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#1 NintendoFan1953
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Right now I have a 27" crt. I'm considering my first HDTV purchase. I work for an electronics retailer and have the opportunity to purchase a Samsung LN32A450 at a good price. I'll be using this tv for watching football, playing wii and 360, and also watching a lot of standard def dvds. My two main concerns are motion blur and quality of my standard dvds. I'm not expecting HDTV quality with the dvds, I just hear that sometimes they don't look as good on lcds. And that blur is bad on lcds. Anyopinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.
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Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.marksman77

the refresh rate does nothing for TVs.

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Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.marksman77

Well then 240 Hz should just blow you away. At the end of the day I bought a 52" Sony Bravia with plain old 60Hz and I have not noticed any issues. I am not going to say faster refresh rates are useless but you have to compare the television sets. Each manufacturer uses their own proprietary algorithm: LG has TruMotion, Samsung has Auto Motion Plus, Sony has Motionflow as well as others like JVC, Haier, Hisense (both Chinese knockoff brands). The algorithms pulse the LCD backlight others insert black frames, etc etc. So which is better?

With LG touting 240Hz on their new LCD lines, then why not just buy those if you got the money? Easy, don't bother until you actually compare performance. Which is often hard to do because the TV's you are looking at will not be side by side.

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[QUOTE="marksman77"]Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.distort10n

Well then 240 Hz should just blow you away. At the end of the day I bought a 52" Sony Bravia with plain old 60Hz and I have not noticed any issues. I am not going to say faster refresh rates are useless but you have to compare the television sets. Each manufacturer uses their own proprietary algorithm: LG has TruMotion, Samsung has Auto Motion Plus, Sony has Motionflow as well as others like JVC, Haier, Hisense (both Chinese knockoff brands). The algorithms pulse the LCD backlight others insert black frames, etc etc. So which is better?

With LG touting 240Hz on their new LCD lines, then why not just buy those if you got the money? Easy, don't bother until you actually compare performance. Which is often hard to do because the TV's you are looking at will not be side by side.

Is anybody listening refresh rate doesn't improve the picture quality.

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[QUOTE="marksman77"]Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.distort10n

Well then 240 Hz should just blow you away. At the end of the day I bought a 52" Sony Bravia with plain old 60Hz and I have not noticed any issues. I am not going to say faster refresh rates are useless but you have to compare the television sets. Each manufacturer uses their own proprietary algorithm: LG has TruMotion, Samsung has Auto Motion Plus, Sony has Motionflow as well as others like JVC, Haier, Hisense (both Chinese knockoff brands). The algorithms pulse the LCD backlight others insert black frames, etc etc. So which is better?

With LG touting 240Hz on their new LCD lines, then why not just buy those if you got the money? Easy, don't bother until you actually compare performance. Which is often hard to do because the TV's you are looking at will not be side by side.

If all your used to is 60hz then yeah you won't notice a difference but since I got a 120Hz recently it makes me not want to go back to anything less. 240hz is overkill though 120hz is not.

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[QUOTE="marksman77"]Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.joshuahaveron

the refresh rate does nothing for TVs.

your wrong, especially if youre playing games on it or watching fast paced sports
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#9 distort10n
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If all your used to is 60hz then yeah you won't notice a difference but since I got a 120Hz recently it makes me not want to go back to anything less. 240hz is overkill though 120hz is not.

nVidiaGaMer

I do not remember the model number, but I was looking at an LG 52" LDC with 120Hz and the Sony Bravia 52" with 60Hz that I have today and I can say it was not worth the extra money. I had a hard time differentiating motion blur due to the source material against the TV's themselves so based on that I opted for the less expensive Sony Bravia.

Perhaps the algorithms used now are better so 120Hz is ZOMGSOAWESOMLOL, I don't know but I do not care as I am not irritated with the picture.

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[QUOTE="marksman77"]Since you already work at a electronics store. I would save up for a set that had 120 Hz processing. It makes movies look amazing! There is a huge difference in the picture quality of not having that feature. My father-in-law just bought a Samsung LN52650 52" HDTV. It has the 120 hz processing which even makes up-converted DVDs look sharper. If you can swing it, I would save for that tv. If not, try to get 120hz processing and you have to get 1080p.joshuahaveron

the refresh rate does nothing for TVs.

Uh, it's actually quite important if you're playing video games or watching fast paced movies that cause motion jitter/blur. LCD technology naturally produces distortions. Higher refresh rates compensate for this and correct motion jitter/blur.

You really need to stop posting when you clearly don't have a clue.

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You guys are ruthless :/ At the moment, unless you have a super uber computer that can hit 120fps with VSync enabled, or if you're going to be doing some stereoscopic 3D gaming, then 120Hz is not needed. If you can afford a 120Hz LCD, I would recommend getting one for 3DVision. Otherwise, they are indeed useless. Current TV broadcasts, 360 games, PS3 games, and bluray see no benefit from a 120Hz tv. And seriously, can you really see a difference when you get more than 60fps? BTW, I bought a 120Hz LCD projector for 3DVision, but that is the ONLY reason...
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#12 distort10n
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And seriously, can you really see a difference when you get more than 60fps? BTW, I bought a 120Hz LCD projector for 3DVision, but that is the ONLY reason...-GeordiLaForge-

Yes, because it is like an audiophile saying that they can hear the difference between 0.01% TDH+N and 0.000001% THD+N. Whatyagotman? Dog Ears?