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Meh.
Too much luck factor involved, it's nowhere near the best game available on PC.
N30F3N1X
Read this.
Read this.
SovietsUnited
I'm not referring to bad positioning or misuse of perception, I'm referring to how the crosshair works. Shooting someone just to have him turn around and kill you in 1 hit from a headshot after he starts jumping around with a crosshair that's twenty centimeters wide is incredibly frustrating.
I know what you're thinking. All the pros were hating on this game and blah blah blah. Sure, I get it. They fail to adapt to the new counter-strike. They protect their ego and pretend "random" killed them. Look, after you play the game for at least 20 or 30 hours, you'll start to get the hang of the new recoil. Recoil in CS:GO is not random at all, it's a spray pattern unique to each gun. Get used to it. Stop whining. I guarantee if you can look past the minor defects you'll enjoy this game immensely! It's a Valve game people, they're all works in progress. Give it time and it will meet your super high "master race gaming" expectations, I assure you. Sure, there's a lack of maps and silencers are missing and whatnot. Custom servers are where it's at. You can find tons of custom maps already available, as well as remakes of some old classics. The game is great! Give it a chance, it's only $15 for Christ's sake. Don't be a cheapskate!Sarcasm I assume?
Stream_Beta
ah yeThat's why I play video games, to look better than everybody else and not be a scrub. You figured it out.
Wasdie
Just played a couple of rounds of GO. I like the feel of the weapons more than the old CS games. The recoil is more consistent. I can see myself playing this for the longer term.
If you're not already playing it religiously, you should. CS:GO is the best damn game available on the PC right now. I know, it's sad that nothing can compete with Counter-Strike for over 12 years now, but that's the way it is. You don't want to be some kind of a scrub who's bad at competitive online games, right? They'll call you a n00b and a scrub and make fun of you if you don't get good at this game. So stop wasting your time playing casual garbage and pick up this game right now.SKaREO
Please..
If you're not already playing it religiously, you should. CS:GO is the best damn game available on the PC right now.SKaREO
I stopped reading here. :lol:
I'm just glad the OP doesn't make my gaming decisions for me. CSGO is decent but easily is trumped by Dayz, by Arma 2, by Guildwars 2, hell even by Skyrim. There are FAR more games that I'd rather be playing than CSGO, it's doing little more than collecting (virtual) dust in my Steam library. I'll be back on Dayz personally...
Not surprised to see this type of thread from the OP, he routinely posts stupid crap like this all over these forums.
I'm not going to lie when I say I find it hilarious that you said "Many popular games today were influenced by TF2's class based combat, such as the Battlefield series, the Call of Duty series, and the Tribes series." in your review of TF2 on steam.
Don't be silly. Team Fortress is the premier class based online shooter. I don't know where you're getting your information from ....I'm not going to lie when I say I find it hilarious that you said "Many popular games today were influenced by TF2's class based combat, such as the Battlefield series, the Call of Duty series, and the Tribes series." in your review of TF2 on steam.
slimjimbadboy
[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]Don't be silly. Team Fortress is the premier class based online shooter. I don't know where you're getting your information from .... AHAHaha. Are you one of those who came to steam when tf2 went f2p? And teamfortress classic didn't influence anything. Soz for my tone.I'm not going to lie when I say I find it hilarious that you said "Many popular games today were influenced by TF2's class based combat, such as the Battlefield series, the Call of Duty series, and the Tribes series." in your review of TF2 on steam.
SKaREO
[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]UT and Quake take even more skill, why stop at CS? Because they're very 90ish and got a very little community thesedays.Great game, lot of skill involed. Much more so than any Cod game. That is why I prefer it.
Cranler
[QUOTE="SKaREO"][QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]Don't be silly. Team Fortress is the premier class based online shooter. I don't know where you're getting your information from .... AHAHaha. Are you one of those who came to steam when tf2 went f2p? And teamfortress classic didn't influence anything. Soz for my tone. Team Fortress was developed in 1996, therefore it was one of the first class based shooters that got it's own stand-alone game. It influenced all of the future class based titles without a doubt. The engineer class especially, you see that class in many games today.I'm not going to lie when I say I find it hilarious that you said "Many popular games today were influenced by TF2's class based combat, such as the Battlefield series, the Call of Duty series, and the Tribes series." in your review of TF2 on steam.
alan_carter
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]UT and Quake take even more skill, why stop at CS? Because they're very 90ish and got a very little community thesedays. Whats 00ish or 10ish about CS? I rarely have problems finding games in Quake live and UT 2004. Very few noobs since those games have been out so long either so its always a challenge.Great game, lot of skill involed. Much more so than any Cod game. That is why I prefer it.
alan_carter
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="alan_carter"] Because they're very 90ish and got a very little community thesedays.SKaREOWhats 00ish or 10ish about CS? I rarely have problems finding games in Quake live and UT 2004. Very few noobs since those games have been out so long either so its always a challenge. Quake and arena shooters like it are very 1990's bro. Twitch shooting is very skillful, but so is movement and positioning. Learn how to play a more modern game and I assure you that you will enjoy it, maybe even more than Quake live. Don't try and play CS like you're a super soldier bunny hopping all over the place anymore either, it's more modern and realistic now.you are a nub if you think that
so you can't just rely on your aim, and if say someone aims better than you, you have to avoid frontal combat... ofcthis is almost never the case for me.(ah ye)
superior quake live race
also cs go has a lot of luck component like all cs games
even if your crosshair is dead centered and tracked your shots just might not hit since the crosshair is huge when moving
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="alan_carter"] Because they're very 90ish and got a very little community thesedays.SKaREOWhats 00ish or 10ish about CS? I rarely have problems finding games in Quake live and UT 2004. Very few noobs since those games have been out so long either so its always a challenge. Quake and arena shooters like it are very 1990's bro. Twitch shooting is very skillful, but so is movement and positioning. Learn how to play a more modern game and I assure you that you will enjoy it, maybe even more than Quake live. Don't try and play CS like you're a super soldier bunny hopping all over the place anymore either, it's more modern and realistic now.
What does CS have that makes it so modern? Many consider it old school with the lack of iron sites.
Please expand on movement and positioning and how they dont exist in Quake and UT.
Realism doesnt automatically equal less casual. The less damage and slower the movement the more likely noobs are able to get lucky frags. Advanced movement systems like strafejumping or wall dodging make game more complex, more to learn equals more skill required.
You assume I play no modern games. My modern games of choice at the moment are BF 3 and Gears 3. Reaching full potential in those games takes much longer than CS. Being great with a tank, jet and heli require a lot of practice.
The movement at 29 sec is harder than anything in CS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCXnh_fpPs&feature=related
Imagine a noob up against this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TKRw4R8OA&feature=fvwrel
Quake and arena shooters like it are very 1990's bro. Twitch shooting is very skillful, but so is movement and positioning. Learn how to play a more modern game and I assure you that you will enjoy it, maybe even more than Quake live. Don't try and play CS like you're a super soldier bunny hopping all over the place anymore either, it's more modern and realistic now.[QUOTE="SKaREO"][QUOTE="Cranler"] Whats 00ish or 10ish about CS? I rarely have problems finding games in Quake live and UT 2004. Very few noobs since those games have been out so long either so its always a challenge.Cranler
What does CS have that makes it so modern? Many consider it old school with the lack of iron sites.
Please expand on movement and positioning and how they dont exist in Quake and UT.
Realism doesnt automatically equal less casual. The less damage and slower the movement the more likely noobs are able to get lucky frags. Advanced movement systems like strafejumping or wall dodging make game more complex, more to learn equals more skill required.
You assume I play no modern games. My modern games of choice at the moment are BF 3 and Gears 3. Reaching full potential in those games takes much longer than CS. Being great with a tank, jet and heli require a lot of practice.
The movement at 29 sec is harder than anything in CS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCXnh_fpPs&feature=related
Imagine a noob up against this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TKRw4R8OA&feature=fvwrel
I played Quake up until Quake 3 Arena. It's old now, time to move on folks. What makes CS more modern than Quake? Silly question. Iron sights? You are looking for the less competitive shooters (aka Battlefield or Call of Duty.) Counter-Strike can be considered old school because it requires more skill to play than most games. Same with Quake Live, which requires twitch aiming skills. Movement and positioning is so much more important in CS than an arena shooter. Look at the map design in Counter-Strike, it actually supports positioning a ton more than arena shooters. Movement affects you recoil greatly. Recoil isn't even in most arena shooters. It's not about deathmatch and bunny hopping from kill to kill, that gameplay got old decades ago. Anyway, this is a really long conversation I remember having in the year 2000 trying to convince all the stubborn dinosaurs to play newer games, yet they still believe arena shooters require the most skill to play.Quake and arena shooters like it are very 1990's bro. Twitch shooting is very skillful, but so is movement and positioning. Learn how to play a more modern game and I assure you that you will enjoy it, maybe even more than Quake live. Don't try and play CS like you're a super soldier bunny hopping all over the place anymore either, it's more modern and realistic now.[QUOTE="SKaREO"][QUOTE="Cranler"] Whats 00ish or 10ish about CS? I rarely have problems finding games in Quake live and UT 2004. Very few noobs since those games have been out so long either so its always a challenge.Cranler
What does CS have that makes it so modern? Many consider it old school with the lack of iron sites.
Please expand on movement and positioning and how they dont exist in Quake and UT.
Realism doesnt automatically equal less casual. The less damage and slower the movement the more likely noobs are able to get lucky frags. Advanced movement systems like strafejumping or wall dodging make game more complex, more to learn equals more skill required.
You assume I play no modern games. My modern games of choice at the moment are BF 3 and Gears 3. Reaching full potential in those games takes much longer than CS. Being great with a tank, jet and heli require a lot of practice.
The movement at 29 sec is harder than anything in CS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCXnh_fpPs&feature=related
Imagine a noob up against this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TKRw4R8OA&feature=fvwrel
bridge to railah ye that took me a bit to get right
ps ppl shud add me to ql if they want 2 see what tru skill is
http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/jigglywiggly
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="SKaREO"] Quake and arena shooters like it are very 1990's bro. Twitch shooting is very skillful, but so is movement and positioning. Learn how to play a more modern game and I assure you that you will enjoy it, maybe even more than Quake live. Don't try and play CS like you're a super soldier bunny hopping all over the place anymore either, it's more modern and realistic now.SKaREO
What does CS have that makes it so modern? Many consider it old school with the lack of iron sites.
Please expand on movement and positioning and how they dont exist in Quake and UT.
Realism doesnt automatically equal less casual. The less damage and slower the movement the more likely noobs are able to get lucky frags. Advanced movement systems like strafejumping or wall dodging make game more complex, more to learn equals more skill required.
You assume I play no modern games. My modern games of choice at the moment are BF 3 and Gears 3. Reaching full potential in those games takes much longer than CS. Being great with a tank, jet and heli require a lot of practice.
The movement at 29 sec is harder than anything in CS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCXnh_fpPs&feature=related
Imagine a noob up against this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TKRw4R8OA&feature=fvwrel
I played Quake up until Quake 3 Arena. It's old now, time to move on folks. What makes CS more modern than Quake? Silly question. Iron sights? You are looking for the less competitive shooters (aka Battlefield or Call of Duty.) Counter-Strike can be considered old school because it requires more skill to play than most games. Same with Quake Live, which requires twitch aiming skills. Movement and positioning is so much more important in CS than an arena shooter. Look at the map design in Counter-Strike, it actually supports positioning a ton more than arena shooters. Movement affects you recoil greatly. Recoil isn't even in most arena shooters. It's not about deathmatch and bunny hopping from kill to kill, that gameplay got old decades ago. Anyway, this is a really long conversation I remember having in the year 2000 trying to convince all the stubborn dinosaurs to play newer games, yet they still believe arena shooters require the most skill to play. Did you watch the one on one i linked. Positioning is very important there. Mastering all those different weapons, timing powerups and the trick jumps are much more difficult than dealing with recoil. CS is basically a dumbed down arena shooter as far as I'm concerned.[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="alan_carter"] Because they're very 90ish and got a very little community thesedays.SKaREOWhats 00ish or 10ish about CS? I rarely have problems finding games in Quake live and UT 2004. Very few noobs since those games have been out so long either so its always a challenge. Quake and arena shooters like it are very 1990's bro. Twitch shooting is very skillful, but so is movement and positioning. Learn how to play a more modern game and I assure you that you will enjoy it, maybe even more than Quake live. Don't try and play CS like you're a super soldier bunny hopping all over the place anymore either, it's more modern and realistic now.
quake live is way more movement heavy than cs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gIJL6lT_7Y#t=12m
same for rail
you got to find their weakness when railing from far away in a duel
do they not like long strafes or do they wait for you to re-center
you can't just twitch shot if they are strafing in a corridor
it doesn't work
movement in quake is way more important than cs
also
quake is more about tracking than twitch
here go watch some shaft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYQ832wiDbU#t=52s
ps the reason people don't play quake live
is because their actual aiming skills get exposed
Sadly I agree with the OP for once. Counter Strike is king and I think it's about time for people to accept it. We are already playing its 4th or 5th iteration of the title. If you combine the players of all the Counter Strike games, I'm sure it has more simultaneous players than any other game out there. As for GO, it's fantastic. I don't know how they've managed to keep the game feeling fresh after all these years but it's still a blast to play.KHAndAnimePopularity is the ultimate gauge of whats best. Thats how I know Justin Beiber's music is better than The Black Keys.
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Sadly I agree with the OP for once. Counter Strike is king and I think it's about time for people to accept it. We are already playing its 4th or 5th iteration of the title. If you combine the players of all the Counter Strike games, I'm sure it has more simultaneous players than any other game out there. As for GO, it's fantastic. I don't know how they've managed to keep the game feeling fresh after all these years but it's still a blast to play.CranlerPopularity is the ultimate gauge of whats best. Thats how I know Justin Beiber's music is better than The Black Keys. Call of Duty surely has more players on the console than Counter-Strike all together. Bieber fans also seem to love CoD, no coincidence here.
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Sadly I agree with the OP for once. Counter Strike is king and I think it's about time for people to accept it. We are already playing its 4th or 5th iteration of the title. If you combine the players of all the Counter Strike games, I'm sure it has more simultaneous players than any other game out there. As for GO, it's fantastic. I don't know how they've managed to keep the game feeling fresh after all these years but it's still a blast to play.CranlerPopularity is the ultimate gauge of whats best. Thats how I know Justin Beiber's music is better than The Black Keys. Well it helps when trying to find a good server (which is difficult even on many FPS games today, like BF3). Additionally, it has been around a long time. It's not just about popularity, it's about community. It has retained its community for longer than any other game, simply due to it's no-nonsense approach to online FPS gameplay.
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Sadly I agree with the OP for once. Counter Strike is king and I think it's about time for people to accept it. We are already playing its 4th or 5th iteration of the title. If you combine the players of all the Counter Strike games, I'm sure it has more simultaneous players than any other game out there. As for GO, it's fantastic. I don't know how they've managed to keep the game feeling fresh after all these years but it's still a blast to play.KHAndAnimePopularity is the ultimate gauge of whats best. Thats how I know Justin Beiber's music is better than The Black Keys. Well it helps when trying to find a good server (which is difficult even on many FPS games today, like BF3). Additionally, it has been around a long time. It's not just about popularity, it's about community. It has retained its community for longer than any other game, simply due to it's no-nonsense approach to online FPS gameplay. i wonder why very few people play tribes ascend arena then it's because people don't like getting exposed in CS you can fool around and get kills randomly in tribes ascend arena it doesn't happen if you vs people like me /flex people don't like getting pwned, it's pretty much that simple
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Sadly I agree with the OP for once. Counter Strike is king and I think it's about time for people to accept it. We are already playing its 4th or 5th iteration of the title. If you combine the players of all the Counter Strike games, I'm sure it has more simultaneous players than any other game out there. As for GO, it's fantastic. I don't know how they've managed to keep the game feeling fresh after all these years but it's still a blast to play.KHAndAnimePopularity is the ultimate gauge of whats best. Thats how I know Justin Beiber's music is better than The Black Keys. Well it helps when trying to find a good server (which is difficult even on many FPS games today, like BF3). Additionally, it has been around a long time. It's not just about popularity, it's about community. It has retained its community for longer than any other game, simply due to it's no-nonsense approach to online FPS gameplay. I spent about 5 minutes at peak time in BF 3 adding all the best server to my fav list and I have no problems finding games. What nonsense do other shooters have? Sure its not that CS came along when tons of pc gamers were getting owned in arena fps and finally found something less skill based?
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