Consoles at 70% Performance ???

- This isn't a System Wars post

- I've posted in the PC section for a reason

So I was at my local EB Games today. I went to exchange my XBOX360 for a PS3 since all my friends play FIFA12 on PS3.

I started talking to the guy there and he said we wouldn't see a PS4 until late 2014. The thing is he said, that right now the PS3 is only pushed to 70% from it's maximum performance. Most games, he said, don't push the PS3 past the 50% mark and some go to 60%-70%.

So I started wondering, could this be true?

Could games not push the hardware as hard as it would go? Same as most games don't push PC Hardware?

Is this why the graphics on PS3 are lower compared to PC?

Thoughts?

PS: off-topic, but does anybody know if it's possible to chat with PS3 friends on Windows?

It might be technically true but it's not likely to actually mean that we're likely to see an increase in game quality. The best looking games on the PS3 today are very much pushing the envelope of what the machine can do in one way or another. I wouldn't be that surprised to learn that the average game left the machine with a little extra juice but that's the same on all platforms, only a few games really pushes the machine to its full potential.

The second issue is that in order for a game to run it has to meet several parameters. Just because the CPU is running at 50% capacity doesn't mean that you're not using 100% of the RAM or the GPU.

In short, we're not going to see dramatic changes to the way Xbox360 and PS3 games look, we might see a gradual increase in the overall quality, but games like God of War, Uncharted 2-3 and Gears of War 3 are still going to be among the best looking titles a couple of years from now.

Look at the ps3 exclusives released in the last 2 years or so. They all look the same quality wise these days for a reason.

His logic was that a next gen console isn't released until the current gen one hit 100%?

Dafuq?

And in any case, no, he's wrong. ND have released the best looking PS3 games and they said they maxed it out.

Hi there, I'm a guy that works at EB. I say that the consoles are only using 20% of there total maximum performance. I must be correct in saying this. Ugh, why do you even talk to people that spew this crap?

Oh, and to be able to chat with your PS3 friends via Windows, all they need to do is install Linux onto their PS3's. :)

Hi there, I'm a guy that works at EB. I say that the consoles are only using 20% of there total maximum performance. I must be correct in saying this. Ugh, why do you even talk to people that spew this crap?-CheeseEater-

I wasn't talking to him.

He offered extended warranty on the PS3 ($40) for an extra 2 years which I declined saying the PS4 will probably be out by then.

When he heard this he went into "babble" mode and started praising the PS3 which included this 70% comment.

I was just like, "give me the damn thing already, my old Pentium 4 could kick this PS's ass"...

[QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"]Hi there, I'm a guy that works at EB. I say that the consoles are only using 20% of there total maximum performance. I must be correct in saying this. Ugh, why do you even talk to people that spew this crap?FelipeInside

lol i think hes far off. but as to your chat with pc ps3 as far as i know its not possible. there is a loophole for the xbox but i havent seen any for ps.

New programming optimizations become common place over time, so of course more can be squeezed out of the same hardware. Personally I look forward to the next generation of consoles getting rid of many of the sort of people that don't belong on PC(and are only here because of graphics rather than kb + mouse, open platform, all the pc exclusive games, mods, freedom/control, multi tasking, etc).Zubinen

New programming optimizations become common place over time, so of course more can be squeezed out of the same hardware. Personally I look forward to the next generation of consoles getting rid of many of the sort of people that don't belong on PC(and are only here because of graphics rather than kb + mouse, open platform, all the pc exclusive games, mods, freedom/control, multi tasking, etc).Zubinen

[QUOTE="Zubinen"]New programming optimizations become common place over time, so of course more can be squeezed out of the same hardware. Personally I look forward to the next generation of consoles getting rid of many of the sort of people that don't belong on PC(and are only here because of graphics rather than kb + mouse, open platform, all the pc exclusive games, mods, freedom/control, multi tasking, etc).FelipeInside

I think he's talking about how most games are optimized for the xbox360?

(...)he said we wouldn't see a PS4 until late 2014 (...) right now the PS3 is only pushed to 70% from it's maximum performance.FelipeInside

No. All consoles are obsolete.

You can't just describe it like that, you can't just say the game is only using 70% of the power or something, that isn't how it works. You can have an absolutely terrible game that runs at an abysmal framerate and that game can have 100% usage, and you can have games that look great like Uncharted 2 that also use the hardware to the max. It depends on the efficiency of the code. Anyone who says something like what your EB guy said haven't the slightest idea what they are talking about.ferret-gamer

- This isn't a System Wars post

- I've posted in the PC section for a reason

So I was at my local EB Games today. I went to exchange my XBOX360 for a PS3 since all my friends play FIFA12 on PS3.

I started talking to the guy there and he said we wouldn't see a PS4 until late 2014. The thing is he said, that right now the PS3 is only pushed to 70% from it's maximum performance. Most games, he said, don't push the PS3 past the 50% mark and some go to 60%-70%.

So I started wondering, could this be true?

Could games not push the hardware as hard as it would go? Same as most games don't push PC Hardware?

Is this why the graphics on PS3 are lower compared to PC?

Thoughts?

PS: off-topic, but does anybody know if it's possible to chat with PS3 friends on Windows?

FelipeInside

- This isn't a System Wars post

- I've posted in the PC section for a reason

So I was at my local EB Games today. I went to exchange my XBOX360 for a PS3 since all my friends play FIFA12 on PS3.

I started talking to the guy there and he said we wouldn't see a PS4 until late 2014. The thing is he said, that right now the PS3 is only pushed to 70% from it's maximum performance. Most games, he said, don't push the PS3 past the 50% mark and some go to 60%-70%.

So I started wondering, could this be true?

Could games not push the hardware as hard as it would go? Same as most games don't push PC Hardware?

Is this why the graphics on PS3 are lower compared to PC?

Thoughts?

PS: off-topic, but does anybody know if it's possible to chat with PS3 friends on Windows?

FelipeInside

Since this guy is working retail we can safely assume he has no clue about what he is talking.

You can't just describe it like that, you can't just say the game is only using 70% of the power or something, that isn't how it works. You can have an absolutely terrible game that runs at an abysmal framerate and that game can have 100% usage, and you can have games that look great like Uncharted 2 that also use the hardware to the max. It depends on the efficiency of the code. Anyone who says something like what your EB guy said haven't the slightest idea what they are talking about.ferret-gamer

Even if it's true I don't think that PS3 at 100% performance can compete with the Wii-U or the 720, at least graphically. But who cares, we are PC gamers.