Consoles turning into PCs...???

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#1 FelipeInside
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http://games.on.net/article/13933/Battlefield_3_to_Ship_With_Optional_High-Res_Texture_Mode_on_Consoles

Not only this, but with the inclusion of Internet, Photos, Music and Movies....consoles are becoming more and more like PCs.

(yes, I know they will never replace PCs)

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#2 masterdrat
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Well from MS Press conference at E3, they want them to become the ultimate "multimedia" experience.
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#3 mitu123
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Man, they are always finding new ways.

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#4 ionusX
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yep thats it.. said it was going to happen and it happened consoles trying to step up their game against the toolable multifuctional pc.. and they will lose that game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRk_yH4nT4c

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#5 darkfox101
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Kinda of a joke really. Fanboys always showing off what a console can do when I'm like.. seriously? It's a dumbed down PC. Just get your current PC and upgrade it. Does 10x as much and cheaper.
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#6 laliberte11
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impossible, you have to remember whats in an xbox is 6 years old, you can only do so much with it

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#7 amphitheater
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So we can have a word processor now in consoles? i still think they should stop putting more and more for consoles because too much cooks will spoil the broth.
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#8 Ant0n89
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If they're going to cost as much as Mid-range PC, they better be upgradable, or there wont be no point in wasting money on it
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If they're going to cost as much as Mid-range PC, they better be upgradable, or there wont be no point in wasting money on itAnt0n89
What was the price of 360 and PS3 at release?
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#10 masterdrat
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yep thats it.. said it was going to happen and it happened consoles trying to step up their game against the toolable multifuctional pc.. and they will lose that game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRk_yH4nT4c

ionusX
Actually, they're more convenient than pcs, I got one on every tv I have here and they're really usefull. Did you watch some movies on this or buy a serie on them? They provide blue ray quality streaming. It's really amazing compared to the crappy HDTV I get from my provider which is so much compressed that I wonder if I would be better renting it on VHS. Also the zune interface makes it really easy to share and listen to videos or music from anywhere in my home.
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#11 ijumping
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The only time consoles will be like pc are when u can upgrade all the working parts of the console ohhh wait thats a pc =/
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The only time consoles will be like pc are when u can upgrade all the working parts of the console ohhh wait thats a pc =/ijumping
So ur saying it's a PC just cause u can upgrade all the parts inside..... please stop saying naive things like that.
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#13 ArchonOver
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Meh, consoles have always been a simplified PC that's focus was on gaming. I see nothing but bad things with it trying to become a full fledged PC.

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[QUOTE="Ant0n89"]If they're going to cost as much as Mid-range PC, they better be upgradable, or there wont be no point in wasting money on itmasterdrat
What was the price of 360 and PS3 at release?

For 360 it was 300 for stripped down and 400 for premium and for PS3 it was 500 for stripped down and 600 for premium.

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#15 Born_Lucky
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Consoles should be gaming machines, period.

They should have their own exclusives.

That's why the PS2 has sold 3x more than the PS3 ever will.

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#16 RobertBowen
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With a console you can simply 'consume' entertainment, but with a PC you can make your own entertainment (and a lot more besides).

Consoles are simply becoming modern-age 'media centres', like the music hi-fi systems of old, or TVs that came with built-in DVD players. Now you can get all these things in one device, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that as long as you still have a lot of choice, ie, you are not restricted by services only offering a narrow selection of content.

I don't see what all the fuss is about, really.

The only thing I would say is that if more games have to be installed on a console to get better 'quality' in the future - they seriously need to increase the hard drive capacity. On my PC, between my Steam folder and other non-Steam games I have installed at the moment, they take up approx. 250Gb.

They should be releasing consoles with 500Gb - 1 Tb drives if this is the way forward, especially if they increase the number of games/movies etc., available via their respective networks. Unless, of course, they all go down the 'streaming' route...oh joy.

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Well from MS Press conference at E3, they want them to become the ultimate "multimedia" experience.masterdrat
That's what Sony wants to do with the PS4 as well. They even went as far as to say the focus of the PS4 won't be its graphical power but its functionality as a multimedia machine.
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Can it do modding?

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[QUOTE="ijumping"]The only time consoles will be like pc are when u can upgrade all the working parts of the console ohhh wait thats a pc =/FelipeInside
So ur saying it's a PC just cause u can upgrade all the parts inside..... please stop saying naive things like that.

He didn't say that. Read his post again.
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Kinda of a joke really. Fanboys always showing off what a console can do when I'm like.. seriously? It's a dumbed down PC. Just get your current PC and upgrade it. Does 10x as much and cheaper.darkfox101

I always thought it was a joke that "PC gaming is cheaper," but after building my own PC for $800 and finding these amazing Steam, D2D, Gamersgate deals for $5 or less, in the long run PC gaming is so much cheaper. This summer I was excited about getting two brand new 360 games for $50.... man, I was ignorant. :(

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#21 koen57
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Well from MS Press conference at E3, they want them to become the ultimate "multimedia" experience.masterdrat
aka the PC :P.
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#22 mitu123
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Can it do modding?

Am_Confucius

Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3.

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#23 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="darkfox101"]Kinda of a joke really. Fanboys always showing off what a console can do when I'm like.. seriously? It's a dumbed down PC. Just get your current PC and upgrade it. Does 10x as much and cheaper.Cwagmire21

I always thought it was a joke that "PC gaming is cheaper," but after building my own PC for $800 and finding these amazing Steam, D2D, Gamersgate deals for $5 or less, in the long run PC gaming is so much cheaper. This summer I was excited about getting two brand new 360 games for $50.... man, I was ignorant. :(

At full retail price PC is at least as expensive as console gaming and that's without the amazing sales for recently released to just released games, PC might be a bigger first investment, but when you add the price of games it all levels out pretty fast.
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#24 Zubinen
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Consoles specialized for gaming, so at the time of release, of course they'll seem to perform pretty well for gaming, the benefit being that they'll still play the latest games 5-8 years down the road with minimal issues which is why it's such an attractive option for casual gamers. Console development hasn't gotten very serious until the past decade when a lot of R&D started going into it but I'd suspect the X720 and PS4 are going to be much more sophisticated than their predecessors since really the PS3 and X360 were the first attempt at "HD consoles" but I wouldn't expect console development to be really matured for another 2 generations or so, and by that time I'd expect that we'd have multi functional devices(in development) handling everything for us, telephone calls, internet, games, school work, professional programs, television, etc. I personally don't mind if the X720 and PS4 are particularly impressive for gaming due to being developer friendly, I'm not partial to any platform but the reason why I game on PC is because I've been buying at least 120 games per year on PC and being able to store all these games on cheap 3TB drives and being able to play any of them without having to pop in a disc is not only more convenient, but it actually saves me more money than the cost of buying 2 high-end computers versus buying the games used on consoles. Not only that, but there are some games that simply won't appear on consoles, perhaps never(at least not until we have a full integrated media machine that handles everything for us, but that's a different topic altogether) such as RTS, X4, simulators, MMO's, and free to play games. When I buy games for consoles it will generally be for exclusives like Uncharted, Gears of War, God of War, Infamous, Halo, Resistance, etc., but even if console versions were better than the PC version, I'd buy multiplatform games on PC since digital sales allow for much cheaper prices and the convenience of being able to download to any PC, and having access to the game forever digitally rather than having to keep discs in good condition.
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i doubt they will ever fully become pcs, consoles were made to give an alternative to building pcs and pc gaming.

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soon consoles will cost as much as a midrange PC (yet still perform a lot worse) and all the consolites will flood the forums complaining about price

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="ijumping"]The only time consoles will be like pc are when u can upgrade all the working parts of the console ohhh wait thats a pc =/Am_Confucius
So ur saying it's a PC just cause u can upgrade all the parts inside..... please stop saying naive things like that.

He didn't say that. Read his post again.

I read it again and that's what I understood from it. You can have a non-upgradeable PC too you know...
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Personally I think they are already there but obviously more restricted and closed down much like what a Terminal Server is designed for to provide a very basic setup.

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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] So ur saying it's a PC just cause u can upgrade all the parts inside..... please stop saying naive things like that.FelipeInside
He didn't say that. Read his post again.

I read it again and that's what I understood from it. You can have a non-upgradeable PC too you know...

That's exactly how I understood his post too.

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soon consoles will cost as much as a midrange PC (yet still perform a lot worse) and all the consolites will flood the forums complaining about price

wis3boi

:lol: this

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#32 James00715
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If cloud computing takes off, everything will be the same. You will just have a display device (a TV or monitor), control device (remote, gamepad, or M/KB), a small box containing a network card, and some basic configuration software (screen settings, network settings, etc.). You will be able to watch TV shows, play video games, surf the web, check email, and anything else a average person wants to do with just this basic setup. I still think you can build your own PC, but retailers will not longer sell PCs.

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#33 FelipeInside
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If cloud computing takes off, everything will be the same. You will just have a display device (a TV or monitor), control device (remote, gamepad, or M/KB), a small box containing a network card, and some basic configuration software (screen settings, network settings, etc.). You will be able to watch TV shows, play video games, surf the web, check email, and anything else a average person wants to do with just this basic setup. I still think you can build your own PC, but retailers will not longer sell PCs.

James00715
Yes, I am so afraid of cloud computing taking off. I don't mind it for some stuff....but PLEASE not let it take over. There's even the upcoming Windows AZURE.... (cloud Windows)
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The Final development of the console will be the PC. Maybe not next gen or the gen after but eventually they will be nothing but PC's.
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#35 true_gamer007
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If that's so, I want Red Dead and Uncharted on PC now!

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The Final development of the console will be the PC. Maybe not next gen or the gen after but eventually they will be nothing but PC's. ferrari2001

That would be a glorious time

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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="ijumping"]The only time consoles will be like pc are when u can upgrade all the working parts of the console ohhh wait thats a pc =/FelipeInside
So ur saying it's a PC just cause u can upgrade all the parts inside..... please stop saying naive things like that.

He didn't say it's a PC just 'cause you can upgrade the parts. He said that consoles needs to be able to do this as well if they want to be PCs.

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#38 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="ijumping"]The only time consoles will be like pc are when u can upgrade all the working parts of the console ohhh wait thats a pc =/Am_Confucius

So ur saying it's a PC just cause u can upgrade all the parts inside..... please stop saying naive things like that.

He didn't say it's a PC just 'cause you can upgrade the parts. He said that consoles needs to be able to do this as well if they want to be PCs.

Yes, but why? A PC doesn't mean it has upgradeable parts....does it? doesn't matter anyway, just a play on words....