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#1 chester706
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I recently got 1.6 from Steam after hearing how much more fun it is than Source. I agree and I think it is more satisfying but damn is it much more hard. The bullet spread seems to be outrageous. So much to me that I can have the reticule right on the guy and nothing hits him. When I get a kill it is very satisfying and I enjoy the "barebone" FPS gameplay. I am just getting a little ticked about getting owned. Can I have some tips and tricks that maybe some of you guys use to succed.
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#2 Xeros606
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fire in short bursts. crouch when you can. the best weapon, hands down, is the m4. dont let anyone tell you anything else, its the most balanced gun in the game. aim for the head. dont leave yourself open to enemy fire. vent camping on cs_assault will only get you kicked. instead of using your pistol to save money so you can buy an expensive gun later, buy an mp5. you will get more kills and you have a better chance at surviving. alternatively, if your on a big server (12v12 and up) you can buy a deagle and armor and wait for someone to die so you can have their weapon. walk, dont run when you get into enemy territory. you can take down one or two before dying, or if you dont like your situation, you can escape. switch to knife in the first 20 seconds of the game, youll run faster.

ill add more to this if i can think of some stuff.

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#3 chester706
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I see. I watched some videos and people seems to be going full auto and hitting stuff and killing people just wondering whats up with that. I fire in controlled bursts but the spread seems crazy. I think I just have to get used to it. Also is it just me or is the AK very hard to get a hit with not up close.
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#4 error11
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just keep playing and practicing. the guys on 1.6 are beasts and have been playing since the game was released. god speed...

sorry, i got a little ot. but anyway, i found this on the interwebz, not my writing...

-Stop running you retard
Walk, don't make noise, and listen. It's so simple but so many bad players don't seem to understand this. Make as little noise as possible. Take advantage of people firing loud weapons and run then. You should also use a headset in order to get a better sense of sound direction.

-Learn to strafe fire.
By strafe fire I don't mean strafing to one side, stopping and firing a burst, then strafing to the other. If you're doing that you're doing it wrong. What you want to do is strafe to one side and then when you you're ready to shoot, strafe the opposite direction and fire at the same time. The shot will go straight. This is critical when it comes to using rifles like an AK47 effectively, but not all.

-Aim at the head. THE HEAD, NOT THE CHEST.
When asked what's best to aim at lots of people will tell you the chest, because recoil will land a headshot. When you ask someone who gets almost nothing but headshots where they aim, they'll tell you they aim at the head. The reason that it's better to aim for the head, in my opinion, is that you will kill the person shooting at you before they kill you.

One of the major issues with aiming at the chest is that most of the time you're not even hitting their chest, you're hitting their left arm. When holding most guns the left arm is held infront of the chest. While the arm doesn't appear that big, The hitbox is bigger than what you see. Arm shots do less damage than chest shots. This is why you'll frequently shoot at people, land a ton of hits and they'll still kill you. If you're playing on a server that has stats, check your stats by saying /rankstats and notice what body part you're hitting the most, you'll usually have around 3x more left arm shots than anything else.

-But it's hard to aim at the head!
It is at first, but with practice it becomes second nature. Also the head hitbox is somewhat larger than the head you're seeing and the neck counts as the head too. The most important thing about getting headshots is to ALWAYS KEEP THE CROSSHAIR AT HEAD LEVEL. When on level ground with the target it's all about accurately lining the crosshair up left or right as fast as possible.

How I got better at aiming:

-Improving aim.
I used to suck at aiming, I'd always concentrate on trying to drag the crosshair over the target as accurately as possible and would end up trailing behind them or over them, aiming when they move around, and generally getting really frustrated to the point that I figured I just didn't have the ability to do it, so I stopped caring. Turns out that was the key to success.

Finally discovering what my friend, whom I hadn't been paying attention to, had been telling me all along. I realized that the key to aiming is being relaxed. By being relaxed, I mean physically, not sitting tensed up leaning towards the screen, and mentally, not thinking about what I'm trying to do. This involved leaning back and not really focusing my eyes on anything other than the center of the screen, watching for movement/enemies with peripheral vision, and not caring if I'm sure I'm actually on target when I fire. Aiming becomes more of a reflexive process than anything.

When playing I try to remain as calm as possible then when I notice an enemy I pretty much move the mouse in their direction, which is often only left or right a little, and strafe to the left or right as I'm doing it, then when the shot feels lined up I strafe the opposite direction and fire, doing this as one quick sequence.

A benefit to strafing while targetting is that a lot of people will miss their shots, and others will sometimes try to wait until I stop moving to fire, which generally works to my advantage since I fire the second I switch directions.

Mouse sensitivity is key to actually hitting anything though. When I first started doing this I noticed my shots were frequently going off just after the target, usually to the right, so I adjusted mouse sensitivity gradually until I started landing shots, which for me, happens to be 2.0 with my mouse.

The whole process of quickly strafe shooting has gotten to the point where it's become almost a reflex for me, and in some cases it is. On good days I perform the whole process so fast I'll end up shooting someone in the head without realizing what I'm doing. I constantly get called a hacker when this starts happening. Sometimes people who realize I'm aiming at nothing but the head will duck right before I fire and I'll miss which makes it even funnier because then I look like an aimbotter.

I find a negative side effect of strafe firing all the time to be that I can have a hard time actually standing stationary and firing. I have like friggin CS ADHD. If I start camping something and remain still I'll end up getting anxious and then I'll start thinking too much about aiming and I start missing.

-The Scout.
I learned to aim using this gun. It's my favorite gun. I am a scout whore. I didn't actually start to enjoy playing CS with friends until I played scoutzknivez after learning about strafe firing. Once I started realizing I could hit people with it, and consistently, I got hooked on scout and pretty much used nothing else for a month, lolz and such. Played lots and lots of scoutzknivez and other scout friendly maps in that time.

In my opinion, the scout is the best weapon to learn to aim with. It's perfect for strafe firing because while holding a scout you run as fast as you do holding a knife, and you can run while zoomed. Practice with it helps improve shot accuracy too.

Aside from movement speed, the scout is friggin great at walling. It can shoot through damn near everything. Firing has become more than just pushing the left mouse button due to the way I play, it's the whole process of acquiring the target while moving, locking on and then firing. The mental decision the fire is really at the start of the process. If I see someone who I'm going to shoot at and they run behind a corner/wall/etc when I fire the crosshair is usually still on them resulting in a 100+ damage headshot through the wall. This can also happen in reverse where I move behind cover and they're still in the open. Walling like this works really well on Scoutzknivez and I get called a wallhacker a lot because of it.

A side effect of using a scout all the time was developing the subconscious habbit of aiming at the head via use of pistols. Using a scout at close range isn't real practical, so I got lots of pistol practice.

Despite the fact it can't shoot through walls, my favorite pistol is the P228. It's a headshot magnet. When going up against someone with an assault rifle with a pistol there's really only one real way to do it if you want to survive. Shoot them in the head. Pistols have good accuracy while moving so strafing isn't an issue. I just run at the target firing at their face. It only takes two headshots, or a couple upper chest and a headshot. The key is conserving ammo and not just spraying, and being aware of where your shots are going. The USP is also good for this. Lots of satisfaction too when you manage to kill multiple people at once without reloading.

-AK47
After like a month of only using scout I finally decided to use an AK47 due to friends whining at me. I was pretty surprised the first time I used it. Without any practice with it I was suddenly destroying people with it. The constant strafe firing and subconsciously keeping the crosshair at head level, due to all the pistol use, was the perfect combo for AK. I was playing Dust2 at the time and was amazed that I'd turn corners and immediately land headshots on the first burst.

An observation I've made over time is that if I don't kill a target within the first 3 shots/bursts I'm probably going to die(true of all weapons). I generally start to panic and start firing too fast, and AK recoil builds up, or else if I get pegged that puts an end to strafing. Long range with an AK can also be pretty difficult.

A trick my friend taught me for long range AK firing is too aim at their head and then crouch right as your firing, for some reason this gets lots of headshots. It only works some of the time though, and if it misses don't keep trying because if you keep crouching and standing you're going to get shot in the head.

As for other weapons, well I don't tend to use many others unless I have to. I have problems with the M4 because I usually end up trying to use it like an AK out of habbit. The recoil is totally different, and strafe firing isn't so necessary as it's pretty accurate even when moving.

I also stink with an AWP. The biggest issues being that I forget to stand still when I fire, I forget that I move slow as crap zoomed, and that I run slow as crap in general while holding one. I've been getting better though.

-Some days are better than others
I find, as most people probably do, some days I just really suck. Some hours I really suck. My play is never consistent and usually gets worse the longer i've been playing.

-Learn the maps
This is probably the most important advice someone can give you. You can be a great shot, but if you don't know the maps it doesn't matter. This is why I consider myself a mediocre player overall, because there are too many maps I'm still not familiar with.

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#5 chester706
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Wow dude this is a nice read thanks alot.
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#6 chester706
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Would you reccomend me playing the deathmatch servers to get a feel for this before I hop into the round by round ones. I am an impatient person lol.
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#7 chester706
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And so I see aiming is kinda like the golf swing. Dont think about it. (Lol I play golf).
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#8 error11
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Would you reccomend me playing the deathmatch servers to get a feel for this before I hop into the round by round ones. I am an impatient person lol.chester706

yeah. just keep practicing in DM so you won't have to wait for you to respawn so you can train more. practice makes perfect!

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#9 Xeros606
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Would you reccomend me playing the deathmatch servers to get a feel for this before I hop into the round by round ones. I am an impatient person lol.chester706

no, because then you wont learn the tactics of the map that you need. play on small servers with no mods.

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#10 yanni1
Member since 2004 • 1067 Posts

all the tips from error11 are great, but. none of that helps when 1/2 the server are hacking

dont get me wrong CS is a great game and ive been playing on and off for over 4 years.but theres just too many nowdays for you to get started in 1.6, not to mention the legit players that have been playing since beta and are pretty much "pros", thats why you should considering sticking with source. Im not saying theres no hackers in source, theres just alot less and as you mentioned in your first post chester, alot more "noob friendly" in the way of recoil and such.

just my 2 cents.

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#11 chester706
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[QUOTE="chester706"]Would you reccomend me playing the deathmatch servers to get a feel for this before I hop into the round by round ones. I am an impatient person lol.Xeros606

no, because then you wont learn the tactics of the map that you need. play on small servers with no mods.

Im talking about the fundamentals of aiming etc not the tactics.
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#12 zooos26
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Ok, here are some tips

To start off, did you set your rates up? if not in console(maybe create a config file buy creating a text file, putting in this info, and saving it as userconfig.cfg in the counter strike/cstrike folder)

cl_cmdrate 100

cl_updaterate 100

rate 25000

ex_interp 0

Ok another thing is, change your resolution to a lower one, ethier 640*480 or 800*600, its easier to aim, the crosshair is smaller, and easier when spraying.

Now I'm going to help you learn about weapons, first

Deagle-

First thing you need to know is, it doesnt aim in the middle, its mostly random, but in a decent server the bullets end up going right above the bottom vertical line of the crosshair, so aim a little higher on the head. Another thing that is wierd, is, if you move forward or backward while strafing left or right the bullets hit dead on, weird huh?

AK47 -

First, a video helping you made by a member of one of the best 1.6 teams, SK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze-2S2_8KIU&fmt=18

My personal tips:

When Spraying:

Pull down, I'm also experimenting with this but try it out, as you spray move your crosshair in a counter clock wise circle and the bullets seem to hit the same general area.

Close up:

starting shooting as you duck, easy way to get headshots and hard to get shot. This is the only time you should spray

Medium Range: 2 shot bursts, no more then 2, Aim towards the neck/head area

Long Range: Either 2 shot bursts, or 1 shot bursts(where you click release click realease) giving about half a second inbetween shots. Also, a little harder, but aiming towards the head, and pulling down with a burst of 5 shots.

M4:

Again a video by a member of SK team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtpUsu0YWYE&fmt=18

This gun has less recoil, but its also weaker

When Spraying: This spray has more random of a patter, but the first 4 bullets arent as jumpy. The same ducking teq with the ak can also be applied here, but if you dont get the headshot right away, sway left to right up near the head area.

Close Range: Spraying 4-5 bullets(about the 4th bullet pull down a little)

Medium Range: Burst 3 Bullets

Long Range: Burst 3 bullets, or the same 1 shot burst but less time pausing then ak due to the reduced recoil.

USP:

The usp you can run forward and get accurate shots.

Up Close: Aim towards chest/neck area and spray up.

Distance: Shoot slowly, shoot a bullet, rest and so on and so forth

Glock:

Clock is really wierd, its never dead one but in that facinity.

Semi-Automatic:

Use for distance, strafe when using, and if you need to run forward always strafe as you do for best accuracy

Burst:

User for close up, and coke places. Also, you can jump and burst and its hard to hit a jumping target

AWP:

Another AK Player video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6O7cI9xf00&fmt=18

Practice with scout to get good with awp.

A no-scope secret(idk if its in vid)

Press the zoom key, and right after wards press the shoot key, after that, as long as you dont quick switch, the awp is tricked into thinking its zoomed and will aim accuratley scoped out.

Strafing in 1.6 is cruical, and i recommend you enter this cl_dynamiccrosshair 0, because dynamic crosshairs lie.

This is the best way to break down, the only time you really shoot accurately(with rifles for the most part) is when your standing still. When you press a move key, it tells the client something like "moving is true", when you release the key your using, quickly tap the opposite direction(or the walk key), the moving is canceled and therefore you can aim more accurate, instead of completely stopping and waiting.

For instance:

If your walking forward on cat, a quick way to shoot that person accurately, is to release the forward key, tap the walk key, and then aim and shoot. This works with strafing as well, if your strafing left, and you want to shoot, quickly release the left key, tap the right key, and you wan aim accurately.

Spamming:

In 1.6 you can shoot through walls, what makes this possible are walls that have been made with only 1 brush size. You can shoot through doors, and most common walls(Like when going out a tunnels to long, the wall right before you make the left turn to head up to a is spamable.)

you have to practice and learn.

http://csgoodies.com/spam-spots

Has good pictures for spam spots

On youtube, search nuvoids spam or wallbang

Another thing is, angels are more important in cs, and knowing the maps as well, so learn them!

One last note would be, when positioning yourself, always try to catch a person moving straight forward, because its harder for them to shoot then you.

2 Examples:

1.) Cat, if a person is running forward on cat and you strafe out, it should take you less time to get off a shot then the other person

2.) If your ct ramp to a plat, and someone is came for cat and is running straight to plant bomb a, its easier to kill them because they have to do more to get off a good shot.

Kinda confusing hope it helped though, btw, i think visuals would help more, and if you want, send me an email and I'll create a demo demonstrating as much as I can.

email is lilt326@gmail.com

if you send me one, make the subject something with gamespot in it.

hope i helped

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#13 sn4k3_64
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Wow, what an excellent post. I have read through this and have been a cs 1.6 player for quite a long time and I learnt a lot, nice one guys ^ ^

I've started wondering though, does resolution make much of a change in getting kills etc?

Cya

Sean