I find it amazing how game devs like to squize every bit of cash out of the average pc gamer to get us buying a bunch of stuff that we dont need. What im talking about is that a large portion of the new computer games that have released are vista only games, I mean lets face it. Windows just cant stop at the video card upgrades, thing is they got to shove there crappy "new" OS down our throats. For instance, i've been waiting for 2 years to see the new game Crysis, and i was very pleased to know that the game will be available very soon on store shelves. Thing is i saw this and i flipped, knowing that even god knows that im not going to pay a couple hundred for an "upgraded" os[more like a crappy looking theme pack like the free one i got from some website].
Minimum Requirements
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6600/X800GTO (SM 2.0)
RAM: 768Mb/1Gb on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP
Recommended Requirements
CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista
Thing is, u have to have the stupid thing to even run it on min. my rig can run about the recommended req but i cant run it at all thanks to microsoft.
Well I agree Microsoft is pushing Vista down our throats a bit too much, especially with games like Halo 2 and Shadow Run (did people actually buy this? :P) being Vista only. Although as for Crysis you don't really need Vista, at all. In fact 99% of all footage, including what we saw at E3, was done in XP and in DX9.
But hey, PC gaming isn't exactly the cheapest form of gaming :(
What are you talking about? DX10 is "recommended", but that doesn't mean it's necessary - I'll bet that Crysis will look just fine with DirectX 9, and as long as you have some decent hardware, it'll look just fine very smoothly as well.
Looking forward to playing it on DX9... seeing as there isn't much difference between DX9 and DX10 in the Crysis comparison vids I've seen... *prepares flame shield*
Then again it's equally stupid to try running a game like Crysis that was basically built to run on next gen hardware on a 3-5 year old graphics card. Really, for the look of the game those requirements aren't that steep at all, and you don't need Vista, it will still look great on XP.
Looking forward to playing it on DX9... seeing as there isn't much difference between DX9 and DX10 in the Crysis comparison vids I've seen... *prepares flame shield*Sandro909
Well I agree Microsoft is pushing Vista down our throats a bit too much, especially with games like Halo 2 and Shadow Run (did people actually buy this? :P) being Vista only. Although as for Crysis you don't really need Vista, at all. In fact 99% of all footage, including what we saw at E3, was done in XP and in DX9.
But hey, PC gaming isn't exactly the cheapest form of gaming :(
Peter_Darkstar
Look pc gaming isn't cheap, and never will be. The hardcore pc gamers are pretty much ready for Crysis. Oh and i bought Vista and Shadowrun (only to play with my 360 friends.) And i will say i have yet to have any problems with Windows Vista. The ATI Drivers are really mature right now.
Also, the game will look wonderful in DX9 and DX10. It runs in both, you don't need Vista. If you want DX10 you need Vista and a DX10 graphics card. Honestly, it really isn't asking for much. Thats just me though.
im running vista and its not a bad os i dont think dx10 should require vista tho and there is no reason for halo 2 and shadowrun to be in vista. the drivers are coming along fine and vista is a really good os imo
Anyway, Vista isn't required for Crysis, thank god. It still looks amazing in DX9, and really you're not going to notice that much of a difference in DX10, and it generally runs better under DX9 anyway. You should definitely have a good graphics card and a lot of RAM to play this game though, as game requirements are getting steeper by the minute. My Advice: Do NOT, under any circumstances, buy Windows Vista. It is a piece of crap at the moment, and probably always will be. It is nothing more than a shiny new interface and a downgrade as far as stability goes.
...My Advice: Do NOT, under any circumstances, buy Windows Vista. It is a piece of crap at the moment, and probably always will be.
RayvinAzn
So your rig "pwns" those system requirements, yet doesn't have the recommended OS? Doesn't sound plausible to me.
It has Vista. How do I know? He is my friend. lol, the reason he said don't buy Vista because it's been nothing but complete **** to him. But I guess that's what you get with a brand new OS.
It has Vista. How do I know? He is my friend. lol, the reason he said don't buy Vista because it's been nothing but complete **** to him. But I guess that's what you get with a brand new OS. WhiteSnake5000
It's never fun being a guinea pig - hopefully Vista will be a little more stable by the time Crysis comes out - isn't the first Vista service pack supposed to be out around the same time as Crysis?
[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]It has Vista. How do I know? He is my friend. lol, the reason he said don't buy Vista because it's been nothing but complete **** to him. But I guess that's what you get with a brand new OS. RayvinAzn
It's never fun being a guinea pig - hopefully Vista will be a little more stable by the time Crysis comes out - isn't the first Vista service pack supposed to be out around the same time as Crysis?
[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]It has Vista. How do I know? He is my friend. lol, the reason he said don't buy Vista because it's been nothing but complete **** to him. But I guess that's what you get with a brand new OS. WhiteSnake5000
It's never fun being a guinea pig - hopefully Vista will be a little more stable by the time Crysis comes out - isn't the first Vista service pack supposed to be out around the same time as Crysis?
Well, Vista isn't an entirely "crappy" OS - it's still pretty good even if it has it's bugs and problems.
However I agree with the statement that MS is trying to get all to most gamers to migrate to Vista to experience the new form of games in DX10 and such.
I agree with you RayvinAzn - hopefully Vista will be much more better and stable by the time Crysis is released, and I think the service pack is rumoured or currently in the works.
im running vista and its not a bad os i dont think dx10 should require vista tho and there is no reason for halo 2 and shadowrun to be in vista. the drivers are coming along fine and vista is a really good os imoBlackfriend8
XP cant run DX10. It cant. DX10 isnt Vista only cause microsoft would want to sell as many copies or something. IT just CANT be run under XP cause of its totally renewed API. That means that DX10 should run faster than DX9 and still providing better image quality. Thats why it cant be runned under XP. They would need to change almost half code of XPs to made DX10 run in XP.
lol....that made me think of, what if Microsoft made Windows XP Extreme Gamer Edition? New built that supports DX 10, higher speeds, and Better sound Quality....lol
Besides the Majority of Microsofts Consumers are Gamers.....so they could ern big bucks on it.
This is something called 'innovation', and that games or hardware or Operating System scenario's like these have been a thing that happened in the past as much as it is happening today. You may be thinking that you don't need all this new stuff just to play one game, but it's been done over and over with various other games, from Quake 2 and 4, Unreal Tournament and F.E.A.R., people always had trouble upgrading their PC's to play a game. That most of the time didn't stop them. Sure, they complained about it quite a bit, but eventually, people still upgraded, prices started to drop and newer games with higher demands became available. Result: the new hardware get's replaced with newer hardware and suddenly, that rig you needed to play ONE game get's much more attractive, since the prices are beginning to drop and you find rebates. And then you upgrade altogether. A long time ago, a whole lot of articles became available which mentioned the fear of hardware developers, since basically nobody needed much more then a 1GHz PC to do all their work, but it didn't stop people from upgrading to the latest rig just to get a little bit more speed out of it, but mostly to be with the others who decided to upgrade as well.
[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]You can get a PC for under $600 that can get medium settings or better in crysis.WhiteSnake5000
Yeah let's do that. lol pay $600 just to play Crysis.
pay $600 to play GAMES.. not just crysis... people do that with the ps3.. so why not do it with a pc?
XP cant run DX10. It cant. DX10 isnt Vista only cause microsoft would want to sell as many copies or something. IT just CANT be run under XP cause of its totally renewed API. That means that DX10 should run faster than DX9 and still providing better image quality. Thats why it cant be runned under XP. They would need to change almost half code of XPs to made DX10 run in XP.
domke13
actually Dx10 could run in xp.. microsoft just decided to make it for vista only as a marketing stratedgy. isnt that like saying dx9 cant run onXp because its different from dx8..?
dx10 is an api/intergrated program w/e... my point is a program can be written to run on any stable operating system.
Correct me if im wrong but microsoft could easily make a dx10 api for XP without rewriting half of XP's fundamental code
[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]You can get a PC for under $600 that can get medium settings or better in crysis.Ephexis
Yeah let's do that. lol pay $600 just to play Crysis.
pay $600 to play GAMES.. not just crysis... people do that with the ps3.. so why not do it with a pc?
XP cant run DX10. It cant. DX10 isnt Vista only cause microsoft would want to sell as many copies or something. IT just CANT be run under XP cause of its totally renewed API. That means that DX10 should run faster than DX9 and still providing better image quality. Thats why it cant be runned under XP. They would need to change almost half code of XPs to made DX10 run in XP.
domke13
actually Dx10 could run in xp.. microsoft just decided to make it for vista only as a marketing stratedgy. isnt that like saying dx9 cant run onXp because its different from dx8..?
dx10 is an api/intergrated program w/e... my point is a program can be written to run on any stable operating system.
Correct me if im wrong but microsoft could easily make a dx10 api for XP without rewriting half of XP's fundamental code
Not true. They couldnt easily made DX10 for XP. That isnt Microsoft selling strategy.They cant make DX10 in XP.
[QUOTE="Ephexis"][QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]You can get a PC for under $600 that can get medium settings or better in crysis.domke13
Yeah let's do that. lol pay $600 just to play Crysis.
pay $600 to play GAMES.. not just crysis... people do that with the ps3.. so why not do it with a pc?
XP cant run DX10. It cant. DX10 isnt Vista only cause microsoft would want to sell as many copies or something. IT just CANT be run under XP cause of its totally renewed API. That means that DX10 should run faster than DX9 and still providing better image quality. Thats why it cant be runned under XP. They would need to change almost half code of XPs to made DX10 run in XP.
domke13
actually Dx10 could run in xp.. microsoft just decided to make it for vista only as a marketing stratedgy. isnt that like saying dx9 cant run onXp because its different from dx8..?
dx10 is an api/intergrated program w/e... my point is a program can be written to run on any stable operating system.
Correct me if im wrong but microsoft could easily make a dx10 api for XP without rewriting half of XP's fundamental code
Not true. They couldnt easily made DX10 for XP. That isnt Microsoft selling strategy.They cant make DX10 in XP.
regardless of who is right or wrong here the fact is microsoft is a business, and business's main aim is to make money so i think its fair to say that it is, in some way or another, a marketing strategy
[QUOTE="domke13"][QUOTE="Ephexis"][QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]You can get a PC for under $600 that can get medium settings or better in crysis.Ephexis
Yeah let's do that. lol pay $600 just to play Crysis.
pay $600 to play GAMES.. not just crysis... people do that with the ps3.. so why not do it with a pc?
XP cant run DX10. It cant. DX10 isnt Vista only cause microsoft would want to sell as many copies or something. IT just CANT be run under XP cause of its totally renewed API. That means that DX10 should run faster than DX9 and still providing better image quality. Thats why it cant be runned under XP. They would need to change almost half code of XPs to made DX10 run in XP.
domke13
actually Dx10 could run in xp.. microsoft just decided to make it for vista only as a marketing stratedgy. isnt that like saying dx9 cant run onXp because its different from dx8..?
dx10 is an api/intergrated program w/e... my point is a program can be written to run on any stable operating system.
Correct me if im wrong but microsoft could easily make a dx10 api for XP without rewriting half of XP's fundamental code
Not true. They couldnt easily made DX10 for XP. That isnt Microsoft selling strategy.They cant make DX10 in XP.
regardless of who is right or wrong here the fact is microsoft is a business, and business's main aim is to make money so i think its fair to say that it is, in some way or another, a marketing strategy
have you got anything to backup what your saying?
I was reading that in my countrys PC hardware magazine. Its in slovenian language so i guess you wont understand. Ill try to google something similar in english.
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