it.guynamedbilly

I hope the players are actually following through with their plans. It's pretty despicable to have to pay monthly and then not get the content you are paying them to develop.

EQ2, station cash. Around the time I quit as well.

well they deserver it if they start charing for stuff that gives and edge in game + suscription based. i always like to see greedy companies getting what they deserver for their greed

lol they got scared... hahaha... i hope things turn out well for the eve players. if it had gone through though id probably come back to eve and buy a few battleships/titans.

Tahaha aw man that was a good read. Serves them right.

And i laugh at 13 dollar hats

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only stuff they have microtransactions for are useless items, right? The stuff that affects gameplay was only mentioned in a "memo" and isn't actually available as a microtransaction? And the useless stuff that you can pay for can also be bought with a large amount of in-game money. As it stands right now, seems like a bit of an overreaction, but as I'm not currently playing, who am I to say. I'm waiting for Incarna to be fully developed before I jump back in.kris9031998

[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only stuff they have microtransactions for are useless items, right? The stuff that affects gameplay was only mentioned in a "memo" and isn't actually available as a microtransaction? And the useless stuff that you can pay for can also be bought with a large amount of in-game money. As it stands right now, seems like a bit of an overreaction, but as I'm not currently playing, who am I to say. I'm waiting for Incarna to be fully developed before I jump back in.shakmaster13

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="kris9031998"] And guess what? you are the ONLY person who can see your items. Nobody else. So its basically worthless, even just to look at.MythPro1

seriously? they just mentioned it and people are already making a big deal? wtf is wrong with people these days.

[QUOTE="MythPro1"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"] Which is why I don't understand all the outrage.Krelian-co

seriously? they just mentioned it and people are already making a big deal? wtf is wrong with people these days.

rlly ccp shouldnt even be thinking about this thou. attempting a pay to win model with one of the most hard core communities means castrophic consequences will happen

seriously? they just mentioned it and people are already making a big deal? wtf is wrong with people these days.Krelian-co

Because the game is a sandbox built by its players from the ground up, and almost everything available in that universe was created by them as well. Pay to win items have no place there.

Also don't understand the outrage. An in-game memo for a company brainstorming the ways it can make money? I doubt any of that would have ever come into fruition. And that's practically proven now. If 5,000 accounts have been cancelled because of a monocle and hats.................MyopicCanadian

It has little to do with monocles and hats, it's all about staying true to what they claimed on numerous occasions. "Microtransactions won't affect gameplay."

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]seriously? they just mentioned it and people are already making a big deal? wtf is wrong with people these days.MythPro1

Because the game is a sandbox built by its players from the ground up, and almost everything available in that universe was created by them as well. Pay to win items have no place there.

Also don't understand the outrage. An in-game memo for a company brainstorming the ways it can make money? I doubt any of that would have ever come into fruition. And that's practically proven now. If 5,000 accounts have been cancelled because of a monocle and hats.................MyopicCanadian

It has little to do with monocles and hats, it's all about staying true to what they claimed on numerous occasions. "Microtransactions won't affect gameplay."

And they aren't affecting gameplay what seems to be the problem...shakmaster13

You're missing the point. Serious discussions were brewing among internal CCP employees about the possibilities of adding ships, ammo, and other bonuses to the Nex store. Items that would enhance a player's abilities should they throw down money. This goes directly in the face of everything they've been saying leading up to this point, that EVE would never have gameplay changing microtransactions.

Just because they're not "in", doesn't mean they're not on the table. That's what players want to know, if CCP will move past vanity-only microtransactions. A question CCP has yet to answer fully and it's been about a week since this whole thing started. For many players, that's some pretty strong writing on the wall.

It's certainly worth "rioting" over because it could have dire consequences on the sandbox elements of the entire game.

Don't go "I don't understand the hate" because it always starts with small meaningless items and grows to a pay to win scenario. And at incredibly high ripoff prices.

I'm really not so upset that a good backlash from the community still has the potential to prevent companies from getting away with practices that are deemed unfair, or at least, burn a hole into their wallets. Carry on.

WOW did it too with mounts and possibly other things.guynamedbilly

Customer loyalty was definitely not on their list of priorities when they considered rolling this mess out.

These microntransactions and pay2win **** are getting beyond rediculous. Im glad people are showing ccp that they are not willing to be milked with this crap.

Kudos to the EVE community. And what does it mean by "delegates" from the gaming community? CCP will talk to high leveled players or something?

I applaud the community for taking action. It does hurt to be put on an unfair playing field, especially when 95% of the things in that field were crafted/mined/created/etc. by the players themselves.

Don't go "I don't understand the hate" because it always starts with small meaningless items and grows to a pay to win scenario. And at incredibly high ripoff prices.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"] WOW did it too with mounts and possibly other things.yellosnolvr

The best way to vote is with your wallet.

Microtransaction on top of the monthly fee is just absurd.

EVE has always striked me as a game that is founded almost entirely on its community. Doing anything to piss off that community would not be good, as has been shown.

CCP has a lot of kissing ass and making up to do. For starters, they should give everyone a free monocle and remove all non-vanity items from the store.

EVE has always striked me as a game that is founded almost entirely on its community. Doing anything to piss off that community would not be good, as has been shown.

CCP has a lot of kissing ass and making up to do. For starters, they should give everyone a free monocle and remove all non-vanity items from the store.

mrbojangles25

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

EVE has always striked me as a game that is founded almost entirely on its community. Doing anything to piss off that community would not be good, as has been shown.

CCP has a lot of kissing ass and making up to do. For starters, they should give everyone a free monocle and remove all non-vanity items from the store.

IntwoGames

Just going by this:

after they opted to input actually useful stuff for a high price into the eve online store. players were annoyed

ionusX

Well, on the bright side EVE has setup an example to all other MMORGP developers just what would happen if they go too far with micro-transactions.

ADD: It's not the only MMO with both subscription and micro-transaction. WoW also has micro-transaction both in the form of Pet Store and mounts/pets/toys from Trading Cards. The key difference here of course is that nothing that influences gameplay or is directly useful in endgame PvP or PvE is available from micro-transaction.

If WoW is to succumb to the evils of Activision and start offering raid tokens, epic gear or arena points, expect huge drops even in WoW's massive subscription base as well.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Don't go "I don't understand the hate" because it always starts with small meaningless items and grows to a pay to win scenario. And at incredibly high ripoff prices.

Nerkcon

Kudos to the EVE community. And what does it mean by "delegates" from the gaming community? CCP will talk to high leveled players or something?

axething