Could this handle WoW?

My girlfriend is addicted to WoW. And ATM I have just one computer. She's always using my computer to "check in" :/ What I'm wanting to do is get a second system on the cheap.

This AMD MB+Sempron looks like a pretty good steal at $20 shipped. Especially since I already have a spare case, PSU, 2gigs of RAM and a GeForce6 for it.

Will this cut it, or am I going to need to get something in the 775, Pentium D range?

After reading the post I checked the date to see if a 4 year old post somehow made it to the top of the forum.tequilasunriser

:P sempron trolling i love it.. btw dudes check this out,, truly rotfl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EXkHKPqCj0

10/10

Would get trolled again.

In case he's actually not trolling my short answer would be yes, long answer would be no.

Last time I played WoW I was using an E 8400, 4 gigs of DDR 2 800 and a Nvidia 8800 GT and would only get about 30 fps in the city and drop to like 15 fps or even lower sometimes during raiding.

You can obviously drop down all the settings but the performance would be horrible.

:P sempron trolling i love it.. btw dudes check this out,, truly rotfl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EXkHKPqCj0

ionusX

As well recieved as this was I almost hate to spoil it, lol. I honestly have no idea what a "Sempron troll" is o_O

I'm just a cheap bastard :D

whitey_rolls, thanks for the serious answer. I'll go ahead and look for a Pentium D with an AGP slot. I know that will work, since the one month I tried playing it a few years ago worked just fine with the D.

In case he's actually not trolling my short answer would be yes, long answer would be no.

Last time I played WoW I was using an E 8400, 4 gigs of DDR 2 800 and a Nvidia 8800 GT and would only get about 30 fps in the city and drop to like 15 fps or even lower sometimes during raiding.

You can obviously drop down all the settings but the performance would be horrible.

whitey_rolls

[QUOTE="whitey_rolls"]

In case he's actually not trolling my short answer would be yes, long answer would be no.

Last time I played WoW I was using an E 8400, 4 gigs of DDR 2 800 and a Nvidia 8800 GT and would only get about 30 fps in the city and drop to like 15 fps or even lower sometimes during raiding.

You can obviously drop down all the settings but the performance would be horrible.

JohnF111

I always call BS on people who claim 60FPS all the time (especially in Dalaran.) Unless your running on low-mid settings, it doesn't seem possible. I have everything on ultra with a GTX 260, 4GB ram, and an AMD 965, playing at 2048x1152 res. I never get 60FPS anywhere anymore except for vanilla zones. I'm hoping Cataclysm will play better with more recent hardware. I know it doesn't look that great, but it's still all open world with a ton of stuff happening on screen. I'd really like to know exactly what DirectX11 features they put in it, since someone discovered an option for it during beta.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="whitey_rolls"]

In case he's actually not trolling my short answer would be yes, long answer would be no.

Last time I played WoW I was using an E 8400, 4 gigs of DDR 2 800 and a Nvidia 8800 GT and would only get about 30 fps in the city and drop to like 15 fps or even lower sometimes during raiding.

You can obviously drop down all the settings but the performance would be horrible.

ChubbyGuy40

I always call BS on people who claim 60FPS all the time (especially in Dalaran.) Unless your running on low-mid settings, it doesn't seem possible. I have everything on ultra with a GTX 260, 4GB ram, and an AMD 965, playing at 2048x1152 res. I never get 60FPS anywhere anymore except for vanilla zones. I'm hoping Cataclysm will play better with more recent hardware. I know it doesn't look that great, but it's still all open world with a ton of stuff happening on screen. I'd really like to know exactly what DirectX11 features they put in it, since someone discovered an option for it during beta.

amd phenom II 945 4 gigs of ram, dual 8800gt in SLI, and in Dalaran I get around 45, down to about 30 as a minimum.. (at 1680x1050)

So in no way, shape,or form is a a e8400 and a single 9600gt gonna max out Wow, at constant 60fps. (anywhere near the same resolution)

amd phenom II 945 4 gigs of ram, dual 8800gt in SLI, and in Dalaran I get around 45, down to about 30 as a minimum.. (at 1680x1050)

So in no way, shape,or form is a a e8400 and a single 9600gt gonna max out Wow, at constant 60fps. (anywhere near the same resolution)

Lach0121

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

amd phenom II 945 4 gigs of ram, dual 8800gt in SLI, and in Dalaran I get around 45, down to about 30 as a minimum.. (at 1680x1050)

So in no way, shape,or form is a a e8400 and a single 9600gt gonna max out Wow, at constant 60fps. (anywhere near the same resolution)

JohnF111

I understand full well what you are saying, I have a 8-12mb down connection and a 1-2mb up, my connection is not a problem, I have a 100mb NiC (even if it was 10mb) Its mobo connection (asus m3n ht) again not the problem. Wow doesn't even use a third of the connection anyway. The only way that would be problem is the wires in my network, which are in the process of being upgraded, but that is beside the point.

I understand that it will lag because the latency between the data on the server reaching all your hardware for processing, takes longer than a single player game, that is a given, Standing still does in fact yield better frames (most of the time) but still not to 60 in the busy parts of Dalaran, sorry. especially at 4x multisampling or higher, which I would expect stating maxing the game, and its in the in game options.

I am stating that If I were to buy say a real powerful I core 7 and have it at lets say 3.8-4ghz, with lets say a gtx480, The game will play better than the rig I currently have, SO HARDWARE IS A MAJOR POINT.

Though the Infrastructure of the ISPs around most of the globe, needs some serious overhauls to accommodate some of the problems, you just stated. Limits the bandwidth the game and its servers are allowed to run at anyway. (and especially for things like Onlive) but yea I think we understand one another.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

amd phenom II 945 4 gigs of ram, dual 8800gt in SLI, and in Dalaran I get around 45, down to about 30 as a minimum.. (at 1680x1050)

So in no way, shape,or form is a a e8400 and a single 9600gt gonna max out Wow, at constant 60fps. (anywhere near the same resolution)

Lach0121

I understand full well what you are saying, I have a 8-12mb down connection and a 1-2mb up, my connection is not a problem, I have a 100mb NiC (even if it was 10mb) Its mobo connection (asus m3n ht) again not the problem. Wow doesn't even use a third of the connection anyway. The only way that would be problem is the wires in my network, which are in the process of being upgraded, but that is beside the point.

I understand that it will lag because the latency between the data on the server reaching all your hardware for processing, takes longer than a single player game, that is a given, Standing still does in fact yield better frames (most of the time) but still not to 60 in the busy parts of Dalaran, sorry. especially at 4x multisampling or higher, which I would expect stating maxing the game, and its in the in game options.

I am stating that If I were to buy say a real powerful I core 7 and have it at lets say 3.8-4ghz, with lets say a gtx480, The game will play better than the rig I currently have, SO HARDWARE IS A MAJOR POINT.

Though the Infrastructure of the ISPs around most of the globe, needs some serious overhauls to accommodate some of the problems, you just stated. Limits the bandwidth the game and its servers are allowed to run at anyway. (and especially for things like Onlive) but yea I think we understand one another.

MMORPGs eat CPUs alive, you'd need a quad core to run it well in heavily populated situations (raids, pvp fight)

MMORPGs eat CPUs alive, you'd need a quad core to run it well in heavily populated situations (raids, pvp fight)

kaitanuvax

bah your claim makes me laugh :P

dual core's over 2.8ghz handle it VERY well.. do go calling 4 core without the benches to proove it..

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] 1440x900 for me :) And your system means nothing when running wow as its as previously said, server data being transferred... the game and graphics itself are simple as hell... Depends on your connection how laggy it is. I got 20mb broadband so i get all the laggy data fairly quickly, means i don't get as much lag... i can sit in wow with 60fps fairly easily, just if i run around a lot or hearthstone and use portals then obviously its gonna lag and drop my fps cos my NIC is trying to collect data and cant do **** before it has that data.... You see everyone's weapons and armour has to be downloaded from the servers, your internet connection depends on this to happen, all their armour, weapons, stats, abilites, talents, mounts, buffs and enchants are all stored on blizzard's servers and when you see a person(or 100) it all comes via the Network Interface Card, then your NIC sends this data to the GPU if it's an image to be rendered or your CPU if its data to displayed or executions to be carried out... Do you see where i'm headin with this? Without the data your cpu(or gpu) is basically waiting for it... which means you get lag and frame rate drops...

JohnF111

I understand full well what you are saying, I have a 8-12mb down connection and a 1-2mb up, my connection is not a problem, I have a 100mb NiC (even if it was 10mb) Its mobo connection (asus m3n ht) again not the problem. Wow doesn't even use a third of the connection anyway. The only way that would be problem is the wires in my network, which are in the process of being upgraded, but that is beside the point.

I understand that it will lag because the latency between the data on the server reaching all your hardware for processing, takes longer than a single player game, that is a given, Standing still does in fact yield better frames (most of the time) but still not to 60 in the busy parts of Dalaran, sorry. especially at 4x multisampling or higher, which I would expect stating maxing the game, and its in the in game options.

I am stating that If I were to buy say a real powerful I core 7 and have it at lets say 3.8-4ghz, with lets say a gtx480, The game will play better than the rig I currently have, SO HARDWARE IS A MAJOR POINT.

Though the Infrastructure of the ISPs around most of the globe, needs some serious overhauls to accommodate some of the problems, you just stated. Limits the bandwidth the game and its servers are allowed to run at anyway. (and especially for things like Onlive) but yea I think we understand one another.

This is true, Hell with my machine in Dalaran, I got 60fps a lot actually, but when I was in a busy part moving around, looking in certain directions it would dip down to 30-35fps, (which is why I said my average fps in Dalaran was 45fps, just as a guess because its right at half way lol)

No one thing that could improve online gaming as a whole, would be completely upgrade the Networking Infrastructure these ISPs are running on. Like I stated before, because even if you have an off the chain NIC card, its still held back by the ISP and can't work to its full potential.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]

I understand full well what you are saying, I have a 8-12mb down connection and a 1-2mb up, my connection is not a problem, I have a 100mb NiC (even if it was 10mb) Its mobo connection (asus m3n ht) again not the problem. Wow doesn't even use a third of the connection anyway. The only way that would be problem is the wires in my network, which are in the process of being upgraded, but that is beside the point.

I understand that it will lag because the latency between the data on the server reaching all your hardware for processing, takes longer than a single player game, that is a given, Standing still does in fact yield better frames (most of the time) but still not to 60 in the busy parts of Dalaran, sorry. especially at 4x multisampling or higher, which I would expect stating maxing the game, and its in the in game options.

I am stating that If I were to buy say a real powerful I core 7 and have it at lets say 3.8-4ghz, with lets say a gtx480, The game will play better than the rig I currently have, SO HARDWARE IS A MAJOR POINT.

Though the Infrastructure of the ISPs around most of the globe, needs some serious overhauls to accommodate some of the problems, you just stated. Limits the bandwidth the game and its servers are allowed to run at anyway. (and especially for things like Onlive) but yea I think we understand one another.

Lach0121

This is true, Hell with my machine in Dalaran, I got 60fps a lot actually, but when I was in a busy part moving around, looking in certain directions it would dip down to 30-35fps, (which is why I said my average fps in Dalaran was 45fps, just as a guess because its right at half way lol)

No one thing that could improve online gaming as a whole, would be completely upgrade the Networking Infrastructure these ISPs are running on. Like I stated before, because even if you have an off the chain NIC card, its still held back by the ISP and can't work to its full potential.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

amd phenom II 945 4 gigs of ram, dual 8800gt in SLI, and in Dalaran I get around 45, down to about 30 as a minimum.. (at 1680x1050)

So in no way, shape,or form is a a e8400 and a single 9600gt gonna max out Wow, at constant 60fps. (anywhere near the same resolution)

JohnF111

I've played WoW on ATT DSL and Comcast cable. Very minor differences. I play it on Ultra at a very high resolution. I've tried dropping it down to 1080p or even 720p and the differences are also minor. I've just accepted the fact that WoW's engine only goes so far with taking advantage of more-powerful hardware. It's old and outdated and very rarely is it updated. That's why I'm hoping Cataclysm plays better since it is the only expansion with a real overhaul and redesign, and I'll have a DX11 card to take advantage of whatever effects they decide to put in.

[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]

MMORPGs eat CPUs alive, you'd need a quad core to run it well in heavily populated situations (raids, pvp fight)

ionusX

bah your claim makes me laugh :P

dual core's over 2.8ghz handle it VERY well.. do go calling 4 core without the benches to proove it..

You've just contradicted everybody else in this topic by saying dual cores handle it very well.

But, after doing a little researching, I've found that quad cores don't help WoW at all since it isn't optimized to use it. So in the end, you WoWers are screwed...

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]

MMORPGs eat CPUs alive, you'd need a quad core to run it well in heavily populated situations (raids, pvp fight)

kaitanuvax

bah your claim makes me laugh :P

dual core's over 2.8ghz handle it VERY well.. do go calling 4 core without the benches to proove it..

You've just contradicted everybody else in this topic by saying dual cores handle it very well.

But, after doing a little researching, I've found that quad cores don't help WoW at all since it isn't optimized to use it. So in the end, you WoWers are screwed...

you can add in quad core support yourself, the same way you can add in dx11 support yourself.

ive played WoW with a 2 core and raided before at highest settings (force aa and af via CCC).. with my 5830 before.. and if it wasnt for the requirement of spending money to reopen my elemental shaman again i WOULD HAPPILY go and do it again to show you what kind of preformance i get in high requirement area's..

this would also require me digging my core 2 duo e7400 2.8ghz out of its box and replacing my cpu.. neither of which im willing to do to proove a point..

i was doing toc-25 man with 65+ fps (no overclock) in toc 25 man maxed out (aa x16, af x8 ) at 1440 x 900 (my 19")and then again at 720p (my 32")

and it rarely dipped below 45.

the only time i ever had to turn my settings down was at the opening of icc day where everyone and their cousin was in one place.. an entire server of people will drive anyone's system under...

good thing this rarely ever happen.

and i do mean EVERYONE was there..

ive played WoW with a 2 core and raided before at highest settings (force aa and af via CCC).. with my 5830 before.. and if it wasnt for the requirement of spending money to reopen my elemental shaman again i WOULD HAPPILY go and do it again to show you what kind of preformance i get in high requirement area's..

this would also require me digging my core 2 duo e7400 2.8ghz out of its box and replacing my cpu.. neither of which im willing to do to proove a point..

i was doing toc-25 man with 65+ fps (no overclock) in toc 25 man maxed out (aa x16, af x8 ) at 1440 x 900 (my 19")and then again at 720p (my 32")

and it rarely dipped below 45.

the only time i ever had to turn my settings down was at the opening of icc day where everyone and their cousin was in one place.. an entire server of people will drive anyone's system under...

good thing this rarely ever happen.

and i do mean EVERYONE was there..

ionusX

I have a feeling all of the people who are claiming "hurr hurr can't be done" are running systems that have over 9000 things running in the backround, full of keyloggers and spyware and addware.

I have an athlon 64 II 240 and a radeon hd 4650 and it runs in dalaran at about 40 fps and that is an awful setup.

I used to play wow with a sempron 2700+, 1gig pc 2700 and a radeon 9600 pro.

Wow is not that demanding.

WoW runs perfectly fine for the most part with my E8400 and Nvidia 8800GT but as it's been said you can't max the game out which I"m fine with.

But with the original posters rig he's looking at he won't be able to raid. In fights like Sartharion with all the whelps and lava waves he'd DC for sure (at least on 25 man) ...

WoW runs perfectly fine for the most part with my E8400 and Nvidia 8800GT but as it's been said you can't max the game out which I"m fine with.

But with the original posters rig he's looking at he won't be able to raid. In fights like Sartharion with all the whelps and lava waves he'd DC for sure (at least on 25 man) ...

whitey_rolls

The sartharion fight is less than 60 seconds now.

My girlfriend is addicted to WoW. And ATM I have just one computer. She's always using my computer to "check in" :/ What I'm wanting to do is get a second system on the cheap.

This AMD MB+Sempron looks like a pretty good steal at $20 shipped. Especially since I already have a spare case, PSU, 2gigs of RAM and a GeForce6 for it.

Will this cut it, or am I going to need to get something in the 775, Pentium D range?

WindWalkerX

That could work because you have a 2Gb RAM and a GeForce 6 in it. That two is enough for WoW to work properly on your pc...;)