Cheap laptop vs XBOX360

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#1 nandito3555
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Do you think a laptop with a Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHZ, 8GB DDR3, nVidia GT 230M 1GB GDDR3 could bring better graphics than the 360(my 360 died so...)

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#2 Marfoo
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Technically the GT 230M or 9600GT (same chip just rebranded) is more powerful than the Xbox360's graphics processor which was based on the older ATI X1900XTX. So, yeah, I think you can.
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You must remember that Xbox 360 games are optimized for it's graphics processor, which means that all current games will play on a smooth framerate. Whereas performance for modern games on the PC will be less consistent with a GPU like the 9600GT, as you must manually adjust settings which could result in lackluster textures, shaders, and anti-aliasing.
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You must remember that Xbox 360 games are optimized for it's graphics processor, which means that all current games will play on a smooth framerate. Whereas performance for modern games on the PC will be less consistent with a GPU like the 9600GT, as you must manually adjust settings which could result in lackluster textures, shaders, and anti-aliasing.LiftedHeadshot

this is true, but if you spend the time, dialing in the settings for optimizing it, it will be good, and sometimse great. i spend on average with every new game i get about 1-2 hours setting up the options. and adjust later where i think i need to... just be mindful. and do some research to see which process is being used by which processor gpu/cpu. and adjust to which each allows. for a smoother experience.

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#6 Marfoo
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You must remember that Xbox 360 games are optimized for it's graphics processor, which means that all current games will play on a smooth framerate. Whereas performance for modern games on the PC will be less consistent with a GPU like the 9600GT, as you must manually adjust settings which could result in lackluster textures, shaders, and anti-aliasing.LiftedHeadshot
At the very least it will be able to achieve 1280x720 with minimal filtering, which is basically what an Xbox360 does. I'm thinking it'll be able to do more than that, so it should be fine.
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[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]You must remember that Xbox 360 games are optimized for it's graphics processor, which means that all current games will play on a smooth framerate. Whereas performance for modern games on the PC will be less consistent with a GPU like the 9600GT, as you must manually adjust settings which could result in lackluster textures, shaders, and anti-aliasing.Marfoo
At the very least it will be able to achieve 1280x720 with minimal filtering, which is basically what an Xbox360 does. I'm thinking it'll be able to do more than that, so it should be fine.

The 360 can achieve 1080p either by upscaling or by playing the native resolution of a 1080p game, but what prevent's framerate loss is that there is virtually no anti-aliasing and there are subtle, and sometimes drastic, downgrades in graphical detail if compared to a PC version of the game.
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#8 LiftedHeadshot
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My point is that if you want to quickly be able to play games fairly smoothly without much hassle then you should just buy an 360, but if you want to be able to run games with higher detail, resolution to create an all around better image then you should definitely go with laptop/PC.
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#9 nandito3555
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Thanks for the comments.

XBOX360 = smooth optimized graphics/gameplay

Laptop = higher detail and resolution

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#10 AequusLibra
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I agree with what Liftedheadshot is saying. If you just wanna jump right into gaming, then the 360 is the way to go. But, if you have the time/interest to tweak the settings appropriately, you can achieve approximately the same amount of reliability/stability/smoothness etc etc as the 360 along with better graphics.

Also, Im not sure on this so dont quote me on it, but, I HAVE to believe that a 360 is going to be a few hundred dollars cheaper than a laptop with the specifications you mentioned.

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#11 hitman6actual
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I agree with what Liftedheadshot is saying. If you just wanna jump right into gaming, then the 360 is the way to go. But, if you have the time/interest to tweak the settings appropriately, you can achieve approximately the same amount of reliability/stability/smoothness etc etc as the 360 along with better graphics.

Also, Im not sure on this so dont quote me on it, but, I HAVE to believe that a 360 is going to be a few hundred dollars cheaper than a laptop with the specifications you mentioned.

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Your right about that.. He'll spend more on the laptop for sure, but in my opinion it's completely worth it.
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#12 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="hitman6actual"][QUOTE="AequusLibra"]

I agree with what Liftedheadshot is saying. If you just wanna jump right into gaming, then the 360 is the way to go. But, if you have the time/interest to tweak the settings appropriately, you can achieve approximately the same amount of reliability/stability/smoothness etc etc as the 360 along with better graphics.

Also, Im not sure on this so dont quote me on it, but, I HAVE to believe that a 360 is going to be a few hundred dollars cheaper than a laptop with the specifications you mentioned.

Your right about that.. He'll spend more on the laptop for sure, but in my opinion it's completely worth it.

Especially if you are also in the need of a fully functional computer.
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#13 NeRveD
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The XBox 360 would be a better bet than a cheap old laptop.

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#14 simplyderp
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I think desktop > XBOX360 > laptop. With an XBOX360, you won't have to tweak any settings; games will run out of the box. You get to keep all your current games. With a laptop, you may have to tweak graphical settings to get the most optimum quality:performance ratio. However, if you are interested in quality PC exclusives, then maybe the laptop would be a good choice.

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#15 hitman6actual
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Do you think a laptop with a Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHZ, 8GB DDR3, nVidia GT 230M 1GB GDDR3 could bring better graphics than the 360(my 360 died so...)

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I think it depends on how much your willing to spend. Your defiantly better off buying a desktop rather then a laptop for gaming. It'll take more money for a laptop to outclass a 360 then it will on a desktop, which you could build yourself and easily outdo the xbox. Either way go PC.
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#17 AequusLibra
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@magicalclick: everything you say is correct, except for the part where you games developed using the 360 wont run as smoothly on a PC as on a 360. That isnt necessarily true. If you dedicate the time to tweak the settings appropriately, you can get a game to run just as smooth, if not more, on a PC as a 360 (with better graphics). Obviously, there are exceptions. But for the most part, better hardware means better performance.

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#18 swehunt
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Well any new and gaming oriented desktop and laptop should be able to run most games with higher detail than the 360 or PS3 but comon the consoles have some years to count in also.

This isn't that topic about PC vs. 360 it's about that specific laptop versus the 360, id get the 360 and save just as much as the 360 cost. (It should be about half the cost even with quite some games?)

And there is a big diffrence betw sitting with the mice and keyboard in front of the laptops 15-17" LCD or the 42" HDTV in the livingroom with a wireless controler, witch do you like the most?

If anything a Desktop should be a better choise than the laptop.

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#19 nandito3555
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Fine, good points up there. The thing is that my 360 died 2 times, I no longer trust the 360's hardware. I was getting a laptop anyways and there it is a good cheap reliable gaming laptop(I investigated) with a 15% discount, so it's more than I was planning to buy for that price ($700).

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#20 bigfootstew
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Fine, good points up there. The thing is that my 360 died 2 times, I no longer trust the 360's hardware. I was getting a laptop anyways and there it is a good cheap reliable gaming laptop(I investigated) with a 15% discount, so it's more than I was planning to buy for that price ($700).

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The 360 has notoriously unreliable hardware. If you're going to get a game console, I would go with a PS3 at this point. They've dropped the price to $299, it has similar graphics capabilities, similar games, Blu-Ray, great media streaming capabilities, built-in wireless, free online, and a substantially lower failure rate than the 360. The laptop above looks decent, but the hardware (Core 2, GT230/9600GT) is a bit long in the tooth and kind of on its way out at this point.

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#21 nandito3555
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[QUOTE="nandito3555"]

Fine, good points up there. The thing is that my 360 died 2 times, I no longer trust the 360's hardware. I was getting a laptop anyways and there it is a good cheap reliable gaming laptop(I investigated) with a 15% discount, so it's more than I was planning to buy for that price ($700).

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The 360 has notoriously unreliable hardware. If you're going to get a game console, I would go with a PS3 at this point. They've dropped the price to $299, it has similar graphics capabilities, similar games, Blu-Ray, great media streaming capabilities, built-in wireless, free online, and a substantially lower failure rate than the 360. The laptop above looks decent, but the hardware (Core 2, GT230/9600GT) is a bit long in the tooth and kind of on its way out at this point.

Yeah, I also have a PS3 60GB model, but the bluray drive is broken. Also, while the hardware is already past with the new lynnfield architecture I think is a great deal. Now it's just $650 and even with the new i5/i3 laptops on the market you usually don't get one with a decent dedicated graphics chip for less than $900.