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#1 thesmiter
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I look at the Steam players online from time to time, and very often I see that Counter Strike has more players than Counter Strike Source. Is there a reason for this? I am considering purchasing the Orange Box and CS:S (I don't want the Valve Package, I don't play enough to get through all those games). Should I skip CS:S and go with the original?

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#2 Morello964
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I wouldn't try to play CS 1.6 because of the skill level of everyone is bewildering to a new player. Even playing source as a brand new player will be infuriating. They could have 10/100 hp and you probably still wouldn't kill a good player due to reflexes and crosshair readiness. With CS: GO so soon it might not be worth it to learn. Definitely source over 1.6 though for new players.

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#3 SKaREO
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No offense, but if you don't know the distinct difference between 1.6 and source then you should probably just go back to playing Halo.
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#4 thesmiter
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No offense, but if you don't know the distinct difference between 1.6 and source then you should probably just go back to playing Halo.SKaREO

Thank you for that snide, useless remark. One is on the source engine and the other is the oringinal Half-Life engine, correct? Or is there some other obscure, idiotic difference that your adolescent mind believes to be imporant?

Also, my question was clearly stated in the opening post. Is there a reason for the higher player count on CS than CS:S? Is there something significant about CS that brings more people to it than CS:S?

As to the other poster, I just played some CS (I had it from quite a while ago, but never got into it). It may have been a run of luck with bad players, but I was able to roughly break even, and then got into a death match game and did quite well. It was irritating, though, that in many of the games, it required me to download the server's music and other things that I really don't care for. Is Source like this?

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#5 Starshine_M2A2
Member since 2006 • 5593 Posts

Lost Source when it wasn't included in The Orange Box. Otherwise, Counter-Strike games appear to be the same as one another so I'll stick with the original which I never play anyway. Although GO looks to be adding some interesting new ideas.

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#6 Cloud567kar
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CS 1.6 is where a lot more of the pros play, but CSS is just as good.

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#7 thesmiter
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Thank you for the answers. So it appears that many people just play the old version because it came first, and they are virtually identical? Interesting. I may just hold off on the new one and get the Orange Box alone. Thanks.

Oh, and I am aware that the Orange Box doesn't come with CS:S. I was stating that I was going to purchase both.

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#8 QQabitmoar
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I can't describe it, but 1.6 just 'feels' better. Also some movement is different.

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#9 SaviorXavi3r
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No offense, but if you don't know the distinct difference between 1.6 and source then you should probably just go back to playing Halo.SKaREO
elitist PC players make me want to puke. The differences are subtle if you arent accustomed to playing. And I would imagine he was more asking because of 1.6 being older. That being said, to many people vastly over estimate its difficulty and thats true for 1.6 and Source. Are you going to go in a stomp people, no. But its really not as hard as many make it out to be.
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#10 jakes456
Member since 2011 • 1398 Posts

Source is for noobs.

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#11 thesmiter
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Source is for noobs.

jakes456
Why is this?
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#12 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

Source is for noobs.

thesmiter
Why is this?

Because on Source people have fun, on 1.6 you only have grumpy elitists and they despise people having fun.
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#13 SovietsUnited
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From what I heard both games have different hitboxes. I'd recommend getting CS 1.6, it simply feels better and I think it has a better pro scene.

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#14 giovannimcc
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Get cs go instead it comes out soon enough. I've got the beta and it seems very similiar to source. I've had fun with css but I am getting bored of it, So many servers with so little choice in maps. How can people still find dust 2 fun. They should make the maps more like desert_atorcity.

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#15 Brean24
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CS: Source has better graphics, and is better overall. People just don't like change.
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#16 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

Source is for noobs.

thesmiter

Why is this?

I haven't played CS in any significant amount since 1.6 was the new one (yeah, a long time). I played Source just a little bit when it first came out, but I don't really do much competitive shooters these days, so I didn't stick with it. What I've heard is that, besides the new graphics engine, Source also changed some things with movement, and how the guns handle, and the hitboxes, so, if you were a veteran CS player before Source, it feels a little weird. So, there's a huge community of purists who won't play source. As with any competitive game, there's a large range of skill levels of all the players, but it seems that the best of the best on 1.6, are insanely good. Beyond pro status. Source surely has a competitive community of great players, as well, but a lot of the real world class tournament players are still playing 1.6.

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#17 ArchDemon123
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[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="jakes456"]

Source is for noobs.

DanielDust
Why is this?

Because on Source people have fun, on 1.6 you only have grumpy elitists and they despise people having fun.

Pretty much this
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#18 jakes456
Member since 2011 • 1398 Posts

CS: Source has better graphics, but is worse overall.Brean24

fixed.

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#19 JigglyWiggly_
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it's the same damn game
anyone who says it isn't is wrong
i can just go from CSS and play CS. Sure the shooting mechanics are a teeny bit different but it's the same game exccept you can shoot through EVERYTHING.

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#20 jakes456
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it's the same damn game
anyone who says it isn't is wrong
i can just go from CSS and play CS. Sure the shooting mechanics are a teeny bit different but it's the same game exccept you can shoot through EVERYTHING.

JigglyWiggly_

stick to Quake you know nothing about CS.

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#21 FPSfan1985
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Source has less random sprays. Making it easier. Thats the only difference. I still play both alot. You get alot more random HS in source.
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#22 ArchDemon123
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

it's the same damn game
anyone who says it isn't is wrong
i can just go from CSS and play CS. Sure the shooting mechanics are a teeny bit different but it's the same game exccept you can shoot through EVERYTHING.

jakes456

stick to Quake you know nothing about CS.

oh, wait guys, it's just another stupid troll
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#23 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

it's the same damn game
anyone who says it isn't is wrong
i can just go from CSS and play CS. Sure the shooting mechanics are a teeny bit different but it's the same game exccept you can shoot through EVERYTHING.

jakes456

stick to Quake you know nothing about CS.

uh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hogYKeZFzpw
i can 1v1 any of you


the only different is that he was pgud

so wit u gaiz i cud prolly just be like fatal1ty and play 1 handed

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i've seen more bickering over 1.6 vs. source this year than bf3 vs. mw3. there's a difference between them, but not a drastic one.
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#25 jakes456
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

it's the same damn game
anyone who says it isn't is wrong
i can just go from CSS and play CS. Sure the shooting mechanics are a teeny bit different but it's the same game exccept you can shoot through EVERYTHING.

JigglyWiggly_

stick to Quake you know nothing about CS.

uh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hogYKeZFzpw
i can 1v1 any of you


the only different is that he was pgud

so wit u gaiz i cud prolly just be like fatal1ty and play 1 handed

This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.Sorry about that.also why would I be impressed from some video of gamespot source lover?
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#26 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="jakes456"]

stick to Quake you know nothing about CS.

jakes456

uh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hogYKeZFzpw
i can 1v1 any of you


the only different is that he was pgud

so wit u gaiz i cud prolly just be like fatal1ty and play 1 handed

This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.Sorry about that.also why would I be impressed from some video of gamespot source lover?

because if it was CS it wouldn't make ANY differencehttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/46294175/css/Gamespot%20css%201v1%20%28Jigglywiggly%20vs%20KHAndAnime%29.mp4 try firefox to stream it i'd use my server except it's exploding atm

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#27 jakes456
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

uh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hogYKeZFzpw
i can 1v1 any of you


the only different is that he was pgud

so wit u gaiz i cud prolly just be like fatal1ty and play 1 handed

JigglyWiggly_

This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.Sorry about that.also why would I be impressed from some video of gamespot source lover?

because if it was CS it wouldn't make ANY difference my aim is just better https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46294175/css/Gamespot%20css%201v1%20%28Jigglywiggly%20vs%20KHAndAnime%29.mp4 try firefox to stream it i'd use my server except it's exploding atm

nothing impressive about that video. Source spraying and playing against an awful player. lol at aim map.

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#28 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="jakes456"]

This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.Sorry about that.also why would I be impressed from some video of gamespot source lover?jakes456

because if it was CS it wouldn't make ANY difference my aim is just better https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46294175/css/Gamespot%20css%201v1%20%28Jigglywiggly%20vs%20KHAndAnime%29.mp4 try firefox to stream it i'd use my server except it's exploding atm

nothing impressive about that video. Source spraying and playing against an awful player. lol at aim map.

so what do you want campfest in office?
i didn't spray in le beggining(and lol at assuming CS 1.6 is not a sprayfest)
and i am sure he could beat you

my aim was perfect
what do you want, the server did have poop reg

if i do a 1v1 again i will host the server this time

100tick, cl_cmdrate 80, and cl_cmdupdate 80 forced fps at like 10000 or w/e

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#29 jakes456
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] because if it was CS it wouldn't make ANY difference my aim is just better https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46294175/css/Gamespot%20css%201v1%20%28Jigglywiggly%20vs%20KHAndAnime%29.mp4 try firefox to stream it i'd use my server except it's exploding atmJigglyWiggly_

nothing impressive about that video. Source spraying and playing against an awful player. lol at aim map.

so what do you want campfest in office?
i didn't spray in le beggining(and lol at assuming CS 1.6 is not a sprayfest)
and i am sure he could beat you

my aim was perfect
what do you want, the server did have poop reg

if i do a 1v1 again i will host the server this time

100tick, cl_cmdrate 80, and cl_cmdupdate 80 forced fps at like 10000 or w/e

your aim was perfect yet you missed an easy awp shot and he sprayed you with the aug.

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#30 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="jakes456"]

nothing impressive about that video. Source spraying and playing against an awful player. lol at aim map.

jakes456

so what do you want campfest in office?
i didn't spray in le beggining(and lol at assuming CS 1.6 is not a sprayfest)
and i am sure he could beat you

my aim was perfect
what do you want, the server did have poop reg

if i do a 1v1 again i will host the server this time

100tick, cl_cmdrate 80, and cl_cmdupdate 80 forced fps at like 10000 or w/e

your aim was perfect yet you missed an easy awp shot and he sprayed you with the aug.

it was the reg

as a guy with 57% rail

i dun miss awp shots the others are just thruz obviously

if you guys dun believe me it's herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hogYKeZFzpw#t=7m10s

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#31 jakes456
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

so what do you want campfest in office?
i didn't spray in le beggining(and lol at assuming CS 1.6 is not a sprayfest)
and i am sure he could beat you

my aim was perfect
what do you want, the server did have poop reg

if i do a 1v1 again i will host the server this time

100tick, cl_cmdrate 80, and cl_cmdupdate 80 forced fps at like 10000 or w/e

JigglyWiggly_

your aim was perfect yet you missed an easy awp shot and he sprayed you with the aug.

it was the reg

as a guy with 57% rail

i dun miss awp shots the others are just thruz obviously

if you guys dun believe me it's at 7:10ish

bad player vs an even worse player. I will leave it at that.

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#32 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="jakes456"]

your aim was perfect yet you missed an easy awp shot and he sprayed you with the aug.

jakes456

it was the reg

as a guy with 57% rail

i dun miss awp shots the others are just thruz obviously

if you guys dun believe me it's at 7:10ish

bad player vs an even worse player. I will leave it at that.

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