Core i7-920 or Core i7-860?

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#1 CStheGreat
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I'm planning on building a new rig to replace my 5 year old custom AMD 3200+ clunker. I had everything planned out, including getting the Intel Core i7 920 for $199 at MicroCenter until I found out Intel is coming out with several new processors using a new 1156 socket, specifically, the Core i3, Core i5, and new "Lynnfield" Core i7's. Do you guys think I should wait to see how they perform or pull the trigger ont he Intel Core i7 920?

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#2 halokillerz
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my guess would be that 920 will perform better, but it never hurts to wait and see if u can wait til the new models come out

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#3 Lyron-Baktos
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my guess would be that 920 will perform better, but it never hurts to wait and see if u can wait til the new models come out

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Thats what I am thinking too, plus with a 920 build you will be using triple channel memory instead of dual channel, though not sure how much of a difference that will make.

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#4 millerlight89
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I would wait, though if you wait too long the 920 will be gone. They are making the lga 1366 socket will be for enthusiast. So if you want to upgrade from a 920 in the future you will have to put a big dent in the pocket, though lga 1366 will see th upcoming 6-core cpus, but I do not even want to think about the price on those.
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#5 kilerchese
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The LGA-1156 equivelant of the i7 920 performs just about the same as the i7 920 for $100 less($300 for i7 920)

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#6 CStheGreat
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The LGA-1156 equivelant of the i7 920 performs just about the same as the i7 920 for $100 less($300 for i7 920)

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That's my predicament. I can get the Core i7 920 for $199 at MicroCenter so essentially it would be the same price as the LGA 1156 equivalent.
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#7 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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The i7 920 will perform better than the 1156 series. Don't sweat it, otherwise Intel would have to deal with millions of angry customers.
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#8 kilerchese
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The 1156 boards are going to be cheaper though than X58 boards. Though most will probably be around the same price as the low end x58 boards.

For example, EVGA's P55 board. http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=634

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#9 CStheGreat
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Core i7 920 vs Core i7 860 Benchmark

http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=6202448

Interesting numbers. What do you guys make of all this?

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#10 linkin_guy109
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the new models that are coming out from intel are meant to be for affordable then the i7 series, thats my understanding atleast, go with the i7

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#11 imprezawrx500
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if you want cheap highend performance go with a phenom 2. They are much cheaper and not far off, and apparently the i3 is just a rebranded core 2. If you have the money go for the i7 but the i5 will probably be better value for similar performance.
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#12 strider_ATI
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You should get the i7 920.
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#13 CStheGreat
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I still can't make up my mind. The Core i7 920 is still an awesome price at MicroCenter but supposedly the Core i7 860 will provide the same performance and be cheaper in the long run (P55 mobos are cheaper than X58 ones).

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#14 aura_enchanted
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i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?

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#15 CStheGreat
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i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?

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Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.

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[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?

CStheGreat

Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.



That wouldn't make sense to discontinue the i7 9 series since the i7 8 series is lga-1156 and i7 9 series is lga-1366.

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#17 halokillerz
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[QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

i dont mean to hijack thread here but will the current i7's drop in price when the socket 1156's come on out to strut there stuff?

kilerchese

Naturally, that is the trend with all electronics prices. There are rumors that the Core i7 9XX will be discontinued when the Core i7 8XX series launches as the latter provides better performance at similar price points. I'm not sure whether the current Bloomfiled chips will drop in price, but it will be interesting to see pricing for the accompanying X58 motherboards. Socket 1366 is going to be more for workstations.



That wouldn't make sense to discontinue the i7 9 series since the i7 8 series is lga-1156 and i7 9 series is lga-1366.

its a rumor that the 920 and 940 will be discontinued while the higher end models will still remain.

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#18 kilerchese
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its a rumor that the 920 and 940 will be discontinued while the higher end models will still remain.

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The 940 has already been discontinued. Replaced by the 950. I think the 920 hasn't been discontinued yet because it is probably selling well.

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#19 Spoiledgenius
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Core i7-920 go for it

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#20 Luminouslight
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If you have a microcenter near you, go buy it! It's certainly worth the $200. Also the i7 has its advantages.

Why would anyone want a LGA-1366 system then? I believe there are three major advantages to the LGA-1366 platform for single-socket desktops:

1) Support for Gulftown. You can only get 6-cores from the LGA-1366 platform in 1H 2010, Intel currently doesn't have any 6-core LGA-1156 parts planned.

2) More overclockable CPUs. The best yielding Nehalems (and highest clocked Nehalems) will be LGA-1366 processors. I wouldn't expect any 1GHz+ overclocks from LGA-1156 CPUs.

3) More bandwidth to PCIe slots. I don't see this as a huge advantage today, but there may come a time when having as much bandwidth to your GPUs as possible is important. I'm thinking general purpose GPU computing, DX11, OpenCL sort of stuff. But we're not there yet.AnandTech Lynnfield Preview

Source:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570&p=11

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#21 Elemayo
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Just pick up a 920. Even if the new ones are more powerful, you can most likely overclock better with a nehalem.
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#22 CStheGreat
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Just pick up a 920. Even if the new ones are more powerful, you can most likely overclock better with a nehalem.Elemayo
You mean with a Bloomfield? Both 860 and 920 are part of the Nehalem microarchitecture. Plus, I've heard the Core i7 860 will OC higher because it runs cooler and uses less power. I wouldn't mind the added benefit of triple channel memory and extra PCI-E lanes that come with the 920. That and the fact that the processor and accompanying motherboards have matured (D0 revision, etc).
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#23 dblade999
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Instead of trying to tell you what you should do, I'll let you know what I'm doing :) I've chosen to wait because although sometimes I do OC, the majority of the time I run my PC's stock. Lower TDP and power consumption is attractive and along with being a single GPU user, the on-die controller seems to make allot of sense as well. Add in a revised turbo mode and Intel has nearly sealed the deal. I will still be weighing that against a 9xx series setup and all of its features, but I can't do that until they release.
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#24 CStheGreat
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Instead of trying to tell you what you should do, I'll let you know what I'm doing :) I've chosen to wait because although sometimes I do OC, the majority of the time I run my PC's stock. Lower TDP and power consumption is attractive and along with being a single GPU user, the on-die controller seems to make allot of sense as well. Add in a revised turbo mode and Intel has nearly sealed the deal. I will still be weighing that against a 9xx series setup and all of its features, but I can't do that until they release.dblade999
I'm definitely on the same page as you. I planned on OC'ing the rig I'm currently using and in my five years of owning it, I have never even attempted to do it. Either way, I broke down and bought a D0 Stepping Core i7 920 from MicroCenter because I just couldn't pass on the deal ($199). I haven't opened it yet though, still holding off on the 860 benchmarks. Here's to hoping the embargo on benchmarks end...
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#25 kemar7856
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get the 920 its the only one thats a decent price

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#26 covertgamer78
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I face the same predicament as you and I say go for the i7 920. It has a slower FSB speed,(or whatever it is called now), than the newer i3's and i5's but is has more features and is overall better than the newer ones come out. $199 at Micro Center is pretty sweet and the RAM and mobo isn't that much more expensive then you would pay for Core 2 or AMD 955 or 965 mobos.
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#27 dblade999
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I wouldn't pass up the microcenter deal either, but it's still an in-store pickup offer and they don't exactly have the same presence as your local wally world :P
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#28 Hekynn
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Go for a I7 870 their fast as the 920 or maybe a bit faster than the 920. Plus they might be cheaper when they go on sale.
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#29 covertgamer78
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Go for a I7 870 their fast as the 920 or maybe a bit faster than the 920. Plus they might be cheaper when they go on sale.Hekynn
i7 870 is $562 MSRP vs $199 - $279 for the i7 920 right now. If you live near Micro Center like I do in Houston, then go for the i7 920 IMO.
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#30 CStheGreat
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[QUOTE="Hekynn"]Go for a I7 870 their fast as the 920 or maybe a bit faster than the 920. Plus they might be cheaper when they go on sale.covertgamer78
i7 870 is $562 MSRP vs $199 - $279 for the i7 920 right now. If you live near Micro Center like I do in Houston, then go for the i7 920 IMO.

Yea, the equivalent would be the Core i7-860 which has an MSRP of $284. I saw benchmarks from a Chinese website and it owned the i7 920 when both were OC'd to 3.8Ghz (even though the 860 was using dual channel ram and the 920 was using tri channel). I'll wait till legitimate benches come out, I still like the Core i7 920 more. In any case, I hate the fact that Intel is doing this.

Link to the benchmarks:

http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=6202448

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#31 CStheGreat
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http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,694495/Intel-Core-i5-and-Core-i7-Lynnfield-CPUs-reviewed/Reviews/

Well, I'm glad I waited. Looks like the Core i7-860 is infact faster than the Core i7-920. Plus, it is priced at around $229 and the accompanying motherboards are also cheaper.

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#32 Emfanever
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I think i'll go for intel i7 860.

It's faster than 920 (default clock speed) and i'm not interested in OC. Furthermore, the turbo mode of 860 is much better.

tripple channel wont make a big difference in gaming and a single Gtx285 will be just fine

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#33 thandermax
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870 (code named lynnfield) and 920 (code named Bloomfield) are of different breed .

870 is more recent architecture, albet with few shortcomings . If you want latest virtualization features go for Lynnfield (vT-x & vT-d IO). But will be limited to 2.5GT/s (21.3 GB/s) bandwidth and dual channel RAM bandwidth(upto 1600 Mhz). PCI-e of 2 (8x8 ). 870 has 2.93MHz .

Where as 920 is old horse from Intel's stable , it has 4.5GT/s (~25.6 GB/s) and supports tripple channel RAM (limited to 1066 MHZ).PCI-e of 16x16. 920 has 2.66Mhz. 920 is more open to overclocking.

So both of them has pros and cons ... what you choose will depend on whats ur choice about bandwidth and CPU frequency.

Reference : http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/making-sense-of-lynnfield-is-bloomfield-really-better/

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#34 abuabed
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There isn't much difference once you overclock both to 4.00GHz really, LGA 1156 mobos are cheaper though. I have i7 860 OCed to 4.00GHz and ?I have yet to see an i7 920 at the same clock freq perform largely better than mine, it's usually the same with 1 or 2 FPS difference to favor either of them. At stock speeds 860 shows its edge but who wouldn't want to overclock them?
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#35 Iantheone
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Get the 920, they are really good, and can OC quite well
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#36 whitey_rolls
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LET IT DIE!!!!!!!

This thread is over a year old, why are you replying now.

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#37 abuabed
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LET IT DIE!!!!!!!

This thread is over a year old, why are you replying now.

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Damn! :x I wonder who's resurrecting those old threads.