CNC 3 Gets a 82% from PCGamerUk

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#1 MoeMania
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Basically to give you the jist of what they said they said the game gives you the great old CnC feel, but is extremely old school and the balance issues break the game down to a simple tank spam fest game.

In comparison they gave

Company of Heroes a 94

Supreme Commander 90
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#2 djzootie
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Wow, I expected higher.
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Basically to give you the jist of what they said they said the game gives you the great old CnC feel, but is extremely old school and the balance issues break the game down to a simple tank spam fest game.

In comparison they gave

Company of Heroes a 94

Supreme Commander 90
MoeMania
Not to be rude but thats true C&C 3 is just a remake of a old game :( IMO.
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#4 Sirthugalot
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I would give it a higher score. And true it is a remake but it has a cool story line. Maybe it's because of the alien race, the score is so low, many of my friends think it's a rip off.
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#5 BloodMist
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It's C&C only upgraded.I'm sorry, but that's exactly what i've been waiting for since RA2.It works for me.
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so far my score is 10 (the demo ROCKS!!!)
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#7 nic0008
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The storyline makes it a 10/10 for me...... Kane ftw!!!!

I knew it would be a re-make of C&C, but ive been waiting for this for ages!!


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[QUOTE="MoeMania"]Basically to give you the jist of what they said they said the game gives you the great old CnC feel, but is extremely old school and the balance issues break the game down to a simple tank spam fest game.

In comparison they gave

Company of Heroes a 94

Supreme Commander 90
Glordit
Not to be rude but thats true C&C 3 is just a remake of a old game :( IMO.

Its a continuation of the old Command and Conquer, not a remake.  I know it doesnt bring much new to the franchise or the RTS genre, but thats ok.  There is the same great storyline, with acting and cool cutscenes with awesome action.

If you want to talk about remakes, just look at Supreme Commander.

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#9 Jd1680a
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thats funny, because PCGamerUS gave it a 90%.
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#10 Sirthugalot
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If you want to talk about remakes, just look at Supreme Commander.


Wouldn't that be called a rip off =D
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#11 Whermacht02
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I still dont get WHY people keep saying "its just plain old C&C, its old school...". Whats wrong with the game being old school? Whats wrong with the game feeling like the original C&C? As a matter of fact, the guys at EA kept saying throughout the whole development cycle that they would "be going back to the roots of C&C". And the game turned out to be just what they said. In my opinion, it manages to capture that essence that was lost in the last couple of years...

I just think that there are gamers that are not "objective" when talking about this. They label the game as "dumbed down", or "old school" just because it doesnt have all the bells&whistles that other games have.

People need to understand that throwing every possible feature that you can imagine into a game is not a good idea... Thats why we end up with games that the whole world is waiting for, and they turn out to be major flops.

Just to finish: EA said "we are going back to the roots of Command and Conquer". They stayed true to that statement. It doesnt make any sense to say that the game is bad because it doesnt have a feature that other has...

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#12 MoeMania
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To Where, but the game isn't even properly balanced! The game has some major problems man, think about it there has never been a CnC game were you could tech up this dam fast and because you can you eliminate the point of many of the games early units, not to mention there are a number of units that really invalidate the point of most of the games units like the Predator and Mammoth! And how about the tactical management you had in old CnC games, it has been significantly dumbed down this time around for the consoles I believe.
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i don't get people who say it's okay that it has no innovation at all and is literally the same game we played a decade ago becaue ea told us that's what it'd be - packs of smokes have warning stickers, but the smokes themselves are still very lethal

maybe c&c3 should come with a warning sticker

something like warning: this game is very not good!

maybe they could word it better, maybe not - checl back with me later for more ideas about the sticker

82% seems like a reasonable score for what is essentially a ten year old game in a new (and not so new) engine - i grew sick of c&c after red alert 2, but it is a fun series - and if i didn't have dawn of war, i'd probably buy c&c3 just, to reminisce

command and conquer 3, though, is one of those games that doesn't need a review - everyone who is gonna buy it is already gonna buy it, and everyone who isn't, isn't

for those who wanna play it - good for you, i'm happy you've gotten a game you wanna play - but really, in a day where making innovative, new games that offer new experiences and new challenges seems to be the centerpiece of half the discussions, on how games like oblivion and stuff have taken great concepts and watered them down, is don't give us better, just give us more really a message we should be sending as a community?

like i said though, it's nice that someone is getting some new games they want to play this year, seems like everything i want is delayed about billion and fifty years
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i don't get people who say it's okay that it has no innovation at all and is literally the same game we played a decade ago becaue ea told us that's what it'd be - packs of smokes have warning stickers, but the smokes themselves are still very lethal

maybe c&c3 should come with a warning sticker

something like warning: this game is very not good!

maybe they could word it better, maybe not - checl back with me later for more ideas about the sticker

82% seems like a reasonable score for what is essentially a ten year old game in a new (and not so new) engine - i grew sick of c&c after red alert 2, but it is a fun series - and if i didn't have dawn of war, i'd probably buy c&c3 just, to reminisce

command and conquer 3, though, is one of those games that doesn't need a review - everyone who is gonna buy it is already gonna buy it, and everyone who isn't, isn't

for those who wanna play it - good for you, i'm happy you've gotten a game you wanna play - but really, in a day where making innovative, new games that offer new experiences and new challenges seems to be the centerpiece of half the discussions, on how games like oblivion and stuff have taken great concepts and watered them down, is don't give us better, just give us more really a message we should be sending as a community?

like i said though, it's nice that someone is getting some new games they want to play this year, seems like everything i want is delayed about billion and fifty years
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Thats so true.  The game could get a 40% and I would still buy it.  C&C was one of my first games and first RTS games at that, so it has a special spot in my heart.  I am happy we are getting a new game, with new missions and a great story with great storytelling elements.

I used to agree with people about needing more innovation and stuff like that, but now I just care about having fun.  Prey was fun and so was Oblivion, so what kind of gamer would I be if I said they were bad games ("bad" implies a game is not enjoyable) because they watered down RPG elements, or were just a vanilla shooter with a gimmick or two?

C&C 3 wont offer new RTS elements the way Homeworld and CoH/Dawn of War did, nor will it be the prettiest game, but it will be...FUN!  And thats why we play games, isnt it?

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thats funny, because PCGamerUS gave it a 90%.Jd1680a
Yeah, but the Australia GamePro gave Supreme Commander a 52%...just goes to show the differing opinions. After all, the ratings usually come from 1 person (or, in the case of a more popular game like CnC3 or SupCom, maybe a team of 5 people).
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#16 MoeMania
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That really is sad that you would buy it even if it got a majority of new reviews, that is exactly why EA bought the franchise because they know all they have to do is make a rehash over and over and they will makes loads of money, they view you and other CnC fans as cows and with comments like the one you made rightfully so I guess, I think it's sad though personally.
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#17 MoeMania
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]thats funny, because PCGamerUS gave it a 90%.Smudge_Smill
Yeah, but the Australia GamePro gave Supreme Commander a 52%...just goes to show the differing opinions. After all, the ratings usually come from 1 person (or, in the case of a more popular game like CnC3 or SupCom, maybe a team of 5 people).

Ya and now they are going out of business because of that review and have had there reviews removed from Metacritic and GameRankings! They based there whole supcom review on the system requirements anyway, I seemed they may have been unlucky enough to own a computer with the sound bug because my crappy computer runs supcom fine.
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#18 kris2456
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I was really hyped for C&C:3, but once i tried the demo, i realised i was mistaken. Tbh, it felt nothing like the old games, everything was so damn flashy that i found it hard to figure out wtf was going on, the game is zoomed in miles meaning there is little strategy.

And grouped units! wtf?!
This game is another example of dumbing down for consoles, that is all.
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#19 Terrorantula
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I played the Demo and to me it seemed too much like the old games with no innovation, i'm happy with RA2 and think it still plays better than the demo did. I'll give the full game a chance and then decide to buy it or not.
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#20 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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When I tried CnC3 demo I liked several things but some ticked me off. Your buildings occupy more space and so you spread out a hell a lot more out of the comfort zone. I also thought tiberium fields get exhausted waay too fast. And who ever made Ion Cannon and Nuke missile cost money, I really don't like that person. Overall it seemed ok.
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#21 biggest_loser
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The game isn't even out yet! How did those thugs get their filthy paws on a copy?
 
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#22 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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The game isn't even out yet! How did those thugs get their filthy paws on a copy?
 biggest_loser
PC Gamer magazines always get early copies because publishers and devs know PC gamer is read by many people therefore they will know to buy their products. Hence why I have been a pc gamer subscriber almost 3 years now.
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#23 speed1
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I was really hyped for C&C:3, but once i tried the demo, i realised i was mistaken. Tbh, it felt nothing like the old games, everything was so damn flashy that i found it hard to figure out wtf was going on, the game is zoomed in miles meaning there is little strategy.

And grouped units! wtf?!
This game is another example of dumbing down for consoles, that is all.
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Zoomed in miles? Just because the older games had a more isometric appearance doesn't mean this is too zoomed in. And how is it not like the old games? Because you tech up faster? Because it plays faster?
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#24 speed1
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I was really hyped for C&C:3, but once i tried the demo, i realised i was mistaken. Tbh, it felt nothing like the old games, everything was so damn flashy that i found it hard to figure out wtf was going on, the game is zoomed in miles meaning there is little strategy.

And grouped units! wtf?!
This game is another example of dumbing down for consoles, that is all.
kris2456
Zoomed in miles? Just because the older games had a more isometric appearance doesn't mean this is too zoomed in. And how is it not like the old games? Because you tech up faster? Because it plays faster?
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#25 muscrat_01
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I like the style, story line, characters, sides, units and FMVs - the presentation is fantastic - but I enjoy Supreme Commander more.

I feel C&C3 is more of a tank rush 'luvin' game, and a race for the superweapon.

Supreme Commanders level 1 and 2 units are a bit bland, the story isnt great, the characters are forgettable, but the tactical depth of the gameplay is amazing. It really gives you a sense of freedom in your aprroach, and your decisions usually are more thought out rather than hording a bunch of tanks.

I am much better at Company of Heroes though - thats my favourite.

1.CoH
2.Sup Com
3.C&C3
4.DoW
5.MeTW2 / RTW
6.C&C Generals
7.AoE / RoN
8.Ground Control
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#26 ChocoKat
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I am not surprised at all. Well I get the game? I guess I will just because it's Command and Conquer. *SIGH*
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#27 muscrat_01
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[QUOTE="kris2456"]I was really hyped for C&C:3, but once i tried the demo, i realised i was mistaken. Tbh, it felt nothing like the old games, everything was so damn flashy that i found it hard to figure out wtf was going on, the game is zoomed in miles meaning there is little strategy.

And grouped units! wtf?!
This game is another example of dumbing down for consoles, that is all.
speed1
Zoomed in miles? Just because the older games had a more isometric appearance doesn't mean this is too zoomed in. And how is it not like the old games? Because you tech up faster? Because it plays faster?

Actually in C&C 3 you can soom out considerably further than in Generals - more like as far as the camera is in C&C1 and RA1.
And there is a thing called Radar........

I do love Sup Coms zoom though. Fantastic element.... But wouldent suit C&C.............

I mean C&C is C&C.....................