Crysis. First time ever there hasnt been a graphx card to fully run a game

On the market. 2x 8800 gtx SLI and the game is a slide show at high quality full AA and everything enabled set to max. What a joke.....Hung_Phat

Not really.

You buy Crysis now, and you can run it on medium/high and it looks better than the competition.

You run Crysis in two years from now and it still looks better than the competition.

Win win situation. I don't see why people complain about owning a product that will only get better - it's like buying shares and having a cry when they go up.

people forget this the Crytek2 engine will be powering many of the most anticipated titles for the next 5+ years. Thats why the engine was built to last. Remember when doom3 was a system killer? Now games running that engine (quake wars) are just average in terms of required system power. Crysis was made for todays machines, but the engine was built to last for many many many yearsTeamR

Actually its not the first time at all. Oblivion was in a similar situation. Also I think Farcry was though it's long ago so I cant remeber for sure.Mazoch

Oblivion? Morrowind maybe...I was able to run Oblivion maxed day of release same for many others.

EverQuest II had this issue...heck the developers stated it like a badge of honor. Downside is once the cards came out to run that game in full glory...it wasn't THAT great looking...more due to the art direction than much else.

EQ2 also was way beyond available hardware when it was released, for the reason that it will look good years down the road. You are not intended to be able to run at max.Agarthi

Was just about to mention that. When EQ2 first came out it was impossible even for the $5000 rigs to run it on maxed settings, and it wasn't due to bad optimization. It's still an incredible looking game. Too bad SOE decided to dumb it down to compete with WoW.. :(

You buy Crysis now, and you can run it on medium/high and it looks better than the competition.

nintendomix

Not my experience, on mix of medium/high, it looks no better, if not worse than the like of Bioshock, GoW, HL-E2, and Jericho

You run Crysis in two years from now and it still looks better than the competition.

nintendomix

That's simply a speculation from your part...it cannot be proved in any way, unless of course you got yourself a time machine to check for us

Actually its not the first time at all. Oblivion was in a similar situation. Also I think Farcry was though it's long ago so I cant remeber for sure.nintendomix

Not really; Oblivion was nothing at all when it came out since by then, SLI and 6800 and even 7800 cards have already been released. Far Cry was more demanding; taxing the hell out of 5950 Ultra and 9800XT, but those cards still handled the game much more adequately than 8800 series facing off Crysis.

[QUOTE="Agarthi"]EQ2 also was way beyond available hardware when it was released, for the reason that it will look good years down the road. You are not intended to be able to run at max.SuperBeast

Was just about to mention that. When EQ2 first came out it was impossible even for the $5000 rigs to run it on maxed settings, and it wasn't due to bad optimization. It's still an incredible looking game. Too bad SOE decided to dumb it down to compete with WoW.. :(

Lets not get insane now...EQ2 had HORRIBLE looking areas in terms of design. Also the pre dumbed down version many claim was great...sucked. You had way too many people looking alike and poorly mapped areas where enemies were so close together it was a chore to do much of anything. I loved the game while I played it but they NEVER capitalized on the games many areas....look at the city design...on many servers more parts are empty than much else.

It had great potential but it keeps trying to be 3 different games...instead of one.

Just imagine the quality of games that will be released using this engine. I think it is fantastic, this is a major leap forward on the road to realism in games. It's not just the graphics, but the gameplay and story are enhanced by the capabilities of the new engine.zakaweb

Well to be fair many said that about FarCry...and look how many games used that engine.

Don't get too caught up in it.

[QUOTE="zakaweb"]Just imagine the quality of games that will be released using this engine. I think it is fantastic, this is a major leap forward on the road to realism in games. It's not just the graphics, but the gameplay and story are enhanced by the capabilities of the new engine.Tequila_Zaire

Well to be fair many said that about FarCry...and look how many games used that engine.

Don't get too caught up in it.

also, if it's so hardware demanding (=more difficult to scale for mainstream rigs), I don't think many dev would see it as a good engine to base on. Currently Unreal 3 engine is quite popular and I think the main reason is precisely that it's good looking while friendly to mainstream hardwares (Bioshock, GoW, Stranglehold and such).

Game is running fine. I'm using 2x 8800 gtx SLI and e6850 overclocked to 3.38 GHz which is a small overclock. Settings all on very high except no AA. Everyone can just forget AA.soulpain11

resolution?

We're all over the place here. Not really coherent to be honest.

The point the OP made was that no graphics card can run Crysis maxed with full anti-aliasing (16x I assume.), and says this is the first time.

Since I have been at the high-end of the hardware charts for the longest time, it's easy to dispell.

-Everquest 2 wasn't maxed 8x AA.

-Doom 3 wasn't maxed with 8x AA.

-Several games on released weren't maxed with 8x AA.

Now, you could say "fine, without AA then....", and I'd point out I max the game with an 8800GTS (Not the best card on the market).

It's also worth noting that Crysis doesn't take advantage of quad-core processors or SLI configurations (atleast that's what a Crysis admin posted somewhere).

[QUOTE="nintendomix"]

You buy Crysis now, and you can run it on medium/high and it looks better than the competition.

teardropmina

Not my experience, on mix of medium/high, it looks no better, if not worse than the like of Bioshock, GoW, HL-E2, and Jericho

You run Crysis in two years from now and it still looks better than the competition.

nintendomix

That's simply a speculation from your part...it cannot be proved in any way, unless of course you got yourself a time machine to check for us

Actually its not the first time at all. Oblivion was in a similar situation. Also I think Farcry was though it's long ago so I cant remeber for sure.nintendomix

Not really; Oblivion was nothing at all when it came out since by then, SLI and 6800 and even 7800 cards have already been released. Far Cry was more demanding; taxing the hell out of 5950 Ultra and 9800XT, but those cards still handled the game much more adequately than 8800 series facing off Crysis.

Very well said. I ran DOOM 3 with a athlon xp 2400+ and Ati 9700xt maxed out just fine

EQ2 also was way beyond available hardware when it was released, for the reason that it will look good years down the road. You are not intended to be able to run at max.Agarthi

Exactly why I entered this thread. EQ2 was an unoptomized beast at launch, I spent more time on optomization then playing on what was a somewhat high end card at the time (9800xt).

The same goes for Crysis, Very-High settings aren't available to the current lineup of cards (you can hack some of the options in though) but we have to wait for the new Nvidia 9000 series before we start seeing what Crytek has done with Very-High.foxhound_fox

Actually, very-high is available to Vista. I'm on an 8800GTS and run on it Very high.

The same goes for Crysis, Very-High settings aren't available to the current lineup of cards foxhound_fox

I assume you are talking about winXP. If not, then you are misinformed. Very-high is available only on Vista. Very high = DX10 settings.

Anybody remember Grand Prix 2?

A bit off-topic because there weren't any graphic cards when it was published.

Game is running fine. I'm using 2x 8800 gtx SLI and e6850 overclocked to 3.38 GHz which is a small overclock. Settings all on very high except no AA. Everyone can just forget AA.soulpain11

Yeah i don't see why so many are having problems with high end machines. Mine runs great. I'm running windows vista 32, 6800 EE, 2 Gb ram, I have 8800 gtx SLi but i'm only using one card, and my resolution is 1600x1200 with no AA and it runs great. All settings are on very high. I used the optimal settings button and thats what it set the game to by default.

[QUOTE="zakaweb"]Just imagine the quality of games that will be released using this engine. I think it is fantastic, this is a major leap forward on the road to realism in games. It's not just the graphics, but the gameplay and story are enhanced by the capabilities of the new engine.Tequila_Zaire

Well to be fair many said that about FarCry...and look how many games used that engine.

Don't get too caught up in it.

their first engine was never licenced to other developers....

this one is...and several games have already announced to have been using it.

I can run with very high (dx10) ok, but sometimes it feels sluggish even though visually it's fairly smooth. I took it down to all high settings and made it perform much better. I realized that the dx10 enhancements weren't worth sacrificing that much performance. So the sky was a little brighter, the sun had rays. . no big deal. Actually I think the water in high looks better than very high.

8800GT, core2 E6850, 2gig ram.

Doom 3 destroyed people's computers when it was released. No one could run it on Ultra. Theres a reason Ultra is still a card benchmark today.

People always seems to forget that the 8800GTX is basically a year old card. When the new cards are released (newer 8800GTs), Crysis should run even better. It still looks amazing on medium.

Honestly, the developers should've just put a time release on the very high setting. Its just a setting people. High looks unbelievable anyway.

Wait, you expect to run Crysis with 16x AA? That's the joke right there. It's hilarious how people keep forgetting what "pushing the envelope" means. GodLovesDead

Exactly.

Now quit complaining about the graphics and enjoy the extraordinary gameplay!

People always seems to forget that the 8800GTX is basically a year old card.

andrewt1187

Doesn't matter if it's 10 years old. Fact is, it is still one of the top performing cards available. Being a year old means only one thing in this case: this past year was a slow year for new generation cards.

On the market. 2x 8800 gtx SLI and the game is a slide show at high quality full AA and everything enabled set to max. What a joke.....Hung_Phat

You obviously don't remember when Everquest 2 first came out... or Ultima 9, or a slew of other games that pushed the graphics envelope when they came out. Crysis isn't breaking any new ground.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The same goes for Crysis, Very-High settings aren't available to the current lineup of cards Qixote

I assume you are talking about winXP. If not, then you are misinformed. Very-high is available only on Vista. Very high = DX10 settings.

No, very high settings aren't DX10. Very high settings can, in fact, be run in XP by doing a workaround. You do have to have Vista to enable DX10, as XP is incapable of using it. You have to allow the game to run in DX10 before you start the game (I don't have Vista so I'm not certain, but I think others have said you basically go into the properties of the game's shortcut and allow the program to run in DX10 [I could be wrong, but it's something like that]).

DX10 has very little visually over DX9, however, performance is boosted quite a lot in most cases. Unfortunately, due to Vista taxing your system considerably more than XP, even with DX10 enabled for the game in Vista, it still runs better in XP.

To make it worse, as I said, very high settings are not DX10-only, and can be run in XP. Crytek must have been in cahoots with Microsoft on this or something, since they made the game automatically lock the very high settings out in XP. However, to get around this, all you have to do is replace certain lines in the high settings config file with the corresponding lines in the very high config file. Doing this will make any setting on high actually be using the effects of very high.