china gov't controller cpu maker claims to have a 32nm powerhouse

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#1 ionusX
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intel and ARM may soon be in a very interesting race. china's government happens to own its own cpu deisgner and fabrication facilities and they claim to have a low cost, chip thats superior to arm cpu's and rivals many intel server options on their modern sockets. while these cpu's dont have official microsoft support they can run linux and this could put china one of the alrgest markets for cpu's in serious danger of being stolen by chinese centered and gov't controller buisness

currently using the codenamed godson here is a shot of the finished 32nm SOC chip:

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http://vr-zone.com/articles/chinese-chips-may-soon-rival-intel/18076.html

this could also be very useful as a way of improving the network infastructure in developing nations where the cost of setting up a might modern xeon server network is the equivalent to buying a private jet in n. america which could ruin alot of really neglected markets for the big three such as africa, southern asia and the middle east

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Atm I guess I welcome them.
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I see how this can be a good thing for developing nations, but hopefully the US government won't be stupid enough to use these chips. Some government agencies, the Pentagon, the Whitehouse, etc. are forced to literally test and inspect every single little US designed component made overseas. If they order 1000 chips made in Asia for instance, each of those 1000 chips must be thoroughly inspected. About 10% of standard American designed computer hardware made in Asia has been found to contain Chinese hardware trojans.. But not all of these hardware trojans are easily detectable. As a result, 100% of certain widely used military chips that were designed to be impenetrable through implementation of unbreakable hardware encryption methods have been found to contain Chinese hardware trojans. These highly compromised chips are used in everything from our state of the art fighter jets and advanced weaponry to our nuclear power plants and public transit systems. However unlikely it may be, China can supposedly shutdown our civilian infrastructure and military industrial complex at will if they really wanted to...
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Powerhouse... right.

China claims a lot of things but this is one of their more ridiculous ones to date. Pencil me in as someone who's more interested in seeing walk than talk. This is very reminicent of AMD market lingo: blowing nothing but hot air.

Does anyone remember other companies that made bold claims:

-Lucid Hydra and their alternative to SLI/crossfire

-IBM's RISC architecture back in the 90's.

-Sony's Cell processor and how it would revolutionize task scheduling by streamlining media and vector computations through the marriage of its SPE and PPE modules.

-The list goes on...

Intel dominates the CPU industry not only because they they've been at this for a very long time and because of their hyper-aggressive tick-tock cadence/schedule, but because they invest many of their profits into new fabs. Unlike tech giants Apple, Microsoft and Google, who sit on large piles of cash reserves, Intel puts those huge margins back to work to churn out bleeding edge fabs:

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4373886/Intel-confirms-Ireland-for-14-nm-silicon

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-fab42-14nm-cpu-factory,14545.html

A lot of people in the CPU industry just see Intel as a designer of CPU's but much of their strength lies in their ability to churn out the best wafers, that's why their x86 instruction set, though inferior and bloated in many ways to several other architectures, knocked out rivals like PowerPC back in the late 90's/early 00's.

You can have all the ambitious design you like when it comes to making a chip, but if you can't implement those ideas into a superior process, then all it becomes is a long stream of great ideas never achieving potential. China claims these are low cost, but is the trade off for power/efficiency and productivity worth it, especially when electricity is a commodity to the meager markets they envision themselves catering to?

intel and ARM may soon be in a very interesting race. china's government happens to own its own cpu deisgner and fabrication facilities and they claim to have a low cost, chip thats superior to arm cpu's and rivals many intel server options on their modern sockets. while these cpu's dont have official microsoft support they can run linux and this could put china one of the alrgest markets for cpu's in serious danger of being stolen by chinese centered and gov't controller buisness

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Sometimes I wonder where you learned to type... Reading some of your posts is like rinsing your eyes with vinegar.

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Intel cannot be stopped.

This company is a nobody.

It will blow over in a week.

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intel and ARM may soon be in a very interesting race. china's government happens to own its own cpu deisgner and fabrication facilities and they claim to have a low cost, chip thats superior to arm cpu's and rivals many intel server options on their modern sockets. while these cpu's dont have official microsoft support they can run linux and this could put china one of the alrgest markets for cpu's in serious danger of being stolen by chinese centered and gov't controller buisness

currently using the codenamed godson here is a shot of the finished 32nm SOC chip:

loongson.jpg.jpeg

http://vr-zone.com/articles/chinese-chips-may-soon-rival-intel/18076.html

this could also be very useful as a way of improving the network infastructure in developing nations where the cost of setting up a might modern xeon server network is the equivalent to buying a private jet in n. america which could ruin alot of really neglected markets for the big three such as africa, southern asia and the middle east

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Godson uses the MIPS instruction set which is own by Imagination Technologies (PowerVR, United Kingdom).

United Kingdom has two world CPU instuction sets i.e. ARM and MIPS.

United States has Power/PowerPC and X86.

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watch the chips "blow up" more quicker then a intel or AMD chip.