CS: S or BF2?

ok I currently have the latest version of Americas Army on my PC works perfectly fine, nice and smooth but its kinda annoying me, so I want a new shooter game, I was deciding between Battlefield 2 or Counter Strike Source, my question is that would it be able 2 run either of these games if it can run AA smoothly? Im guess it wld run CS:S no problem. I dunno how to find my system specs so maybe someone could tell me how?

But then I was wondering, what is the online like for these games? Are they full of games?? Or would I mostly likely not find a game on BF2 anymore? Thanks for any help

CS...

I've played CS for 8 years and I've never become bored with it...only extremely pissed off at time.

BF2 doesn't even hold a match to CS. I bought it the day it came out and didn't play it anymore after about a week. There's not enough skill involved in BF2. It's about who get's the biggest vehicle the fastest and the spawn camps the longest. No fun...

EDIT: Not to mention BF2 has the worst programmers I've ever seen. That game is so full of bugs and uneven gameplay that I don't know why anyone even plays it.

I loaded it up on my new rig to see if the programming is as horrible as I thought and it is. On an AMD X2 5600+, 8800gtx, and 2 gigs of ddr2 800 RAM, the game STILL lags like I don't have enough RAM. It chugs everywhere you go because of poor programming. You have to run around an a map for about 15 minutes before it's cached...haven't they heard of pre-caching?

CS...

I've played CS for 8 years and I've never become bored with it...only extremely pissed off at time.

BF2 doesn't even hold a match to CS. I bought it the day it came out and didn't play it anymore after about a week. There's not enough skill involved in BF2. It's about who get's the biggest vehicle the fastest and the spawn camps the longest. No fun...

EDIT: Not to mention BF2 has the worst programmers I've ever seen. That game is so full of bugs and uneven gameplay that I don't know why anyone even plays it.

I loaded it up on my new rig to see if the programming is as horrible as I thought and it is. On an AMD X2 5600+, 8800gtx, and 2 gigs of ddr2 800 RAM, the game STILL lags like I don't have enough RAM. It chugs everywhere you go because of poor programming. You have to run around an a map for about 15 minutes before it's cached...haven't they heard of pre-caching?

D9-THC

Uhh....all the bugs are patched now. Name even one bug. The only bug there is is bf2 crashing which happens maybe once a week. And my 7600gs oced to 540/420, 2gigs of ddr 400mhz and p4 single core runs it at 1600x1200,4x aa,16x af, max view distance and everything else maxed with 30-50 fps. And vehicles are pretty weak in bf2, a tank takes 2 shots from an AT rocket to blow up....which is pretty easy to blow up. It's much more infantry focused other then jets which are pretty strong but if you have a decent jet pilot on your team he should keep the jet busy. And it takes about 4 shots to kill someone in BF2 with an automatic rifle so yes it does require skill and cover.

Uhh....all the bugs are patched now. Name even one bug. The only bug there is is bf2 crashing which happens maybe once a week.DarkRecruit

And my 7600gs oced to 540/420, 2gigs of ddr 400mhz and p4 single core runs it at 1600x1200,4x aa,16x af, max view distance and everything else maxed with 30-50 fps.

And vehicles are pretty weak in bf2, a tank takes 2 shots from an AT rocket to blow up....which is pretty easy to blow up.

It's much more infantry focused other then jets which are pretty strong but if you have a decent jet pilot on your team he should keep the jet busy.

And it takes about 4 shots to kill someone in BF2 with an automatic rifle so yes it does require skill and cover.

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]Uhh....all the bugs are patched now. Name even one bug. The only bug there is is bf2 crashing which happens maybe once a week.D9-THC

And my 7600gs oced to 540/420, 2gigs of ddr 400mhz and p4 single core runs it at 1600x1200,4x aa,16x af, max view distance and everything else maxed with 30-50 fps.

And vehicles are pretty weak in bf2, a tank takes 2 shots from an AT rocket to blow up....which is pretty easy to blow up.

It's much more infantry focused other then jets which are pretty strong but if you have a decent jet pilot on your team he should keep the jet busy.

And it takes about 4 shots to kill someone in BF2 with an automatic rifle so yes it does require skill and cover.

I don't get the skipping either. I haven't noticed any bugs since they patched it. So it takes 4-5 rounds to kill someone in BF2 and you state the same thing about CS. So where's the contrast? Yo don't HAVE to be in a vehicle. I play infantry almost exclusively and I do just fine. It's about cover and concealment. If a vehicle is camping a spawn...don't spawn there, it's common sense.As far as vehicles spawn camping...that's what they do in real life. It's called a support by fire position to soften the target. Rifles being inaccurate, have you ever shot an automatic rifle? They aren't easy to shoot on automatic. The PKM is all over the place if you hold down the trigger. If you shoot it in 5-6 round bursts from the prone it is quite accurate. If a vehicle just runs into a spawn without cover it's quite easy to blow it up. There's probably a few Spec Ops guys or AT guys around. Usually there's enough cover around to maneuver and get some good AT shots in. I've seen many tanks come flying into a spawn to try and take it only to be raped by like 4 rockets. I don't see the game as being as flawed as you claim it is. I don't play CS:S so I can't speak as to how good/bad I think it is. But your conclusions are drawn from the first month of play. I can fairlyconsistently hit the top 3 rankings in a match if I have a semi-devcent team on my side. Oh yeah, the rifles seem pretty balanced to me, except for the G36/E, those just seem too accurate to me.

I don't get the skipping either. I haven't noticed any bugs since they patched it. So it takes 4-5 rounds to kill someone in BF2 and you state the same thing about CS. So where's the contrast? Yo don't HAVE to be in a vehicle. I play infantry almost exclusively and I do just fine. It's about cover and concealment. If a vehicle is camping a spawn...don't spawn there, it's common sense.As far as vehicles spawn camping...that's what they do in real life. It's called a support by fire position to soften the target. Rifles being inaccurate, have you ever shot an automatic rifle? They aren't easy to shoot on automatic. The PKM is all over the place if you hold down the trigger. If you shoot it in 5-6 round bursts from the prone it is quite accurate. If a vehicle just runs into a spawn without cover it's quite easy to blow it up. There's probably a few Spec Ops guys or AT guys around. Usually there's enough cover around to maneuver and get some good AT shots in. I've seen many tanks come flying into a spawn to try and take it only to be raped by like 4 rockets. I don't see the game as being as flawed as you claim it is. I don't play CS:S so I can't speak as to how good/bad I think it is. But your conclusions are drawn from the first month of play. I can fairlyconsistently hit the top 3 rankings in a match if I have a semi-devcent team on my side. Oh yeah, the rifles seem pretty balanced to me, except for the G36/E, those just seem too accurate to me.

burticvs

Just what I was going to say. I play CSS as well (started playing about 2 weeks ago), and I can tell you that it is easier to kill an enemy in CSS than in BF2. In CSS it is INCREDIBLY easy (compared to BF2) to get a headshot. If you run up to a guy and fire a rifle until the clip is empty, it is very likely that you will get a headshot because of the recoil of the gun. If you do that on BF2, you will only hit him a few times. BF2 takes the "teamwork" concept to a greater level, because the maps are larger than the ones from CSS. And the camping stuff, theres always like 3 or more players with AWP's camping in CSS, no matter which server you log to.

I haven't played it in years so I can't name any...they're there though. It's the buggiest shooter I've ever played period.

Don't get me wrong, I get a great framerate no matter what system I'm using. The problem is that the game skips ALL the time because it's trying to cache textures as you play rather than loading them up before you play. Maybe the limited memory addresses of a 32-bit system create this problem but there are ways around it. Oblivion has equally large environments and arguably more complex but that skipping never happens in Oblivion. Poor programming...

Not true...it takes four rockets to the front, three to the tracks, and two the the rear. Any tank driver who is worth anything to his team keeps his rear covered at all times and repairs his tank in between missle hits allowing perma-spawn-campage. It's not rare at all for tank drivers to achieve 30:1 ratios with kills alone. Even APCs and small ORVs can be used to spawn camp extremely effectively. And spawn camping is encouraged...nothing like dying and waiting 15 seconds just to die again.

Infantry rarely does anything valuable in BF2. You have to be armored if you want to cap some points without being raped repeatedly so you HAVE to use a vehicle. If you're on foot, you're fodder.

In CS it takes...
4 shots with the AK
5 with the M4
5 with the Gali
5/6 with the Famas5 with the M249

Unless you can aim and you get a headshot then you're rewarded for being skilled. Weapons in BF2 are so inaccurate that skill is rarely rewarded and spray and pray seems to be the norm.

And the camping stuff, theres always like 3 or more players with AWP's camping in CSS, no matter which server you log to.

Whermacht02

I only play on servers that have AWPS and autos banned. I never have to deal with those noobs.

There's servers in BF2 that don't have vehicles?...that would be sweet. Vehicles are 90% of the reason why that game sucks so much.

[QUOTE="Whermacht02"]

And the camping stuff, theres always like 3 or more players with AWP's camping in CSS, no matter which server you log to.

D9-THC

I only play on servers that have AWPS and autos banned. I never have to deal with those noobs.

There's servers in BF2 that don't have vehicles?...that would be sweet. Vehicles are 90% of the reason why that game sucks so much.

Well, playing in servers that dont allow the AWP would be nice. And yes, BF2 has Infantry Only servers. No vehicles of any kind, not even transports. Those servers are ussually full of people

I play both games. I play a lot more CS:S though. I think both games are a lot of fun in their own right. BF2 is nice because you actually get ranked against all of the other players in the game and get rewarded. CS:S doesn't have anything like that unless you're on a server that has their own stats program like HLstatsX. If you can afford to, get both games.

yes I could afford both, but thing is Im wondering which one would last me the longest, be most fun etctec. I played BF2:MC on the XB360 and really enjoyed that so i guess Id enjoy BF2 alot too? are they simular

yes I could afford both, but thing is Im wondering which one would last me the longest, be most fun etctec. I played BF2:MC on the XB360 and really enjoyed that so i guess Id enjoy BF2 alot too? are they simular

-mcr-Shane

Battlefield 2 is so much better then Modern Combat on consoles that I can't even explain it. I played Modern Combat and really, it's no where near Battlefield 2 quality. It's a shame though. Consoles could very well handle a game like that. Especially on Live it would be cool, but they always mess it up.

Get BF2.

I personally got tired of BF2 really fast... the game can be very slow-paced at times, and shooting games that don't have any blood just irritate me.

On the other hand, I've been playing Counter-Strike on and off since beta 1, and moved to Source when Half-Life 2 came out, so I'm a bit of a fanboy. But the game is great, and if you keep playing you will really notice your skills improving. It's also a great game if you want to start playing competitively.

The only problem I have with CS:S is that most servers only play a few maps... but the same seems to go with BF2 as well. There are just so many awesome maps for CS:S that I don't see played AT ALL anymore (e.g. tides).

Anyway, I think you'll have more fun in the end with CS:S, but if you're asking about CS:S that probably means you don't have Half-Life 2... in which case I have to ask, what's wrong with you!?

It all depends on what you like, if you want the best round-based shooter around get CS:S, if you want a shooter with vehicles get BF2.

I like CS:S much more than BF2 since in my opinion there's much more skill needed in CS:S and I think round-based gameplay makes you care more if you live or die.

It all depends on what you like, if you want the best round-based shooter around get CS:S, if you want a shooter with vehicles get BF2.

I like CS:S much more than BF2 since in my opinion there's much more skill needed in CS:S and I think round-based gameplay makes you care more if you live or die.

ikwal

Very true...not wanting to die adds a lot of suspense and excitement to the game.

Ahhh man, Battleifled 2 is da bomb!

(no pun intended!)