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#1 SUD123456
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Intel Core i7-960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core

ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

What do you think about this combination? (other than price, which is not a concern)

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#2 superclocked
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Very nice. Expensive, but very nice. Are you going to buy it?
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#3 BLKR4330
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looks like an excellent combination to me. that said, i know you said price isn't a concern but i was just reading about the i7 930 earlier today and that really seems to be the new sweet spot for the i7 platform at around $300 less..

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looks like an excellent combination to me. that said, i know you said price isn't a concern but i was just reading about the i7 930 earlier today and that really seems to be the new sweet spot for the i7 platform at around $300 less..

BLKR4330

Do you have a link? I am not concerned about the money. But more expensive isn't always better and if there is something about the 930 that is particularly good I would like to know.

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#5 NLahren
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looks fine but not neccessary to take i7 960, since 920 or 930 will do the same work for cheaper price
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#6 kilerchese
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All the i7s perform the same when at the same clock speed, currently there are no differences between them. I think the only thing the i7 EE has over the others is the ability to turn off the high temp shutdown.

Other than that the i7 920 is all you really need for an i7 rig. Just make sure to get a nice cooling solution like a Noctua NH-U12P SE2 or ThermalTake 120 or even Corsair's self-contained, no maintenance H50 liquid cooling solution.

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#7 BLKR4330
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[QUOTE="BLKR4330"]

looks like an excellent combination to me. that said, i know you said price isn't a concern but i was just reading about the i7 930 earlier today and that really seems to be the new sweet spot for the i7 platform at around $300 less..

SUD123456

Do you have a link? I am not concerned about the money. But more expensive isn't always better and if there is something about the 930 that is particularly good I would like to know.

something to read here

sadly the 960 isn't included in the testing, which will be the faster cpu, not trying to suggest otherwise. i would just have a hard time to believe you're going to really notice a difference and am sure you're not going to notice the difference that the difference in price suggests. what's particularly good about the 930 is that it seems to be a great overclocker and in this case is even on par in performance with the 975 (extreme edition) when both are pushed to their limits (on air cooling).

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#8 superclocked
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The advantage of the 960 is that overclocking it will put less of a strain on your motherboard, which is usually one of the first components to fail. And if you keep it cool enough, you can push it further without modifying your motherboard, which is what I had to do...
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#9 SUD123456
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="BLKR4330"]

looks like an excellent combination to me. that said, i know you said price isn't a concern but i was just reading about the i7 930 earlier today and that really seems to be the new sweet spot for the i7 platform at around $300 less..

BLKR4330

Do you have a link? I am not concerned about the money. But more expensive isn't always better and if there is something about the 930 that is particularly good I would like to know.

something to read here

sadly the 960 isn't included in the testing, which will be the faster cpu, not trying to suggest otherwise. i would just have a hard time to believe you're going to really notice a difference and am sure you're not going to notice the difference that the difference in price suggests. what's particularly good about the 930 is that it seems to be a great overclocker and in this case is even on par in performance with the 975 (extreme edition) when both are pushed to their limits (on air cooling).

That was an excellent read. Thank you very much; I appreciate it.

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#10 SUD123456
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The advantage of the 960 is that overclocking it will put less of a strain on your motherboard, which is usually one of the first components to fail. And if you keep it cool enough, you can push it further without modifying your motherboard, which is what I had to do...superclocked

I hear yah. Thanks for the input.

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The advantage of the 960 is that overclocking it will put less of a strain on your motherboard, which is usually one of the first components to fail. And if you keep it cool enough, you can push it further without modifying your motherboard, which is what I had to do...superclocked
OMG I can not tell you how wrong you are. All of the i7 9 series CPUs overclock to about the same, but mostly it really determines on the batch that your CPU came from.

I can OC my i7 920 to 4.2GHz on AIR COOLING. Some people can only overclock their i7 920 to 3.2 or 3.4GHz on air cooling. Also, overclocking a 960 over a 920 will not differentiateany on the stress on the mother board. If anything, in overclocking, I see CPUs and RAM die faster than motherboards do.

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#12 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]The advantage of the 960 is that overclocking it will put less of a strain on your motherboard, which is usually one of the first components to fail. And if you keep it cool enough, you can push it further without modifying your motherboard, which is what I had to do...kilerchese

OMG I can not tell you how wrong you are. All of the i7 9 series CPUs overclock to about the same, but mostly it really determines on the batch that your CPU came from.

I can OC my i7 920 to 4.2GHz on AIR COOLING. Some people can only overclock their i7 920 to 3.2 or 3.4GHz on air cooling. Also, overclocking a 960 over a 920 will not differentiateany on the stress on the mother board. If anything, in overclocking, I see CPUs and RAM die faster than motherboards do.

Seriously, did you understand what I typed?? Because all of it was 100% correct... The higher the multiplier of the CPU is, the less you need to overclock the motherboard. That is fact, not opinion. Do you honestly think that increasing the bus speed by 50% or more doesn't put any extra strain on the motherboard? Wow. I've been working on computers for about 15 years, and I've replaced more motherboards than anything. I've even worked on computers in bulk for schools, and almost all of them had motherboards that had failed...
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#13 kilerchese
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Seriously, did you understand what I typed?? Because all of it was 100% correct... The higher the multiplier of the CPU is, the less you need to overclock the motherboard. That is fact, not opinion. Do you honestly think that increasing the bus speed by 50% or more doesn't put any extra strain on the motherboard? Wow. I've been working on computers for about 15 years, and I've replaced more motherboards than anything. I've even worked on computers in bulk for schools, and almost all of them had motherboards that had failed...superclocked
Ooooooo a whole 4x difference, guess WHAT. All i7s overclock about the same. They all have bad batches and they all have good batches. Little FYI, some people actually find, with the i7 in some cases, that lowering the multiplier and increasing the Core Clock can provide better speeds than higher multipliers with lower Core Clocks AND you don't have to pump as many voltages.

Secondly, most school PCs are made with crap components anyways. For the i7 we're talking about dropping $200 on a BASIC board. Thats probably 1/2 of what a school pays per PC.

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#14 superclocked
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Wow, you really didn't read it...
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#15 kilerchese
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Wow, you really didn't read it...superclocked
Yes I did and what I read is that you really didn't know what you were talking about.

In fact I think the thing that puts the most stress on motherboards isn't actually Core Clock increasing or CPU multipliers, but VOLTAGE INCREASES. More voltage=more heat. More heat=less life span. So, if a low CPU multiplier and high Core Clock can provide the same results has High CPU multi and low Core Clock with sometimes LOWER VOLTAGES doesn't that mean it would be better?

Still you can't deny the fact though that he may get an i7 that may only let him overclock to 3.6GHz. So for $600 he just bought a CPU that only OCs an extra 400Mhz when he could of easily bought an i7 920 that was guaranteed D0 batch and probably get from 2.6GHz to something like 3.8-4.2 on air for only $300.

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#16 superclocked
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Wow, I talked about how increasing the bus speed by 50% or more puts a lot more stress on the motherboard. Seriously, you keep bringing up subjects that I never even typed =\
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#17 kilerchese
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Wow, I talked about how increasing the bus speed by 50% or more puts a lot more stress on the motherboard. Seriously, you keep bringing up subjects that I never even typed =\superclocked
I've never increase my "bus speed" over 50%. In fact, I've never increase my core clock over 40%.

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#18 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]Wow, I talked about how increasing the bus speed by 50% or more puts a lot more stress on the motherboard. Seriously, you keep bringing up subjects that I never even typed =\kilerchese

I've never increase my "bus speed" over 50%. In fact, I've never increase my core clock over 40%.

*facepalm* Ok then...
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#19 kilerchese
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[QUOTE="kilerchese"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Wow, I talked about how increasing the bus speed by 50% or more puts a lot more stress on the motherboard. Seriously, you keep bringing up subjects that I never even typed =\superclocked

I've never increase my "bus speed" over 50%. In fact, I've never increase my core clock over 40%.

*facepalm* Ok then...

Buy guess what. I have overclocked to over 4.0GHz on less than 40% bus speed on my 920.

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#20 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="kilerchese"]I've never increase my "bus speed" over 50%. In fact, I've never increase my core clock over 40%.

kilerchese

*facepalm* Ok then...

Buy guess what. I have overclocked to over 4.0GHz on less than 40% bus speed on my 920.

Wow, I've hit a stable 4.7...
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#21 kilerchese
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Wow, I've hit a stable 4.7...superclocked
On air? I don't think so. With less than 40% Core Clock? I don't think so either.