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#1 TugboatTheGreat
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Well, heres the deal. I can either get an AMD 64 X2 5200+ and a X1950XT. Or I can get an Intel E4400 and either a 7900GS KO or an X1950PRO. I can't decide what to get. I feel that if I go for the Intel/Nvidia combo I'll be more future proof. I want the computer to last until next summer when I'll be able to upgrade again. Thanks for the help guys! :)
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#2 skinnypete91
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Go for Intel/Ati.

If you get a decent P35 motherboard, next summer you can get a quad or whatever...

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#3 Master_Kev
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AMD 64 X2 5200+ and a X1950XT. Much better IMO.

Edit

Forgot about the bottom part of the question. Well if you are planning to upgrade later than go intel.

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#4 TugboatTheGreat
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Ok, so I've decided on the E4400 and the X1950PRO. I'm going to want to overclock the E4400 to around 3GHz. Is this possible with the stock HS/f? Or will it overheat? And will the X1950PRO and the E4400 be a good combination in games? Thanks! :)
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#5 IAM-CA
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Lots of people hit 3GHz on stock cooling... If it runs too hot, you can always add something like this for $20:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/17225/FREEZER-7-PRO/Arctic%20Cooling/
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#6 AARONRULZ1
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Yeah 3GHz is acheviable with stock cooling,but if at all possible get a X1950XT,you won't regret it.

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#7 IAM-CA
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Are you buying locally or online? What prices are you looking at? Maybe we can help find a deal for you. As AARONRULZ1 says, the X1950XT is better if it's not too much extra.
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#8 TugboatTheGreat
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Are you buying locally or online? What prices are you looking at? Maybe we can help find a deal for you. As AARONRULZ1 says, the X1950XT is better if it's not too much extra.IAM-CA

I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

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#9 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="IAM-CA"]Are you buying locally or online? What prices are you looking at? Maybe we can help find a deal for you. As AARONRULZ1 says, the X1950XT is better if it's not too much extra.TugboatTheGreat

I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

Then get a X2 3600,a BIOSTAR TF560A2+ and OC it to 3GHz,anandtech managed to do that,so you'll be able to afford the X1950XT.
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#10 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="IAM-CA"]Are you buying locally or online? What prices are you looking at? Maybe we can help find a deal for you. As AARONRULZ1 says, the X1950XT is better if it's not too much extra.AARONRULZ1

I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

Then get a X2 3600,a BIOSTAR TF560A2+ and OC it to 3GHz,anandtech managed to do that,so you'll be able to afford the X1950XT.

Or should I get the X2 5200+ and the X1950XT instead of the E4400 and X1950PRO?

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#11 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="IAM-CA"]Are you buying locally or online? What prices are you looking at? Maybe we can help find a deal for you. As AARONRULZ1 says, the X1950XT is better if it's not too much extra.TugboatTheGreat

I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

Then get a X2 3600,a BIOSTAR TF560A2+ and OC it to 3GHz,anandtech managed to do that,so you'll be able to afford the X1950XT.

Or should I get the X2 5200+ and the X1950XT instead of the E4400 and X1950PRO?

If those are your only options,i'd go with the X2 5200+X1950XT over the E4400+X1950PRO.
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#12 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="IAM-CA"]Are you buying locally or online? What prices are you looking at? Maybe we can help find a deal for you. As AARONRULZ1 says, the X1950XT is better if it's not too much extra.AARONRULZ1

I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

Then get a X2 3600,a BIOSTAR TF560A2+ and OC it to 3GHz,anandtech managed to do that,so you'll be able to afford the X1950XT.

Or should I get the X2 5200+ and the X1950XT instead of the E4400 and X1950PRO?

If those are your only options,i'd go with the X2 5200+X1950XT over the E4400+X1950PRO.

So that would be the best option?

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#13 AARONRULZ1
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I'm gonna end the quote stacking,but yes thats the best option.
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#14 TugboatTheGreat
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I'm gonna end the quote stacking,but yes thats the best option.AARONRULZ1

Ok thanks a lot. And btw, how did you get your X2 4000+ to 3GHz?

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#15 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]I'm gonna end the quote stacking,but yes thats the best option.TugboatTheGreat

Ok thanks a lot. And btw, how did you get your X2 4000+ to 3GHz?

I don't have it yet,its what i'm gonna build by the end of september,but anandtech got to 3.1GHz on a X2-E2300,so 3GHz shouldn't be a problem,plus i'm gonna get a Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro,but once i do get this baby to 3GHz,i'll show you a screenshot or the 3Dmark06 score :wink:
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#16 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]I'm gonna end the quote stacking,but yes thats the best option.AARONRULZ1

Ok thanks a lot. And btw, how did you get your X2 4000+ to 3GHz?

I don't have it yet,its what i'm gonna build by the end of september,but anandtech got to 3.1GHz on a X2-E2300,so 3GHz shouldn't be a problem,plus i'm gonna get a Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro,but once i do get this baby to 3GHz,i'll show you a screenshot or the 3Dmark06 score :wink:

Aight, bro.

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#17 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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What are you doing? Don't let these AMD fanboys let you astray, go for the Intel (anything) combo, it's way more future-proof and by overclocking you pretty dominate the competition.
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#18 Deagle_11
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I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

TugboatTheGreat

Wait a sec you want to only spend $830? You could build a way better comp with that money.

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#20 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

I'm buying from Newegg and I'm trying to keep the price under $830 including shipping

Deagle_11

Wait a sec you want to only spend $830? You could build a way better comp with that money.

Care to make some suggestions and show me? remember, the shipping is about $40 and I want to spend $830 shipping included.

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#21 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]What are you doing? Don't let these AMD fanboys let you astray, go for the Intel (anything) combo, it's way more future-proof and by overclocking you pretty dominate the competition.AARONRULZ1
I am NOT a AMD Fanboy you smartass,why would you recommend a X1950PRO over a X1950XT? sure there's better OCing capabbility,but the X1950XT is on par with a 7900GTX/X1900XTX.



" Then get a X2 3600,a BIOSTAR TF560A2+ and OC it to 3GHz,anandtech managed to do that,so you'll be able to afford the X1950XT."

Have fun with that buddy, I was talking about the CPU being more future-proof, NOT the video card which he can EASILY upgrade in the future, if he gets a P35 motherboard AGAIN he can EASILY upgrade anything else whenever he pleases on it. BUT HEY, let's get a X2 3600 and a outdated motherboard and overclock that, THAT's A GREAT IDEA!
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#22 AARONRULZ1
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The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?
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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]What are you doing? Don't let these AMD fanboys let you astray, go for the Intel (anything) combo, it's way more future-proof and by overclocking you pretty dominate the competition.K_r_a_u_s_e_r
I am NOT a AMD Fanboy you smartass,why would you recommend a X1950PRO over a X1950XT? sure there's better OCing capabbility,but the X1950XT is on par with a 7900GTX/X1900XTX.



" Then get a X2 3600,a BIOSTAR TF560A2+ and OC it to 3GHz,anandtech managed to do that,so you'll be able to afford the X1950XT."

Have fun with that buddy, I was talking about the CPU being more future-proof, NOT the video card which he can EASILY upgrade in the future, if he gets a P35 motherboard AGAIN he can EASILY upgrade anything else whenever he pleases on it. BUT HEY, let's get a X2 3600 and a outdated motherboard and overclock that, THAT's A GREAT IDEA!

Pwnage...:|

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#24 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?AARONRULZ1


lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?K_r_a_u_s_e_r


lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

No offence to either of you but you both kind of sound like Fanboys..I say this is the nicest most respectable way possible. :)

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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?K_r_a_u_s_e_r


lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

How do you know Penryn will kill Phenom X4? huh?
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#27 AARONRULZ1
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?TugboatTheGreat



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

No offence to either of you but you both kind of sound like Fanboys..I say this is the nicest most respectable way possible. :)

Dunno about the other guy but if i was a fanboy i'd be trolling,saying that AMD is God,Intel is for weaklings and INSULTING intel users,so no i'm not a fanboy,reason why i'm going AMD is because they're cheap and they're more than enough for the games i play.
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#28 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?AARONRULZ1



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

No offence to either of you but you both kind of sound like Fanboys..I say this is the nicest most respectable way possible. :)

Dunno about the other guy but if i was a fanboy i'd be trolling,saying that AMD is God,Intel is for weaklings and INSULTING intel users,so no i'm not a fanboy,reason why i'm going AMD is because they're cheap and they're more than enough for the games i play.

Haha...You'd be like LouieV13. :P

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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?TugboatTheGreat



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

No offence to either of you but you both kind of sound like Fanboys..I say this is the nicest most respectable way possible. :)

Dunno about the other guy but if i was a fanboy i'd be trolling,saying that AMD is God,Intel is for weaklings and INSULTING intel users,so no i'm not a fanboy,reason why i'm going AMD is because they're cheap and they're more than enough for the games i play.

Haha...You'd be like LouieV13. :P

Actually i'd be a MILLION times worse than him...
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?TugboatTheGreat



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

No offence to either of you but you both kind of sound like Fanboys..I say this is the nicest most respectable way possible. :)



Not true ;)

I support whatever is the greatest on the market for a reasonible price!

Here's what I was using before I got my new setup, also note that it worked great untill I got my new rig. It's actually a very good 03 server at the moment.

AMD 4THE LULZ


I have a time machine and it will FLOP, no but really it doesn't look that impressive at the moment and it's not worth the gamble in my opinion for new "customers" anyways. Hey, 3 HD 2900XT's, COOL HUH?
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#31 AARONRULZ1
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You don't have a time machine krauser,get real...
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#32 Deagle_11
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Here we go:

I'm assuming you already have a monitor and what-not. This is all from newegg. I'm too lazy to put links :D.

Core 2 Duo e4400 - $126 (overclocking ftw, hooray for 10x multiplier)

2x1gb Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 - $80 after rebate

Gigabyte GA-965G-DS3 - $115

eVGA 8800gts - $260 after rebate

Lite on DVD drive - $30

Hard Drive (250gb) - $50-60

PSU - $50ish

Case - $50ish

Grand Total - $771ish dollars ;)

A much better computer.

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[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?K_r_a_u_s_e_r


lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

How is Phenom looking like a flop, Mr. I'mnotafanboy?

If calling an unreleased product a flop not acting like a fanboy then I don't know what is...

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#34 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?LordEC911



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

How is Phenom looking like a flop, Mr. I'mnotafanboy?

If calling an unreleased product a flop not acting like a fanboy then I don't know what is...

:lol::lol: I laughed. "Mr. I'mnotafanboy". :lol:

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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?LordEC911



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

How is Phenom looking like a flop, Mr. I'mnotafanboy?

If calling an unreleased product a flop not acting like a fanboy then I don't know what is...

He is being a flaming intel fanboy...
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?LordEC911



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

How is Phenom looking like a flop, Mr. I'mnotafanboy?

If calling an unreleased product a flop not acting like a fanboy then I don't know what is...

What do you suggest I go with Lord? You know what you're talking about with kind of stuff, and you always give good advice.

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#37 AARONRULZ1
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Looks like Krauser just failed :wink:

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#38 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

4ULORDOFAMDATI/FAIL/CABI.NET


EDIT: It will bottleneck with the AMD.
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[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]The BIOSTAR Support's Phenom X4 so its NOT outdated,do your research before making biased comments like that ok?TugboatTheGreat



lol, Alright then, so he's going to waste his money twice now? Once for the X2 3600 and again for the Phenom that's already looking like a flop?

How is Phenom looking like a flop, Mr. I'mnotafanboy?

If calling an unreleased product a flop not acting like a fanboy then I don't know what is...

What do you suggest I go with Lord? You know what you're talking about with kind of stuff, and you always give good advice.

Id go with the X1950XT cause I had one awile back and it kicked ass and dont even SAY it will bottleneck with the AMD...
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#40 LouieV13
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I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

4ULORDOFAMDATI/FAIL/CABI.NET
K_r_a_u_s_e_r
Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.
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#41 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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LouieV13
Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.

Holy crap that looks exactly like my desk o.o
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#42 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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LouieV13
Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.

Yeah screw Krauser, I'm going with the 5200+ and the X1950XT. And the picture doesn't justify anything.

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#44 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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TugboatTheGreat

Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.

Yeah screw Krauser, I'm going with the 5200+ and the X1950XT. And the picture doesn't justify anything.

cool, you wont even get that much boost with the intel anyway... maybe 5fps but the XT rapes the PRO therefor giving better performance than Intel + PRO
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#45 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="TugboatTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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AARONRULZ1

Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.

Yeah screw Krauser, I'm going with the 5200+ and the X1950XT. And the picture doesn't justify anything.

SCREW HIM IN THE ASS!!!!! (Don't care if i get banned for saying that)

But anyway you'll be happy with that X1950XT :wink:

Ive said much worse im still here XD
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#46 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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LouieV13
Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.



Sorry, unfortunately your level of fanboyism is outranked by LordEC911 :(
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#47 TugboatTheGreat
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[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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K_r_a_u_s_e_r
Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.



Sorry, unfortunately your level of fanboyism is outranked by LordEC911 :(

Your Intel/Nvidia Fanboyism is on par with Lord's AMD/ATI Fanboyism. So you don't have any room talk.

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#48 LouieV13
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[QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="K_r_a_u_s_e_r"]I was waiting for him to show up, lol... He's #1. When it comes to AMD/ATI fanboism, but you can't hate him!

HERE'S MY PROOF! :lol:

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TugboatTheGreat

Im not an ATi fanboy... and I dont get the picture.



Sorry, unfortunately your level of fanboyism is outranked by LordEC911 :(

Your Intel/Nvidia Fanboyism is on par with Lord's AMD/ATI Fanboyism. So you don't have any room talk.

Im sorry but BUUURNED
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#49 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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See, I've actually owned and enjoyed AMD/ATI's service until they got overtaken by Intel/Nvidia in the performance department so, SRRY GOOD SIR ME CAN TALKS.
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#50 AARONRULZ1
Member since 2006 • 6273 Posts
Guess i'm done here,even though i'll stick around awhile more XD