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#1 Athawolfus
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So I have a Core 2 Duo E8400 at 3.00 ghz and I'm planning to get a new graphics card. Since the Geforce 500 series has now come out, I'm split between 400 series cards and the new ones. Are the 500 series cards that are available right now (580, 570, 560 and perhaps 550) high-end cards suitable for high-performance gaming? Or am I better off getting a GTX 480 or something?

I'm asking this especially because I'm afraid I might not get very good overall performance with a new card because my E8400 is getting old. Should this be a concern?

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What type of power supply do you have? What type of games do you like to play? I ask because these are the questions that could determine what you should do. The 500 series and 400 series have the same features (DX11 support, etc..) and are basically based off the same Fermi GPU technology, made using the 40nm process. The 500 series is a refresh/revamp of the 400 series.

A GTX 480 is a very powerful card, just about on par with a GTX 570. I don't see a reason to buy a 480 though, since a 570 usually performs plus or minus 2-3 percent of the 480, usually costs less, uses less power, and runs cooler. It's just a better overall card. The only real advantage that the 480 has is that it has slightly more VRAM and more memory bandwidth, which can help in some high resolution scenarios with high AA/AF. Between the 2, I'd pick the 570 though. It made the GTX 480 nearly obsolete at the prices that they are selling for. If you have a monster PSU and could get one for $320 or less, I'd say go for it. Otherwise, get the 570 or 560 Ti.

The GTX 560 Ti is more or less a replacement for the GTX 470 and/or the GTX 460 1GB. The beauty of the 560 is that they can almost all overclock to where they can match or nearly match a GTX 570's performance in most games, while costing much less. You lose a bit of VRAM and a bit of tessellation muscle with the GF 104/114-based card (460 and 560 Ti) versus the GF100 and 110-based monsters (470, 480, 570, 580).

In reality the best bang-for-the-buck is still to get a GTX 460 1GB and overclock it. This may not provide enough muscle for some people's needs in certain games, but for $180 to $200 it's tough to go wrong since you can surpass a GTX 470 in performance with a pretty quick OC. It sounds to me like you are shooting for more in the $340 to $400 price range, so the GTX 570 is probably better for you.

The idea is this- 580 > 570/480 > 560 > 470 > 460 (until you OC. They OC like a mother and the 1GB version can easily surpass the GTX 470 in most cases).

About your CPU- It will hold it's own in many newer games, but will hold a GTX 400/500 back in games that like multi-core CPUs. Games like Bad Company 2, SC2, and other titles that really need a nice triple or quad-core CPU to run at their best will expose the E8400, making it a bottleneck to a nice GPU like you're considering. Most E8400's overclock very well though, and can hit 3.7 to 4.1ghz without too much trouble. You will gain a good chunk of performance by going that route if you're not in a position to upgrade your CPU/mobo, etc.. now. It all depends on your budget.

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#3 Athawolfus
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Thanks for the detailed response. Right now I'm not considering upgrading my CPU (both budgetwise and I think it still has some time left) but I can spend a significant amount on the GPU.

I play all kinds of games and this includes new graphics-intensive FPS games and I like to max out the settings (well, maybe except SSAO and full AA) but the thing is that my max screen resolution is 1280 x 1024 with my 19-inch monitor so I won't need the GPU firepower for resolutions higher than that. Now with your comments I'm leaning towards a GTX 570 and checking prices. Thanks.

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#4 Athawolfus
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Oh, and I'm thinking about installing the new card myself. This will be the first time I'm going to do such a thing, and I don't know much about power supply issues but I think I'm going to use the power supply they put in along with my current 8800 GTX.

Is there a possibility that it will be too much (or too low?) for a new card like GTX 570 and cause problems? Or more broadly, isn't there such a thing as the power supply letting the card run but not giving optimal performance because it's not really suitable?

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If you could post the spec of your psu or link the model than we can see if it can run. Minimum of 500w-ish, more if its a no-name brand, should be enough to power a 570. Unless you can find a 480 for dirt cheap than is not worth trouble of getting it mainly due to the stock heatsink fan being very loud.

A 6950 2gb is better value actually due to the fact than you can unlock it to a 6970( free upgrade!), but I personally like the 570 more since the cooler is pretty quiet for an upperend card.

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Oh, and I'm thinking about installing the new card myself. This will be the first time I'm going to do such a thing, and I don't know much about power supply issues but I think I'm going to use the power supply they put in along with my current 8800 GTX.

Is there a possibility that it will be too much (or too low?) for a new card like GTX 570 and cause problems? Or more broadly, isn't there such a thing as the power supply letting the card run but not giving optimal performance because it's not really suitable?

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What is the exact brand and model of your PSU? Also, do you plan on keeping that 1280x1024 monitor? If so, even a GTX 460 is overkill.

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If you don't know your PSU's specs open up the case (side panel) and there should be a sticker on it. We need total wattage but more importantly we need to know how many amps are on the +12v(s) rail. Some PSU's only have one +12v rail while others have two or more. For example, my PSU (Corsair tx750) has a single +12v rail with a total of 60 amps. Also, if you aren't planning on getting a new bigger monitor anytime soon then I think the GTX 570 will be overkill for your 1280 X 1024 resolution. I would say that a GTX 460 1GB or the GTX 560 Ti would be more than enough for that res.
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#8 Athawolfus
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Thanks. I'll open the case and post the specs of my PSU when I find my screwdriver! I think it was around 500 watts. So are there two connections for a video card, one with the motherboard and one with the main PSU unit?

More importantly, so you say that a card like a 570 is unnecessary for 1280 x 1024 and a GTX 560 will be enough even if I max out all the other graphics settings? Hmm, that's a thing to consider.

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Thanks. I'll open the case and post the specs of my PSU when I find my screwdriver! I think it was around 500 watts. So are there two connections for a video card, one with the motherboard and one with the main PSU unit?

More importantly, so you say that a card like a 570 is unnecessary for 1280 x 1024 and a GTX 560 will be enough even if I max out all the other graphics settings? Hmm, that's a thing to consider.

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A GTX 460 or AMD 6850 will be more than enough for maxing games out at that resolution.

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#10 Athawolfus
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My PSU is a Thermaltake Toughpower "Cable Management" 750W. I guess it should be able to handle any card, right?