command and conquer 4 vs zero

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#1 roguas
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Is it better than command and conquer generals ?
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#2 Rob_101
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CnC4 is the worst CnC ever (maybe even the worst RTS ever), what do you think?

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#3 Drazule
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Stormrise is the worst RTS ever, but CnC 4 is still a horrible game.

Edit: Then againg, Stalin Vs Martians stained the genre as well.

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#4 nutcrackr
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No it isn't
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#5 IvanElk
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War between two crappy games.
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#6 capthavic
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C&C4 isn't even a C&C game at all. The only thing even remotely similar is Joe Kucan and the live action cutscenes, and from I've seen/heard even those aren't very good.
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#7 deactivated-5f0340ca5ecca
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C&C4 is no RTS it's an RTT (Real Time Tactical) It's got no macro-management.
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#8 SF_KiLLaMaN
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I though Generals and Zero Hour were pretty good games. I don't know why people hate them. It is much better than C&C 4, But I do find C&C 4 pretty fun.
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#9 Phoenix534
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C&C 4 is more of an RTT than an RTS. Still, it can be fun if you don't go into it expecting a Command & Conquer game.

I though Generals and Zero Hour were pretty good games. I don't know why people hate them. It is much better than C&C 4, But I do find C&C 4 pretty fun.SF_KiLLaMaN

I completely agree. Generals is my favorite in the series. Why people hate them, I'll never understand.

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#10 ionusX
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i thought generals was pretty damn solid but thats just the warcraft 2 is superior to SC2 sort of me..

and to answer questions regarding that.. blizzard has a bad habit of burning all the rice fields in order to turn a profit.. there very bad at that and it annoys me. for example why the hell are the elves of silvermoon night elves when in warcraft 1 & 2 they were all high elves and therefor white.. they all take up plastic surgery or something?

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#11 RichardStallman
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[QUOTE="dannenissan2"]C&C4 is no RTS it's an RTT (Real Time Tactical) It's got no macro-management.

No such thing as RTT.
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#12 Doomsong83
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C&C4 isn't even a C&C game at all. The only thing even remotely similar is Joe Kucan and the live action cutscenes, and from I've seen/heard even those aren't very good.capthavic

If you sat there and tried to take them seriously then you totally missed the point. They're supposed to be kinda cheesy and overacted.

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#13 deactivated-5f0340ca5ecca
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[QUOTE="RichardStallman"][QUOTE="dannenissan2"]C&C4 is no RTS it's an RTT (Real Time Tactical) It's got no macro-management.

No such thing as RTT.

There is now! look at cnc 4
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#14 F1_2004
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_tactics
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#15 DanielDust
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_tacticsF1_2004

Ignore him, he will always say such nonsense.

Generals was a solid game but anyway I personally didn't like it, still I enjoyed it way more than the C&C 4 beta.

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#16 mrbojangles25
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I dont understand the hate for Generals. Was it a classic C&C game? No, of course not, but it was incredibly fun online and offline with three unique factions

I havent played C&C 4, but I can already tell you Generals is the superior game lol

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#17 scotty992
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Generals is ok but 4 is really lame its ruined C&C for me.

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#18 mrbojangles25
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Generals is ok but 4 is really lame its ruined C&C for me.

scotty992

I want to try C&C4 so bad, simply because its one of my favorite franchises...but I am so scared. And I dont want to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to me

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#19 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="scotty992"]

Generals is ok but 4 is really lame its ruined C&C for me.

mrbojangles25

I want to try C&C4 so bad, simply because its one of my favorite franchises...but I am so scared. And I dont want to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to me

prepare to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to you
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#20 scotty992
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="scotty992"]

Generals is ok but 4 is really lame its ruined C&C for me.

F1_2004

I want to try C&C4 so bad, simply because its one of my favorite franchises...but I am so scared. And I dont want to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to me

prepare to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to you

Yeah I tried it round my friends house I dunno what they were thinking it doesn't feel like a proper C&C game. No idea why they had to change what proved to be a good game formula.
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#21 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I want to try C&C4 so bad, simply because its one of my favorite franchises...but I am so scared. And I dont want to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to me

scotty992

prepare to spend 50 bucks on a game that doesnt really appeal to you

Yeah I tried it round my friends house I dunno what they were thinking it doesn't feel like a proper C&C game. No idea why they had to change what proved to be a good game formula.

exactly.

dont get me wrong, I am a fan of innovation.

but when a certain game formula for a game has proven for over a decade to be successful, popular, and fruitful for a developer and publisher...you dont mess with it.

C&C games just shouldnt be messed with dramatically, like they did with C&C 4.

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#22 SLAYERO0
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Stormrise is the worst RTS ever, but CnC 4 is still a horrible game.

Edit: Then againg, Stalin Vs Martians stained the genre as well.

Drazule

I'd go with endwar.... It brought slow paced Rts gaming to a whole new level, not to mention the 12 units max cap.

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#23 capthavic
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[QUOTE="capthavic"]C&C4 isn't even a C&C game at all. The only thing even remotely similar is Joe Kucan and the live action cutscenes, and from I've seen/heard even those aren't very good.Doomsong83

If you sat there and tried to take them seriously then you totally missed the point. They're supposed to be kinda cheesy and overacted.

I've been a C&C fan for a loooong time so I'm well aware of that they are supposed to be cheesy. Hell thats one of the reasons I loved them. But with Twilight they were going for more serious tone rather than cheesy. And even if they had been it isn't just the dull cast and cheap props, even Kane is phoning it in.

At best it's a below average strategy game with nearly nothing to do with the previous series. At worst it's a betrayal of hardcore fans and a disgraceful end to the franchise.