Counterstrike - 1.6 vs Source

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#1 v13_KiiLtz
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I'm a Source player, but I play because I'm a graphics whore, and also I've gotten too accustomed to the Source engine. What's bugged me though, is that i've heard a couple of people say 1.6 requires more skill than Source. On the contrary, while playing online I've seen people using the "getting use to the transition from 1.6 to Source" excuse to explain their bad score. Now, I sort of just adapt/compromise/"learn as you go" when I'm playing games (i also play cod and vegas 2 for example), and i'm generally good at playing any FPS online so its hard for me to tell the difference in competition and skill level. Is there a general concensus on which is better or is the arguement still debatable?
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#2 JigglyWiggly_
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1.6 is pretty differnet, I am much better at source. My favorite weapon is the tactical shield, but unfortunately it is blocked my 99% of servers. Why is it my favorite? IT ANOOYS EVERYONE. Oh and, there are less random headshots, and you are generally less accurate in 1.6
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#3 kdawg88
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The difference between games is only marginal and I question those who say that 1.6 is much better because it supposedly requires more skill. I think it is just a matter of personal taste. I prefer source for the looks, but of course that doesn't mean a heck of a lot when you get into serious playing.

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#4 JN_Fenrir
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The general consensus is that the Counter-Strike community is full of whiners, griefers, and ragers. Believe me, they'll find a reason to gripe and insult each other over anything. 1.6 players think that Source players all have inferior skills. Source players think that 1.6 players are all hackers. Anytime somebody dies in Counter-Strike, it's because of lag, or the game glitched, or the other person is cheating or using "noob tactics". Seriously, the community is full of immature brats who seem to like having a bad time better than having a good one.

In other words, don't listen to their opinion, just stick with your own.

My opinion is that both Source and 1.6 are great games, and whatever game somebody likes better is the one they should play. For me personally though, that would be Source, as playing the game on the new engine feels better and more solid to me, and games seem to flow smoother overall (although I have no scientific evidence to support that theory, it's just a feeling I get). The so-called "required skill" is the same.

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#5 Xeros606
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They are largely the same, CS: S is just more "refined" than 1.6 (smoother gameplay, better graphics, etc.).

The general consensus is that the Counter-Strike community is full of whiners, griefers, and ragers . . . Anytime somebody dies in Counter-Strike, it's because of lag, or the game glitched, or the other person is cheating or using "noob tactics". Seriously, the community is full of immature brats who seem to like having a bad time better than having a good one.

JN_Fenrir

lol this sounds like the whole XBL community at large...

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#6 mattpunkgd
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I've only played source, but I don't doubt doubt that 1.6 is just as good (or better, but I don't know). About the community being bad, it's about 75-90% true, but there are some people/ servers that are cool.
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#7 JigglyWiggly_
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The general consensus is that the Counter-Strike community is full of whiners, griefers, and ragers. Believe me, they'll find a reason to gripe and insult each other over anything. 1.6 players think that Source players all have inferior skills. Source players think that 1.6 players are all hackers. Anytime somebody dies in Counter-Strike, it's because of lag, or the game glitched, or the other person is cheating or using "noob tactics". Seriously, the community is full of immature brats who seem to like having a bad time better than having a good one.

In other words, don't listen to their opinion, just stick with your own.

My opinion is that both Source and 1.6 are great games, and whatever game somebody likes better is the one they should play. For me personally though, that would be Source, as playing the game on the new engine feels better and more solid to me, and games seem to flow smoother overall (although I have no scientific evidence to support that theory, it's just a feeling I get). The so-called "required skill" is the same.

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NO REG NO REG NO REG SERVER SUCKS
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The general consensus is that the Counter-Strike community is full of whiners, griefers, and ragers. Believe me, they'll find a reason to gripe and insult each other over anything. 1.6 players think that Source players all have inferior skills. Source players think that 1.6 players are all hackers. Anytime somebody dies in Counter-Strike, it's because of lag, or the game glitched, or the other person is cheating or using "noob tactics". Seriously, the community is full of immature brats who seem to like having a bad time better than having a good one.

JN_Fenrir

I don't see why the CS community gets such a bad wrap, certainly the hardcore players can be hard bunch to please but same goes with every game in existence.

Most of the players I run into in CS seem to be older and a lot more relaxed than your average CoD player who rages when they get killed by a tube or whatever.

Sounds like you just need to find a better server.

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#9 GummiRaccoon
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I liked 1.6 better, I haven't play CS:S or 1.6 in a good long while, but I remember when CS:S came out, players hit boxes would actually lead your character so people could kill you before you finished turning the corner and that crap got old REALLY quick.

All in all both games were fun, and you really need a better server.

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#10 v13_KiiLtz
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[QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]

The general consensus is that the Counter-Strike community is full of whiners, griefers, and ragers. Believe me, they'll find a reason to gripe and insult each other over anything. 1.6 players think that Source players all have inferior skills. Source players think that 1.6 players are all hackers. Anytime somebody dies in Counter-Strike, it's because of lag, or the game glitched, or the other person is cheating or using "noob tactics". Seriously, the community is full of immature brats who seem to like having a bad time better than having a good one.

I don't see why the CS community gets such a bad wrap, certainly the hardcore players can be hard bunch to please but same goes with every game in existence.

Most of the players I run into in CS seem to be older and a lot more relaxed than your average CoD player who rages when they get killed by a tube or whatever.

Sounds like you just need to find a better server.

Sounds like he's had a numerous amount of confrontations with the CS community. That said, you're both right; while there are few "older and relaxed" players, they're greatly outnumbered by ***** lol, and this is coming from a person who primarily plays CS. I'd definately say they are the worst ragers online. Everyone hates everyone, Little kids, older people, girls, guys that sound like girls, noobs and even people that are good. Just last night, someone told a girl to hang herself o.O However, like you said (or implied), find a better server (which i did) and the chances of encountering the hate/rage will decrease.
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#11 JigglyWiggly_
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Are you guys crazy? CSS has one of the best communities ever. I just say racist terms, and swear words, and then they come up with their own funny versions.
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#12 GummiRaccoon
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Are you guys crazy? CSS has one of the best communities ever. I just say racist terms, and swear words, and then they come up with their own funny versions.JigglyWiggly_

Ya, if you can find a way to turn their hatred in on themselves it's ok. Just go in with a thick skin, much like a website that you dont ahve to log in to post.

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sourceeeee

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#14 Vesica_Prime
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I think 1.6 is better. The hit detection is far better than Counter-Strike: Source before and after the update.

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#15 JN_Fenrir
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Sounds like you just need to find a better server.

the_mitch28
Nah, the kiddies don't bother me much. I'm a pretty casual CS player these days anyway. And I've definitely met plenty of cool folks out there too, but I've also definitely run into heaps of obnoxious idiots over all my years of CS. I haven't played in a while though. Maybe a lot of these people have finally migrated over to other games. Or finished puberty. :lol:
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#16 coreybg
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Hard to say, despite being the same game they both play very differently.

What I didn't like about 1.6 is that bullets go through pretty much anything.

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#17 the_mitch28
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[QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

Sounds like you just need to find a better server.

JN_Fenrir

Nah, the kiddies don't bother me much. I'm a pretty casual CS player these days anyway. And I've definitely met plenty of cool folks out there too, but I've also definitely run into heaps of obnoxious idiots over all my years of CS. I haven't played in a while though. Maybe a lot of these people have finally migrated over to other games. Or finished puberty. :lol:

Ah fair enough then.

I should mention all my experience in CSS has been on Australian servers so I don't know what it's like in other countries. Plus all the kiddies seem to be kept in check by the jailbreak servers, they're pretty much like those fluorescent bug zapper things for CS.

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#18 1q3er5
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1.6 is better overall. K ya source has nice graphics....thats it. The flashbang is stupid in source, it totaly paralyzes you where in 1.6 if you HAVE SOME SKILL and speed you can quickly turn around to avoid the flash and only be partially blinded.

The sound in 1.6 is fuller in my opinion, the weapons in source sound so weak, they should have just copied all the sounds over from 1.6

In 1.6 you can still manage to do some bunny hopping in source its even more difficult. Personally 1.3 was the best because back then you could bunny hop to you delight and it made the game more ATHLETIC as in it was harder to hit people and easier avoid being hit because you could jump around and to more tricks to avoid enemies. Is it me or does source seem even slower than 1.6 i mean the running speed of the player. I believe in 1.0 the walking speed was as fast as running which was great.

Source has slowed everything down. I am a " run and gun " type of player and in 1.6 you can still lead a rush from spawn avoid some flashes and still make a direct attack instead of camping ( in pubs) or even matches for that matter. In source with the flash bang and restrictive jumping, they just slowed the game down even more, its ridiculous.

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#19 ionusX
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source is a pretty strong game and 1.6 is responsible for that.. thing that the xbox got so i have to knock it for that much, i like many of the maps of 1.6 but at the same time prefer the game mechanics of source. they may not be better but i prefer them. i also prefer css for the fact that there are less idiots with free copies, hacks and exploits which can get on my nerves sooo much (me hate illegal copies of games and torrents in general)

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#20 GeryGo  Moderator
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i've heard a couple of people say 1.6 requires more skill than Sourcev13_KiiLtz
not true, both games are different because of the engine, changed alot of tactics - in 1.6 bullet spread is inaccurate unlike Source
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#21 gameofthering
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1.6 is better overall. K ya source has nice graphics....thats it. The flashbang is stupid in source, it totaly paralyzes you where in 1.6 if you HAVE SOME SKILL and speed you can quickly turn around to avoid the flash and only be partially blinded.

The sound in 1.6 is fuller in my opinion, the weapons in source sound so weak, they should have just copied all the sounds over from 1.6

In 1.6 you can still manage to do some bunny hopping in source its even more difficult. Personally 1.3 was the best because back then you could bunny hop to you delight and it made the game more ATHLETIC as in it was harder to hit people and easier avoid being hit because you could jump around and to more tricks to avoid enemies. Is it me or does source seem even slower than 1.6 i mean the running speed of the player. I believe in 1.0 the walking speed was as fast as running which was great.

Source has slowed everything down. I am a " run and gun " type of player and in 1.6 you can still lead a rush from spawn avoid some flashes and still make a direct attack instead of camping ( in pubs) or even matches for that matter. In source with the flash bang and restrictive jumping, they just slowed the game down even more, its ridiculous.

1q3er5

You can do that in source also.