CRT or LCD for gaming?

I'd definately recommend Samsung.

Definitely LCDs. True that LCDs still hasn't reach the level of CRTs when it comes to color depths and contrast ratios, but it is very close.

Besides, and LCD produces so much less heat and power consumption is alot less than a CRT. I don't see the reason going with a CRT at all even if you do animation designs.

I got a 5000:1 Contrast Ratio, 2ms LCD Monitor by LG (the Flatron wide series) at 20.1" for less than $250. Way better picture than my Old CRT monitor and I cannot tell any diffference between the response time's or input lag when side by side (except that the contrast on the LCD is amazing compared to the CRT). Better performance, less eye strain, and better color depth.

I'm never using CRT again.

I got a 5000:1 Contrast Ratio, 2ms LCD Monitor by LG (the Flatron wide series) at 20.1" for less than $250. Way better picture than my Old CRT monitor and I cannot tell any diffference between the response time's or input lag when side by side (except that the contrast on the LCD is amazing compared to the CRT). Better performance, less eye strain, and better color depth.

I'm never using CRT again.

Scurrydog

Definitely LCDs. True that LCDs still hasn't reach the level of CRTs when it comes to color depths and contrast ratios, but it is very close.

Besides, and LCD produces so much less heat and power consumption is alot less than a CRT. I don't see the reason going with a CRT at all even if you do animation designs.

SSJBen

So which one is right? you both give different opinions about LCDs (depth and contrast)

And remember that you are better off buying a cheap CRT rather than a cheap LCD.

And you should only be playing games in the native resolution of your LCD.So see if your PC can handle it.But anyways getting a LCD with a massive native res will mean that you have to upgrade your PC regularly as going too low a res on a LCD will not be very good.

And if you really need a massive screen but your PC cant handle massive resolutions than a 720p HDTV is the way to go.

It used to be that CRT's still had better colors, but I think that isn't much of an issue nowadays, especially not if you take a bit more expensive screen.
For example, I recently bought this 22 inch LCD, and it has 3000:1 contrast ratio.ShotGunBunny

[QUOTE="ShotGunBunny"]It used to be that CRT's still had better colors, but I think that isn't much of an issue nowadays, especially not if you take a bit more expensive screen.
For example, I recently bought this 22 inch LCD, and it has 3000:1 contrast ratio.Makari

agreed, now for advertising they often post the dynamic contrast ratio instead of the static, and the dynamic is always higher then a static contrast ratio, so when they say 3000:1, its more likley going to be viewd as a 700-800:1

and dont get me wrong, 700-800:1 is plentty fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005100

On newegg when I bought my LG LCD monitor it said 3000:1 contrast ratio(no dynamic stuff like the Samsung one was) When it shipped, the mointor at the top right says 5000:1, and I belive it. Like I said in the post above, I put both of my monitors next to each other and saw a much better picture on my LCD over my CRT. The CRT seemed kinda flatter (2 yrs old btw) but the LCD just had that "pop" to the colors, made them really stand out. Maybe its the f-engine in the Flatron's that get me, I dunno. (note: in a full black screen, you can notice about a half inch gradiant backlight bleed, but its only noticable on a full black image, hasnt affected anything else)

I've tried tweaking my CRT over and over but cant get to my LCD's color depth. I think I paid 250 bucks for my CRT when it was new, and I paid $230 for this LCD. 2ms and 5000:1 contrast ratio, cant beat it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005100

On newegg when I bought my LG LCD monitor it said 3000:1 contrast ratio(no dynamic stuff like the Samsung one was) When it shipped, the mointor at the top right says 5000:1, and I belive it. Like I said in the post above, I put both of my monitors next to each other and saw a much better picture on my LCD over my CRT. The CRT seemed kinda flatter (2 yrs old btw) but the LCD just had that "pop" to the colors, made them really stand out. Maybe its the f-engine in the Flatron's that get me, I dunno. (note: in a full black screen, you can notice about a half inch gradiant backlight bleed, but its only noticable on a full black image, hasnt affected anything else)

I've tried tweaking my CRT over and over but cant get to my LCD's color depth. I think I paid 250 bucks for my CRT when it was new, and I paid $230 for this LCD. 2ms and 5000:1 contrast ratio, cant beat it.

Scurrydog

they are all listing the dynamic, not just the samsung, it is a good monitor, but a 3000:1 static contrast ratio it is not.

i just picked up the Westinghouse LCM-22w2 monitor a few hours ago. This thing retailed for $500 when it came out, but i got it today for $225.

It looks so much better than my old monitor. UT3 looks amazing now. And crysis is unbelievableat 1680^1050

A few years back I would have said CRT for numerous reasons.. CRT was always sharper, instant reaction time where LCDs had trouble with ghosting, cheaper etc etc... THat is not the case now adays, where you can get a quality LCD 22" for as cheap as $250 or even less..sSubZerOo

That's absolutely laughable. Calling a 6-bit TN panel "quality" is like calling a Go-Cart a Porsche 911. That's meerly a functional monitor*

-

Do yourself a favor - don't ask here. Head over to HardOCP or AVS before you wind up making a bad purchase, and then trying to justify it by recommending it to others. This is unfortunately a forum where people equate blinding brightness and screen size with quality. You're getting a lot of POS monitors recommended to you, a whole lot of POS monitors. The moment someone starts trying to tell you their $250 LCD has "5000:1 contrast ratio" or that "response time" is a valuable indicator on TN monitors (of course they're fast, they're throwing away over 16 million colors) you need to walk away and talk to someone who actually deals with this kind of stuff.

The difference is night and day. The monitor is something you absolutely *cannot* cheap out on, suck it up, bite the bullet, do the right thing, and if you're going LCD look for an S-IPS panel. If you're going CRT, don't get a $200 bargain-bin POS, call up ViewSonic or LaCie and start asking some questions. A monitor last for years, stay the hell away from those bargain-bin crap fests. If you cannot afford a good LCD, try and find an ad agency or such looking to get rid of some of their old studio monitors - chances are you can get some cheap high-end CRT to last you until OLED comes out and ends the pathetic mediocrity that sub-$600 LCD has become.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] A few years back I would have said CRT for numerous reasons.. CRT was always sharper, instant reaction time where LCDs had trouble with ghosting, cheaper etc etc... THat is not the case now adays, where you can get a quality LCD 22" for as cheap as $250 or even less..subrosian

That's absolutely laughable. Calling a 6-bit TN panel "quality" is like calling a Go-Cart a Porsche 911. That's meerly a functional monitor*

-

Do yourself a favor - don't ask here. Head over to HardOCP or AVS before you wind up making a bad purchase, and then trying to justify it by recommending it to others. This is unfortunately a forum where people equate blinding brightness and screen size with quality. You're getting a lot of POS monitors recommended to you, a whole lot of POS monitors. The moment someone starts trying to tell you their $250 LCD has "5000:1 contrast ratio" or that "response time" is a valuable indicator on TN monitors (of course they're fast, they're throwing away over 16 million colors) you need to walk away and talk to someone who actually deals with this kind of stuff.

The difference is night and day. The monitor is something you absolutely *cannot* cheap out on, suck it up, bite the bullet, do the right thing, and if you're going LCD look for an S-IPS panel. If you're going CRT, don't get a $200 bargain-bin POS, call up ViewSonic or LaCie and start asking some questions. A monitor last for years, stay the hell away from those bargain-bin crap fests. If you cannot afford a good LCD, try and find an ad agency or such looking to get rid of some of their old studio monitors - chances are you can get some cheap high-end CRT to last you until OLED comes out and ends the pathetic mediocrity that sub-$600 LCD has become.

Amen, brother. I would add, a sub $200 POS CRT is leagues ahead of a sub $200 POS LCD in picture quality... :P

Samsung make some VERY nice LCD's. :)-CheeseEater-

You meant to say they made VERY cheap ones. Let alone quality of most models.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] A few years back I would have said CRT for numerous reasons.. CRT was always sharper, instant reaction time where LCDs had trouble with ghosting, cheaper etc etc... THat is not the case now adays, where you can get a quality LCD 22" for as cheap as $250 or even less..subrosian

That's absolutely laughable. Calling a 6-bit TN panel "quality" is like calling a Go-Cart a Porsche 911. That's meerly a functional monitor*

-

Do yourself a favor - don't ask here. Head over to HardOCP or AVS before you wind up making a bad purchase, and then trying to justify it by recommending it to others. This is unfortunately a forum where people equate blinding brightness and screen size with quality. You're getting a lot of POS monitors recommended to you, a whole lot of POS monitors. The moment someone starts trying to tell you their $250 LCD has "5000:1 contrast ratio" or that "response time" is a valuable indicator on TN monitors (of course they're fast, they're throwing away over 16 million colors) you need to walk away and talk to someone who actually deals with this kind of stuff.

The difference is night and day. The monitor is something you absolutely *cannot* cheap out on, suck it up, bite the bullet, do the right thing, and if you're going LCD look for an S-IPS panel. If you're going CRT, don't get a $200 bargain-bin POS, call up ViewSonic or LaCie and start asking some questions. A monitor last for years, stay the hell away from those bargain-bin crap fests. If you cannot afford a good LCD, try and find an ad agency or such looking to get rid of some of their old studio monitors - chances are you can get some cheap high-end CRT to last you until OLED comes out and ends the pathetic mediocrity that sub-$600 LCD has become.

What kind of monitor is the Samsung 226BW? TN? or...

Samsung LCDs are good, Sony LCDs have Samsung panels in them.

It all depends on what resolution you're going to be using, LCD monitors look awful at low resolutions, where as CRT look fine at low and high resolutions.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] A few years back I would have said CRT for numerous reasons.. CRT was always sharper, instant reaction time where LCDs had trouble with ghosting, cheaper etc etc... THat is not the case now adays, where you can get a quality LCD 22" for as cheap as $250 or even less..Sentinel672002

That's absolutely laughable. Calling a 6-bit TN panel "quality" is like calling a Go-Cart a Porsche 911. That's meerly a functional monitor*

-

Do yourself a favor - don't ask here. Head over to HardOCP or AVS before you wind up making a bad purchase, and then trying to justify it by recommending it to others. This is unfortunately a forum where people equate blinding brightness and screen size with quality. You're getting a lot of POS monitors recommended to you, a whole lot of POS monitors. The moment someone starts trying to tell you their $250 LCD has "5000:1 contrast ratio" or that "response time" is a valuable indicator on TN monitors (of course they're fast, they're throwing away over 16 million colors) you need to walk away and talk to someone who actually deals with this kind of stuff.

The difference is night and day. The monitor is something you absolutely *cannot* cheap out on, suck it up, bite the bullet, do the right thing, and if you're going LCD look for an S-IPS panel. If you're going CRT, don't get a $200 bargain-bin POS, call up ViewSonic or LaCie and start asking some questions. A monitor last for years, stay the hell away from those bargain-bin crap fests. If you cannot afford a good LCD, try and find an ad agency or such looking to get rid of some of their old studio monitors - chances are you can get some cheap high-end CRT to last you until OLED comes out and ends the pathetic mediocrity that sub-$600 LCD has become.

Amen, brother. I would add, a sub $200 POS CRT is leagues ahead of a sub $200 POS LCD in picture quality... :P

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] A few years back I would have said CRT for numerous reasons.. CRT was always sharper, instant reaction time where LCDs had trouble with ghosting, cheaper etc etc... THat is not the case now adays, where you can get a quality LCD 22" for as cheap as $250 or even less..Brolz

That's absolutely laughable. Calling a 6-bit TN panel "quality" is like calling a Go-Cart a Porsche 911. That's meerly a functional monitor*

-

Do yourself a favor - don't ask here. Head over to HardOCP or AVS before you wind up making a bad purchase, and then trying to justify it by recommending it to others. This is unfortunately a forum where people equate blinding brightness and screen size with quality. You're getting a lot of POS monitors recommended to you, a whole lot of POS monitors. The moment someone starts trying to tell you their $250 LCD has "5000:1 contrast ratio" or that "response time" is a valuable indicator on TN monitors (of course they're fast, they're throwing away over 16 million colors) you need to walk away and talk to someone who actually deals with this kind of stuff.

The difference is night and day. The monitor is something you absolutely *cannot* cheap out on, suck it up, bite the bullet, do the right thing, and if you're going LCD look for an S-IPS panel. If you're going CRT, don't get a $200 bargain-bin POS, call up ViewSonic or LaCie and start asking some questions. A monitor last for years, stay the hell away from those bargain-bin crap fests. If you cannot afford a good LCD, try and find an ad agency or such looking to get rid of some of their old studio monitors - chances are you can get some cheap high-end CRT to last you until OLED comes out and ends the pathetic mediocrity that sub-$600 LCD has become.

What kind of monitor is the Samsung 226BW? TN? or...

226BW is using lowest quality TN panel...

[QUOTE="Brolz"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] A few years back I would have said CRT for numerous reasons.. CRT was always sharper, instant reaction time where LCDs had trouble with ghosting, cheaper etc etc... THat is not the case now adays, where you can get a quality LCD 22" for as cheap as $250 or even less..domke13

That's absolutely laughable. Calling a 6-bit TN panel "quality" is like calling a Go-Cart a Porsche 911. That's meerly a functional monitor*

-

Do yourself a favor - don't ask here. Head over to HardOCP or AVS before you wind up making a bad purchase, and then trying to justify it by recommending it to others. This is unfortunately a forum where people equate blinding brightness and screen size with quality. You're getting a lot of POS monitors recommended to you, a whole lot of POS monitors. The moment someone starts trying to tell you their $250 LCD has "5000:1 contrast ratio" or that "response time" is a valuable indicator on TN monitors (of course they're fast, they're throwing away over 16 million colors) you need to walk away and talk to someone who actually deals with this kind of stuff.

The difference is night and day. The monitor is something you absolutely *cannot* cheap out on, suck it up, bite the bullet, do the right thing, and if you're going LCD look for an S-IPS panel. If you're going CRT, don't get a $200 bargain-bin POS, call up ViewSonic or LaCie and start asking some questions. A monitor last for years, stay the hell away from those bargain-bin crap fests. If you cannot afford a good LCD, try and find an ad agency or such looking to get rid of some of their old studio monitors - chances are you can get some cheap high-end CRT to last you until OLED comes out and ends the pathetic mediocrity that sub-$600 LCD has become.

What kind of monitor is the Samsung 226BW? TN? or...

226BW is using lowest quality TN panel...

The point being is how better or worse is the actual image compared to a similar model CRT? This guy sounds lik the typical person who wants to get the most expensive thing as posible because he wants teh best of the best.. When I merely stated from what I have seen form many CRT's and LCD's is the difference alot of itmes at the level he is asking for is unnoticable.. Most people out there are not gonna want to spend $600 on a display no matter what you believe..

And I don't even have a LCD yet! I am just making a comparison from my friends LCD and my monitor (Samsung SyncMaster 997mb 19')

What kind of monitor is the Samsung 226BW? TN? or...

Brolz

That one is unfortunately a TN-panel. To my knowledge the only currently available non-TN 22" LCD is made by Lenovo and is pretty scarce.

It all depends on what you can afford on TN vs. other panel types. If you are on a budget, to me it would make more sense to get the 20+inch WS TN panel for ~$200-$300 as apposed to a 17 inch other panel type for the same price. But if you can afford it nothing beats big MVA or other panel types. (basically not TN).General_X

If you're really on a budget you're better off purchasing a used studio CRT (after some careful inspection) and living with that until a more viable alternative (or more money) can be found. TN-panels sacrifice everything for price - the color, the contrast, the vertical viewing angle, image stability, black-level, and proper light balance.

OLED's blues have already reached a decent lifespan, Sony is putting out their first units in Japan. OLED will inevitably beat out LCD simply because it removes the backlight and the power circuitry for the backlight. Removing this expensive component means that even if OLED panels cost more to manufacture, the completed panel will be cheaper.