CnC 3 and the SAGE engines horrid netcoding is back!

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#1 ARGSmith
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I don't know if any of you have tried to play CnC 3 online yet, but it seems EA's promises on the SAGE engine netcoding were full of hot air.

Just try playing a 2 vs 2/3 vs 3 and you will see what I mean, the game turn into a super lag fest and I've tried it a dozen or so times already! It certainly is not my computer(I run fraps when playing) and it's definitely not my 15MB download/2 MB upload!

 Heres an example of people talking about it http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=199178&tstart=30 

 1 vs 1's are fine for a while till the game desyncs which is another major problem :( 

 

I don't know who to blame, EA's net coding or Gamespy hosting it.  

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#2 RequimRex
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Yes, I've noticed :/ I wish they tested this before they did the review :/ they probably ran tested it in house only :/
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#3 ARGSmith
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The people at Gamereplays are saying the same thing, looks like a big problem

 

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=215492 

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#4 thusaha
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2v2's very lag.
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#5 RequimRex
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I'm having trouble even getting online! Gamespy keeps kicking me and everyone for that matter!
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#6 Swiftstrike5
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9.0 w/ bad multiplayer? Must have a badass singleplayer then.
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#7 mrbojangles25
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mine works fine, but ive only tried 1v1 so far.  Maybe something screws up with more than 2 players per match or something.
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#8 RequimRex
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mine works fine, but ive only tried 1v1 so far. Maybe something screws up with more than 2 players per match or something.mrbojangles25
! vs 1 isn't the problem aside from the desyncs that happen, 2 vs 2 and up is the problem, they better stop using Gamespy!
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Look at EA's track record and then is what Iv come to expect as normal bussness for them... If you are all lucky you might get a patch or 2 that will fix it...But I would not get your hope us for it to ever work 100%...
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Look at EA's track record and then is what Iv come to expect as normal bussness for them... If you are all lucky you might get a patch or 2 that will fix it...But I would not get your hope us for it to ever work 100%... Death_Masta187
If 1v1 works I'd accept it. The last thing you want is an EA patch. Those usually do more harm than good (BF2 anyone?).
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#11 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="Death_Masta187"]Look at EA's track record and then is what Iv come to expect as normal bussness for them... If you are all lucky you might get a patch or 2 that will fix it...But I would not get your hope us for it to ever work 100%... Swiftstrike5
If 1v1 works I'd accept it. The last thing you want is an EA patch. Those usually do more harm than good (BF2 anyone?).

hahah so true, although you would think fixing netcode would be easy enough. 

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#12 kyokpa
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ï have 100/10 mbit and can barely play a zero hour 3vs3 game and that game came out like 2003 or something. So i wouldnt keep my hopes up for a patch that fixes these issues
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#13 RequimRex
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There is a patch out and just installing it is making people go bonkers. The problem is more likely on Gamespy's side I mean just look at Gamespy's history, they have always been a crap online service. Why the hell is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world using Gamespy anyway? Do they really want to save money that much? I'm sure EA could have made there own great online setup if they were just willing to put the money in it, hell they have so many games they should just make a big one for all of their games.
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#14 ElvisNixon
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this is really the same problem from C&C 1.  everyone else learned how to fix it long ago. 
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this is really the same problem from C&C 1. everyone else learned how to fix it long ago. ElvisNixon
CnC 1 used gamespy?
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btw does the battlecast not work? I tried it, but it says FireFox doesn't recognize the protocal oor something :? Do I have to run it with IE or something?
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Any word on LAN play ? is it just as laggy ?
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Any word on LAN play ? is it just as laggy ?shaggymcp
No clue, if LAN is laggy then, well thats just scary.
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#19 ARGSmith
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[QUOTE="Death_Masta187"]Look at EA's track record and then is what Iv come to expect as normal bussness for them... If you are all lucky you might get a patch or 2 that will fix it...But I would not get your hope us for it to ever work 100%... Swiftstrike5
If 1v1 works I'd accept it. The last thing you want is an EA patch. Those usually do more harm than good (BF2 anyone?).

Accept it :? I payed 50 bucks for the game it better eventually be able to do more then a 1 vs 1, maybe we will get lucky and EA will ditch Gamespy if enough complain.
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Doesn't the 1.1 patch fix the netcode?
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#21 visceron
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Game runs smooth for me and I have mostly played 2v2 games.
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#22 RequimRex
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Doesn't the 1.1 patch fix the netcode?speed1
:? Nope it makes things worse actually :(
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#23 RequimRex
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Doesn't the 1.1 patch fix the netcode?speed1
:? Nope it makes things worse actually :(
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A bunch of us had problems last night until we all went in and configured our routers and open the ports in the manual. 8088- whatever else it is.  Anyway, 0 problems after that.  I am more surprised by the no Vista 64 bit Support.
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[QUOTE="ElvisNixon"]this is really the same problem from C&C 1. everyone else learned how to fix it long ago. RequimRex
CnC 1 used gamespy?

haha, my neighborhood didnt even have internet in 1995, and I know mine wasnt the only neighborhood.  Then I think when red alert came out we had to do direct connect where you actualy dialed the person's phone number to connect.

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Gamespy is a horrible PoS for sure.  Warhammer 40k Multiplayer I love, but if anything its not one of the best becaues of GAMESPY.. Every game thats 4v4 or even 3v3 alot of times its garenteed some one will drop in the game.
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Gamespy is a horrible PoS for sure. Warhammer 40k Multiplayer I love, but if anything its not one of the best becaues of GAMESPY.. Every game thats 4v4 or even 3v3 alot of times its garenteed some one will drop in the game.sSubZerOo
It's still awful for me :? and Taij I don't even use a router,
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Gamespy is a horrible PoS for sure. Warhammer 40k Multiplayer I love, but if anything its not one of the best becaues of GAMESPY.. Every game thats 4v4 or even 3v3 alot of times its garenteed some one will drop in the game.RequimRex
It's still awful for me :? and Taij I don't even use a router,

Same :?
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[QUOTE="RequimRex"][QUOTE="ElvisNixon"]this is really the same problem from C&C 1. everyone else learned how to fix it long ago. mrbojangles25

CnC 1 used gamespy?

haha, my neighborhood didnt even have internet in 1995, and I know mine wasnt the only neighborhood.  Then I think when red alert came out we had to do direct connect where you actualy dialed the person's phone number to connect.

That brings back sweet memories... Anyone here remember Kali? :P
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="RequimRex"][QUOTE="ElvisNixon"]this is really the same problem from C&C 1. everyone else learned how to fix it long ago. Erlkoenig

CnC 1 used gamespy?

haha, my neighborhood didnt even have internet in 1995, and I know mine wasnt the only neighborhood.  Then I think when red alert came out we had to do direct connect where you actualy dialed the person's phone number to connect.

That brings back sweet memories... Anyone here remember Kali? :P

kali diablo...  good times...  remember dwango?

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#31 ARGSmith
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="RequimRex"][QUOTE="ElvisNixon"]this is really the same problem from C&C 1. everyone else learned how to fix it long ago. Erlkoenig

CnC 1 used gamespy?

haha, my neighborhood didnt even have internet in 1995, and I know mine wasnt the only neighborhood. Then I think when red alert came out we had to do direct connect where you actualy dialed the person's phone number to connect.

That brings back sweet memories... Anyone here remember Kali? :P

I remember doing that with starcraft :P
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Gamespy is a horrible PoS for sure. Warhammer 40k Multiplayer I love, but if anything its not one of the best becaues of GAMESPY.. Every game thats 4v4 or even 3v3 alot of times its garenteed some one will drop in the game.RequimRex
It's still awful for me :? and Taij I don't even use a router,

I am sorry man.  I can imagine your frustration.  I was there to but got it rolling.  Did you add it to exceptions through your Firewall? 

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#33 ARGSmith
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[QUOTE="RequimRex"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Gamespy is a horrible PoS for sure. Warhammer 40k Multiplayer I love, but if anything its not one of the best becaues of GAMESPY.. Every game thats 4v4 or even 3v3 alot of times its garenteed some one will drop in the game.Taijiquan

It's still awful for me :? and Taij I don't even use a router,

I am sorry man. I can imagine your frustration. I was there to but got it rolling. Did you add it to exceptions through your Firewall?

I shut down my firewall entirely reinstalled it, think I'm going to ebay it :/ The new patch gives me errors every time on top of that, I think there latest patch that just came out made the problems even worse if the forums are any indication :(
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[QUOTE="Taijiquan"]

[QUOTE="RequimRex"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Gamespy is a horrible PoS for sure. Warhammer 40k Multiplayer I love, but if anything its not one of the best becaues of GAMESPY.. Every game thats 4v4 or even 3v3 alot of times its garenteed some one will drop in the game.ARGSmith

It's still awful for me :? and Taij I don't even use a router,

I am sorry man. I can imagine your frustration. I was there to but got it rolling. Did you add it to exceptions through your Firewall?

I shut down my firewall entirely reinstalled it, think I'm going to ebay it :/ The new patch gives me errors every time on top of that, I think there latest patch that just came out made the problems even worse if the forums are any indication :(

Ugg I might go trade it or something if online doesn't start working soon.