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#1 Goodfella_no4
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I am building this in 2 days. I need your opinions.

Intel C2D E8400

ASUS P5Q-E

Gigabyte Radeon HD4850

2 GB (2x1) DDR2-800 Kingston ValueRAM

500 GB WD SATA2 HDD

Samsung 22X DVD-Burner

HEC 650W PSU (It's an unknow brand in the US)

So, what do you think?

I have an unrelated question: This motherboard support up to 16 GB of RAM. If I later buy a 2x2 GB kit, exactly the same kind and speed, will I be able to run dual channel. I will be running 6 GB this way.

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#2 Simsfreak14
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Nice rig, but what GPU are you putting in it?
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#3 mastershake575
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Nice rig, but what GPU are you putting in it?Simsfreak14
It clearly says HD4850 ?
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#4 jpph
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sweet. but be wary of the psu!
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#5 Goodfella_no4
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Here is the PSU:

http://www.hec-group.com.tw/model.php?category=psu&sub_category=certified_psu&model=zephyr

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#6 Simsfreak14
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[QUOTE="Simsfreak14"]Nice rig, but what GPU are you putting in it?mastershake575
It clearly says HD4850 ?

I musta missed it.

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#7 WDT-BlackKat
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Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

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#8 Simsfreak14
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Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

WDT-BlackKat

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

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#9 Goodfella_no4
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[QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

Simsfreak14

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

This is correct. HEC is like the best PSU brand here. As for the RAM, there is Kingston and A-Data. 1066 is also available, but I think 800 will be enough, right? Nobody answered my 2x1 + 2x2 RAM question. Thanks, guys.
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#10 Goodfella_no4
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And by the way: they timings for the 800 MHz Kingston RAM is: 5-5-5-18
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well if you paly higher reoslutio then 1280x1024 and seek higher spec get 4870. and another question what country ur from and what place u buy ur part ? and what money currency ? (pound) (euros) (Canada dollar) (Australian dollar) ? or some exotic place foreign of half of market of pc ?
cause for those place i know some great website. since i helped 3 France computer : 4 british comp : 10 canadians : 7 american since im from msn / gamespot when nobody help enough or have unclear mind and no benchmark i come in and give my opinions that all don't for anyone to buy. but i make them reconsider benchmark
sometime adding 100$ can make a big difference the most essential part are cpu : video card : motherboard
ram number higher then 2GB is not essantial to fPS . ram is secondary. t hen you overclock based on what memory can do it i heard so having some weak memory can result as bad oc result or failure that what i heard. but im not a pro overclocker lol
where i live i got my 2GB patriot memory. 2 year ago 800mhz 50$ after mail in rebate and instant rebate :P
4-4-4-12 but cas latency is having trouble when overclocking and mhz i heard so. don't know how it all work
like i heard if it 4-4-4-12 you have to change voltage so it only runing like a 5-5-5-16 but does of cpu overclock
it does worth it mean while i think i saw E8500 3.8ghz with 4-4-4-12 800mhz oc. not sure in the benchmark i
i just know from some benchmark overclocking cpu is giving a Great increase. of fps. for gamers and unlike amd
it mean for overclock the intel cpu. and do work well as long you have cooling solution and follow guide
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0

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it depends what OS you have to be able to tell how much RAM you can handle. If its a 32 bit OS it can only support up to 3 gigs after that its just ignored but a 64 bit can handle up to 8 i believe.
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i must admit that was horrid on my eyes trying to read the terrible grammer and spelling, try even the spaces and sentances......
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i must admit that was horrid on my eyes trying to read the terrible grammer and spelling, try even the spaces and sentances......shadowcreaper

He's bilingual buddy, bear with it.

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#15 Chris_53
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[QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

Simsfreak14

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

We do have those brands here, im in the UK and im using OCZ

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#16 zxvb
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I am building this in 2 days. I need your opinions.

Intel C2D E8400

ASUS P5Q-E

Gigabyte Radeon HD4850

2 GB (2x1) DDR2-800 Kingston ValueRAM

500 GB WD SATA2 HDD

Samsung 22X DVD-Burner

HEC 650W PSU (It's an unknow brand in the US)

So, what do you think?

I have an unrelated question: This motherboard support up to 16 GB of RAM. If I later buy a 2x2 GB kit, exactly the same kind and speed, will I be able to run dual channel. I will be running 6 GB this way.

Goodfella_no4

are you a goodfellas movie fan by chance?

anyway from personal experience dont get an asus motherboard. on my last one, the IDE cable for the dvd drive didnt reach the motherboard.

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#17 WDT-BlackKat
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[QUOTE="Simsfreak14"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

Goodfella_no4

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

This is correct. HEC is like the best PSU brand here. As for the RAM, there is Kingston and A-Data. 1066 is also available, but I think 800 will be enough, right? Nobody answered my 2x1 + 2x2 RAM question. Thanks, guys.

So where do you live, UK? HEC is a horrible brand there too. Get this and ... for the RAM--->Overclockers too.

There is no way those brands are not available even if you're not in the UK. Short of being in Burkina Faso or some third world hell hole like Naples, Italy, you can find all brands everywhere.

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#18 WDT-BlackKat
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...anyway from personal experience dont get an asus motherboard. on my last one, the IDE cable for the dvd drive didnt reach the motherboard. zxvb

For one thing nobody uses IDE anymore. And that has nothing to do with the motherboard but the size and placement of items in your case. Also they do make varied lengths of IDE cables (and SATA cables which is what everyone uses now).

Asus is one of the only brands of motherboards one should consider getting, along with Gigabyte and DFI. All others are built by people who live in group homes.

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#19 Goodfella_no4
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[QUOTE="Goodfella_no4"][QUOTE="Simsfreak14"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

WDT-BlackKat

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

This is correct. HEC is like the best PSU brand here. As for the RAM, there is Kingston and A-Data. 1066 is also available, but I think 800 will be enough, right? Nobody answered my 2x1 + 2x2 RAM question. Thanks, guys.

So where do you live, UK? HEC is a horrible brand there too. Get this and ... for the RAM--->Overclockers too.

There is no way those brands are not available even if you're not in the UK. Short of being in Burkina Faso or some third world hell hole like Naples, Italy, you can find all brands everywhere.

Thanks for your "politeness". I live in Egypt, which is a third world country... But by no means a hell hole.

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#20 Goodfella_no4
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well if you paly higher reoslutio then 1280x1024 and seek higher spec get 4870. and another question what country ur from and what place u buy ur part ? and what money currency ? (pound) (euros) (Canada dollar) (Australian dollar) ? or some exotic place foreign of half of market of pc ?
cause for those place i know some great website. since i helped 3 France computer : 4 british comp : 10 canadians : 7 american since im from msn / gamespot when nobody help enough or have unclear mind and no benchmark i come in and give my opinions that all don't for anyone to buy. but i make them reconsider benchmark
sometime adding 100$ can make a big difference the most essential part are cpu : video card : motherboard
ram number higher then 2GB is not essantial to fPS . ram is secondary. t hen you overclock based on what memory can do it i heard so having some weak memory can result as bad oc result or failure that what i heard. but im not a pro overclocker lol
where i live i got my 2GB patriot memory. 2 year ago 800mhz 50$ after mail in rebate and instant rebate :P
4-4-4-12 but cas latency is having trouble when overclocking and mhz i heard so. don't know how it all work
like i heard if it 4-4-4-12 you have to change voltage so it only runing like a 5-5-5-16 but does of cpu overclock
it does worth it mean while i think i saw E8500 3.8ghz with 4-4-4-12 800mhz oc. not sure in the benchmark i
i just know from some benchmark overclocking cpu is giving a Great increase. of fps. for gamers and unlike amd
it mean for overclock the intel cpu. and do work well as long you have cooling solution and follow guide
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0

marcthpro

I play at 1680x1050. Are you sure that the 4850 won't be adequate? On another PC with a 8800GT, I can max games on the 1680x1050 monitor.

I am not a fan of overclocking, but I think with 800 MHz, I can go for 3.6 GHz on the E8400 easily (400x9), right? Do I still need the 1066 ones? The price difference is a bit on the high side.

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#21 Goodfella_no4
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[QUOTE="Goodfella_no4"]

I am building this in 2 days. I need your opinions.

Intel C2D E8400

ASUS P5Q-E

Gigabyte Radeon HD4850

2 GB (2x1) DDR2-800 Kingston ValueRAM

500 GB WD SATA2 HDD

Samsung 22X DVD-Burner

HEC 650W PSU (It's an unknow brand in the US)

So, what do you think?

I have an unrelated question: This motherboard support up to 16 GB of RAM. If I later buy a 2x2 GB kit, exactly the same kind and speed, will I be able to run dual channel. I will be running 6 GB this way.

zxvb

are you a goodfellas movie fan by chance?

anyway from personal experience dont get an asus motherboard. on my last one, the IDE cable for the dvd drive didnt reach the motherboard.

Yup!

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#22 marcthpro
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really ? but i knwo some peopel with Asus P5k Pro that as no wrong issue that people write on newegg.com lol
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#23 Goodfella_no4
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The thing is that I have NEVER bought an ASUS board. I have had many Gigabytes though. But the GB motherboards available are either too expensive (DQ6) or not as feature-rich as the P5Q-E (EP45-DS3R), that's why I am thinking of ASUS.
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they offer good overclock accoring few people on gamespo tjmnader13 sometnig like that a guy who wear a afro-american picture you know is new. he just posted he went asus P5K pro and he did oc is e8400 to 3.8ghz lol
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#25 WDT-BlackKat
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[QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"][QUOTE="Goodfella_no4"][QUOTE="Simsfreak14"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

Goodfella_no4

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

This is correct. HEC is like the best PSU brand here. As for the RAM, there is Kingston and A-Data. 1066 is also available, but I think 800 will be enough, right? Nobody answered my 2x1 + 2x2 RAM question. Thanks, guys.

So where do you live, UK? HEC is a horrible brand there too. Get this and ... for the RAM--->Overclockers too.

There is no way those brands are not available even if you're not in the UK. Short of being in Burkina Faso or some third world hell hole like Naples, Italy, you can find all brands everywhere.

Thanks for your "politeness". I live in Egypt, which is a third world country... But by no means a hell hole.

Egypt is at least a step above Naples, Italy. You likely have trash collectors there. So relax.

Have you tried finding parts via this site? You have to register to get to the links it provides so I can't say anything about whether it's any good, but it's worth a shot.

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#26 Goodfella_no4
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[QUOTE="Goodfella_no4"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"][QUOTE="Goodfella_no4"][QUOTE="Simsfreak14"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Switch PSU to a better, safer brand like Thermaltake, ABS, Hyper, etc.

Switch RAM, Kingston Value is dog food as is any "value" named model, Try 4 GB (2x2GB) G.Skill or Crucial.

Otherwise looks fine.

WDT-BlackKat

He dosn't live in the US, they may not have thos brands there.

This is correct. HEC is like the best PSU brand here. As for the RAM, there is Kingston and A-Data. 1066 is also available, but I think 800 will be enough, right? Nobody answered my 2x1 + 2x2 RAM question. Thanks, guys.

So where do you live, UK? HEC is a horrible brand there too. Get this and ... for the RAM--->Overclockers too.

There is no way those brands are not available even if you're not in the UK. Short of being in Burkina Faso or some third world hell hole like Naples, Italy, you can find all brands everywhere.

Thanks for your "politeness". I live in Egypt, which is a third world country... But by no means a hell hole.

Egypt is at least a step above Naples, Italy. You likely have trash collectors there. So relax.

Have you tried finding parts via this site? You have to register to get to the links it provides so I can't say anything about whether it's any good, but it's worth a shot.

I am sure that another reader from Naples, Italy will be really angry! Do you live in Naples?

Buying stuff online in Egypt is still not good. People here prefer the retail method. Thanks for the site, though. But you will need to buy things from the store for a proper receipt for those lousy warranty guys... They only offer warranty for products that were imported through the official distributor. They will refuse to honour any warranty unless they have the distributor's sticker on the box along with a receipt.

I wish it was as easy as newegg, but it's not!