Considering going Intel, should I join the darkside?

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#1 habitat
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Well...im planning on building my own system in March around the second gen release of DX10 cards.  Now, my question is about which way to go with the processor.  Im an AMD guy...in other words, I know nothing about intel chips (just like im an NVIDIA guy not an ATI guy).  Now...I know i can easily figure out which motherboards are compatible with Intel DUO's ETC, but I want to know personally what you would reccomend (AMD Dual Core or Intel Core 2 Duo).  The "word" is that DUO's are better than AMD X2 dual cores...but i can save like 150 dollars if I go with AMD.  What do you think?

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#2 FlameMe
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I'm an Intel guy myself, and I dont really know how AMD performance stack up against Intel so I usually just buy Intel since I always know what I am getting into. I've never been let down when I purchased a new Intel CPU, so I'd personally so Intel just they've never let me down and have always been reliable.
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#3 nohabs
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I'm doing the exact same thing as you. I had spec'd out an AMD system, then I was talked into going intel. So far I spec'd out a intel E6600, CPU,
intel mobo - D975xbx 2, or Asus P5N32 SLI SE deluxe
with a 8800gtx vid card

From what I've read so far , right now intel is the top dog

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#4 Gregoroth
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If you want to save money -> AMD If you want best performance -> Intel
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#5 TheDarthvader
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Core 2 Duo outclass AMD X2 pretty much in every aspect.
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#6 matthewjackman
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At the moment AMD prices are so low because the Intel Core 2 Duo's are outperforming them in every way. I could only recommend AMD's now if you are building on a really tight budget and don't won't to make something with high performance. Oh, this is from a guy who has used AMD chips the past two builds.
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#7 Jagg3d
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Unfortunately I bought mine before C2D came out and I have a X2 4400, awesome processor and does everything I want and more but I dunno how a C2D Is
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#8 codezer0
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You can't go wrong either way. If you believe the intel fanboys, they'd have you believe that the AM2 processors just like lost half their performance before the C2D came out or something. The good thing is that now getting an AMD is getting much cheaper, and you can buy some good AMD-based parts for much cheaper now. :) What is your budget and what were you planning to get altogether?
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#9 habitat
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[QUOTE="codezer0"]You can't go wrong either way. If you believe the intel fanboys, they'd have you believe that the AM2 processors just like lost half their performance before the C2D came out or something. The good thing is that now getting an AMD is getting much cheaper, and you can buy some good AMD-based parts for much cheaper now. :) What is your budget and what were you planning to get altogether?

The max i want to spend (because i have to pay for car insurance and books for school) is about $1200. Im looking to get all these components (a whole new build): Case (looking for something with good airflow and asthetically pleasing with a side window for about 80 dollars) Motherboard Video Card (Probably the 8600 when it comes out because it's an affordable DX10 card) CPU (of course) HARD DRIVE (around 160 gig) 700 watt PSU Cheap Floppy Drive CDRW/DVD Drive 2 Gigs of Ram (With heatspreader) Budget is the main reason i was going to go with Athlon, but if i have to save a little more to get performance from Intel i will because this will be a gaming rig. Also, if i buy either one of these processors...is it neccessary to buy a high perfomance heatsink if im not overclocking? or should it be fine with the heatsink it comes with?
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#10 BeavermanA
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I'm not really biased towards either company, I'll get whichever is faster at the time I need a new build. That being said, Intel is currently quite a bit ahead of AMD, not only that, their prices for the gamers that wish to overclock are unbeatable. You can spend $180 on the E6300 and exceed the performance of an FX-62. If you have a bit more money to spend, the $320 E6600 is ideal. To put this into perspective since you know about AMDs, at a stock clock speed of 2.4 ghz the E6600 beats the FX-74. It will easily get to 3 ghz and 3.6 ghz+ with an aftermarket heatsink. No AMD cpu can even touch that currently. There is no reason to go AMD right now unless you want to spend less than $180 on a cpu.
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#11 Gregoroth
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I could only recommend AMD's now if you are building on a really tight budget and don't won't to make something with high performance.matthewjackman
I wouldn't have said it like that. The Core 2 Duo's are better but that doesn't mean the X2's are no good. That's something people tend to forget...
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#12 macpop
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Well...im planning on building my own system in March around the second gen release of DX10 cards. Now, my question is about which way to go with the processor. Im an AMD guy...in other words, I know nothing about intel chips (just like im an NVIDIA guy not an ATI guy). Now...I know i can easily figure out which motherboards are compatible with Intel DUO's ETC, but I want to know personally what you would reccomend (AMD Dual Core or Intel Core 2 Duo). The "word" is that DUO's are better than AMD X2 dual cores...but i can save like 150 dollars if I go with AMD. What do you think?

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both are good, the new Brisbane core from am2 65nm are mad overclockers, just like intels e6300, the 3600x2 is known to hit 2.4-2.8ghz with stock cooling and does more with better, and i cant wait to see wat clocks they get with the 4800x2 65nm @ 2.5ghz stock its gonna be around 3.0ghz+ for sure, but intel is on top right now by a few fps diff which to me i can give less when im playin all my games smothly
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#13 habitat
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I'm not really biased towards either company, I'll get whichever is faster at the time I need a new build. That being said, Intel is currently quite a bit ahead of AMD, not only that, their prices for the gamers that wish to overclock are unbeatable. You can spend $180 on the E6300 and exceed the performance of an FX-62. If you have a bit more money to spend, the $320 E6600 is ideal. To put this into perspective since you know about AMDs, at a stock clock speed of 2.4 ghz the E6600 beats the FX-74. It will easily get to 3 ghz and 3.6 ghz+ with an aftermarket heatsink. No AMD cpu can even touch that currently. There is no reason to go AMD right now unless you want to spend less than $180 on a cpu. BeavermanA
good point.
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#14 codezer0
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In that case, I would suggest going with the AM2 system; At least nowadays, you could get a fairly fast X2 and a 590SLi board for fairly cheap.
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#15 macpop
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In that case, I would suggest going with the AM2 system; At least nowadays, you could get a fairly fast X2 and a 590SLi board for fairly cheap.codezer0
yea a 3600x2 or any 65nm with a dfi 590sli can get u some mad clocks
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#16 GamingMonkeyPC
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I've went to NewEgg and compiled a Core 2 Duo list and I think you should be able to work with it just fine with your budget.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115013

Gigabyte P965-DS3 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128012

Corsair XMS2 2 GB DDR2-800 Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145590

Thermaltake ToughPower 750 Watt Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817153038

Western Digital 160 GB SATAII Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822136062

Samsung DVD Burner SATA Optical Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151141

NEC Floppy Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16821152005

Total comes around $821.20, which would leave you $400, which should be enough to cover your $80 case and 8600 video card, heck maybe even a 8800 video card. Your call though, since you said you're going to build the system around March, prices could change.
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#17 darkmagician06
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by march the cheap intel quad cores should be out...the choice is obvious
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#19 habitat
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I've went to NewEgg and compiled a Core 2 Duo list and I think you should be able to work with it just fine with your budget.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115013

Gigabyte P965-DS3 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128012

Corsair XMS2 2 GB DDR2-800 Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145590

Thermaltake ToughPower 750 Watt Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817153038

Western Digital 160 GB SATAII Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822136062

Samsung DVD Burner SATA Optical Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151141

NEC Floppy Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16821152005

Total comes around $821.20, which would leave you $400, which should be enough to cover your $80 case and 8600 video card, heck maybe even a 8800 video card. Your call though, since you said you're going to build the system around March, prices could change.
GamingMonkeyPC
thanks for compiling this list. Ive got some tough choices.
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#21 Baselerd
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If you want a gaming rig, I would advise getting a Core 2 Duo, especially an e8*** series (they just came out). However, you can get a good AMD processor for alot cheaper. AMD's faster processor, the X2 6400+, is a little faster than the e6600. It costs $165ish, whereas the e6750, which is substantially faster costs $185ish. However, the processor to get right now seems to be the e8400 @ $220ish, if that's in your budget.

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#22 stevencompton
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Personally, I can't imagine myself buying an Intel CPU, so I'm probably bias, but a decent AMD processor isn't going to be the bottleneck when gaming. So as far as gaming goes, I doubt you will notice any difference between the two with the same GPU. The GPU is almost always going to be the bottleneck, and when it isn't, the framerate will be so high you can't tell the difference anyway (60+ frames per second). If games are your main concern, personally I would save money with an AMD CPU and put it towards a better GPU, but I admit, Intel do offer better performance, so if you feel you need a really fast CPU then buy an Intel CPU. I haven't been keeping up with the current prices of Intel and AMD, but I have to admit that clock for clock, Intel are a few hundred mhz faster, and you may be able to get a faster Intel CPU even in the budget price bracket now even if it is clocked lower than the AMD, so I don't really feel that I can strongly say I recommend buying AMD for any situation. But as I said, I would still buy an AMD CPU :P .

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#23 oscar530
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I used to be heavily into AMD until the Core 2 Duos came out
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#24 Baselerd
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Also, whether or not you go with Intel or AMD, I would advise getting anything below an AMD X2 6000+ or an Intel e6550 if you are looking at gaming.
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#25 jxditu
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i was an amd guy for a long time but i just built a intel rig and i can tell the difference. clock for clock the c2d wins against the x2's. infact the only advantage the x2 has right now is the onchip memory controller. o and price. do what i did get the e8400 and a good 8800gt and your good for now.
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OLLLLLLDDDDDD thread.... :|
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#27 m2twkisfun
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I may have missed some stuff, but you say you may buy an 8600, in which case that would bottleneck your system more than your CPU would. So I would suggest maybe a 3850 over the 8600, much better performance for a reasonable price, to go allong with what ever processor you have.

Sorry for going off topic.

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#28 Indestructible2
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I may have missed some stuff, but you say you may buy an 8600, in which case that would bottleneck your system more than your CPU would. So I would suggest maybe a 3850 over the 8600, much better performance for a reasonable price, to go allong with what ever processor you have.

Sorry for going off topic.

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This thread was made over a year ago...
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lol wth
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lol wthBaselerd

hahahaha.

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#31 SearchMaster
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[QUOTE="m2twkisfun"]

I may have missed some stuff, but you say you may buy an 8600, in which case that would bottleneck your system more than your CPU would. So I would suggest maybe a 3850 over the 8600, much better performance for a reasonable price, to go allong with what ever processor you have.

Sorry for going off topic.

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This thread was made over a year ago...

I cant count how many old threads i just read today :S